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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 01:36 GMT
#968
On April 11 2011 10:11 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 10:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 11 2011 08:21 DarthThienAn wrote:
##Vote Pandain


also no one voting for me wtf


He posted earlier that it was just a placeholder. And there is a bandwagon in GM and since you have been real aggresive for a while maybe people just don't like you. That said, if i could have it my way i would probably have you mayor and protact pardoner, but i only have one vote and see no reason to change it right now.

I don't like him and I'm probably going to vote for him. It doesn't matter if people "like" him or not. All that matters is that town wins. Who is going to give town the best shot at that is how you should vote Not if you like him or not.
Within a day or two if I'm not dead I'll probably piss off half of you myself. I don't care. I'll do whatever it takes to win.


I didn't play Sim City as a kid. I had a stick to play with.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 02:29 GMT
#985
On April 11 2011 11:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
This thread blew up way too fast. So much spam to sift through...

Anyways, I think it's important to look at how people have reacted to the Protactinium Campaign.
Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. So, for a second, let's just assume he is, in fact, an assassin. People who want him in think that he would benefit their faction more than the opposing. So let's see how an assassin mayor would actually affect the game.

Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. Who, then, is he likely to kill? His kill priorities, as I see it, are as follows:

A) Other assassins
B) Mafia
C) Townies

Why? Well, A is obvious. He wants to win, and needs to kill the other assassins.
B and C, though, are tricky. The mayor can only die in one of 2 ways: the bodyguards are eliminated and then the mayor is vulnerable to night attacks, OR, the mayor is lynched. The bodyguards will presumably remain anonymous, so that Protactinium can protect himself. Therefore, it is unlikely they will be quickly expended.* Protactinium's biggest concern, then, is the town lynching him. Townies hold a majority vote, and if Protactinium doesn't act in a clearly pro-town way, then he will be lynched. Essentially, if he doesn't act pro-town he will lose.
Thus, an assassin mayor would benefit the town and hurt the mafia, and would be supported by townies and attacked by scum in the election.

*A situation may occur where assassins may try to kill off the bodyguards in an attempt to make Protactinium vulnerable. This is in my mind unlikely, because an assassin would have to waste kills. To be honest though, I am not entirely sure how this would affect the game as a whole. It is for this reason that I am still thinking about who to vote for. Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. Hopefully a townie can sweet talk the rest of us to voting him in, but with all the idiotic spamming and name calling going on, it's awful tough to trust anyone right now. I gotta think about this more...


this post in 2 sentences:
blablabla stuff other people already said. also i am too scared to make a decision so im gonna stall.

This post in 1 sentence.
I'm being a dick.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 02:36 GMT
#992
On April 11 2011 11:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 11:29 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2011 11:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
This thread blew up way too fast. So much spam to sift through...

Anyways, I think it's important to look at how people have reacted to the Protactinium Campaign.
Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. So, for a second, let's just assume he is, in fact, an assassin. People who want him in think that he would benefit their faction more than the opposing. So let's see how an assassin mayor would actually affect the game.

Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. Who, then, is he likely to kill? His kill priorities, as I see it, are as follows:

A) Other assassins
B) Mafia
C) Townies

Why? Well, A is obvious. He wants to win, and needs to kill the other assassins.
B and C, though, are tricky. The mayor can only die in one of 2 ways: the bodyguards are eliminated and then the mayor is vulnerable to night attacks, OR, the mayor is lynched. The bodyguards will presumably remain anonymous, so that Protactinium can protect himself. Therefore, it is unlikely they will be quickly expended.* Protactinium's biggest concern, then, is the town lynching him. Townies hold a majority vote, and if Protactinium doesn't act in a clearly pro-town way, then he will be lynched. Essentially, if he doesn't act pro-town he will lose.
Thus, an assassin mayor would benefit the town and hurt the mafia, and would be supported by townies and attacked by scum in the election.

*A situation may occur where assassins may try to kill off the bodyguards in an attempt to make Protactinium vulnerable. This is in my mind unlikely, because an assassin would have to waste kills. To be honest though, I am not entirely sure how this would affect the game as a whole. It is for this reason that I am still thinking about who to vote for. Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. Hopefully a townie can sweet talk the rest of us to voting him in, but with all the idiotic spamming and name calling going on, it's awful tough to trust anyone right now. I gotta think about this more...


this post in 2 sentences:
blablabla stuff other people already said. also i am too scared to make a decision so im gonna stall.

This post in 1 sentence.
I'm being a dick.

this post in 1 second:
i haven't done anything this whole game but criticize DrH and im old

I've been critical of your dick swinging play style. Not the content of it. If I want to hear 13 year old punks call everybody an idiot I'll start playing on Battlenet again.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 02:38 GMT
#993
On April 11 2011 11:32 Lanaia wrote:
Is this Dr. H attitude his normal attitude?

Ya pretty much. DocH calls it like it is. Coag types in caps and I get warnings.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 02:44 GMT
#997
On April 11 2011 11:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On April 11 2011 11:38 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 11 2011 11:32 Lanaia wrote:
Is this Dr. H attitude his normal attitude?

Ya pretty much. DocH calls it like it is. Coag types in caps and I get warnings.

oh the wacky hijinks the three of us could get into

Prison or Disney World.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 13:09 GMT
#1054
On April 11 2011 21:18 Milkyst wrote:
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On April 11 2011 21:03 OriginalName wrote:
On April 11 2011 20:21 redFF wrote:
Finally, people listening to reason. DrH, Protact or kita, i dont care who it is, should be mayor. A day one lynch of OriginalName is a good idea. If he flips red, that means that Gmarshal is likely red, as are the other people who voted for him with little reasoning and leapt to each others defence when i called them out on it. M0nsterChef and AirbladeOrange. If original name flips red then we can also probably pin MiG because ON did a contentless analysis where he named him town. Town has to band together and vote for one of those 3.


Yo town, when I flip green lynch this dude plz kthxbye.

And that's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm voting for redFF. He wants people to be lynched, been talking alot of trash as well throughout the thread. He's also wanting to urge the townies to vote for one of these three... little bit suspicious if you ask me.

Since DocH doesn't appear to be here atm I'll pick up the slack for him.
Wtf are you smoking????? I suggest you invest an hour and begin reading from BB's OP to right here.
Then stop and reevaluate what you just posted.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 16:29 GMT
#1072
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 12 2011 01:21 Lanaia wrote:
1. Jackal58 - Very likely town from where I stand.
2. Rean - Part of me believes Rean to be the assassin based solely on his/her few posts inthread.
3. Coagulation - I am fairly certain he is town.
4. GMarshal - He is definitely town.
5. Pandain - I really have no idea what he is.
6. GGQ - Null.
7. OriginalName - Null.
8. Kenpachi - Town.
9. ilovejonn - Null
10.Mr. Wiggles - Null
11.chaoser - Probably town, but not sure.
12.Latrommi - Null
13.kevconsim - It feels like he's playing exactly how he played last game. So, I'm thinking he's scum.
14.Protactinium - Assassin
15.TranceStorm - Null
16.tnkted - I'm about 50-50 here.
17.Eiii - Assassin.
18.urashimakt - Feels town.
19.Lemonwalrus - Null.
20.Milkyst - Not memorable.
21.DropBear - Probably town
22.The_Roist - Probably nottown.
23.kitaman27 - Def town
24.Lanaia - I know I'm town.
25.jaminz - Don't recall any of this person's posts. Either has none or all or unmemorable.
26.DarthThienAn - Null. Hasn't said much.
27.DoctorHelvetica - Seems kinda town.
28.darmousseh - His posts aren't memorable to me.
29.AirbladeOrange - Seems like he's trying to be townable. He's new so it's probably less easy for him to fake that, no?
30.MetalFace - No idea
31.Barundar - Town.
32.Kavdragon - He's town.
33.redFF - Likely town
34.M0nsterChef - I don't know, but he's really not helping his case with what he's done.
35.Serejai - I can't tell if he's a troll or not. I can't tell his alignment given what he's given us.
36.Robellicose - Null.
37.Mig - Null
38.aidnai - Likely town
39.Conversion - Town
40.Tackster - Null


Well cool. We're all townies. We can call it quits guys. Scum packed their bags and left.

C'mon Lanaia. I know you are capable of calling people scum. This looks really bad pegging everybody as town or "null"

Coag and GMarshall look scummy. See it's not hard. Say it with me. Coag and GMarshall look scummy.

Or pick anybody else and try it. Calling people town and null just lets scum sit there and feel slightly belittled in their nullness.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 16:30 GMT
#1073
On April 12 2011 01:25 Lanaia wrote:
Hello guys.

It has been nice playing with you.

I have to cram 1.5 months of schoolwork into two weeks. I can't play to the extent most people would like.

As such, I'm requesting replacement.

It's been nice.

-Lanaia <3

Dammit. You're fun.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 16:57 GMT
#1080
On April 12 2011 01:54 AirbladeOrange wrote:And coagulation - I have no idea what to make of this guy. I think he's just crazy.

You have a great future in analysis. Most people take 2 or 3 games to come to that realization.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 18:06 GMT
#1108
On April 12 2011 02:41 GMarshal wrote:
As for the outrage at my medic list, I want to hear who you guys would rather have on it, thats half the point of my list.

Not outrage at all. Actually I'm a bit flattered. But I got ask also - Why Tackster? He has been absent this entire day 1 so far. He may actually be in danger of being mod killed. I'd have to go back and verify that. Dunno if he's posted since the day post or not. But he certainly hasn't posted anything noteworthy yet. I don't get it GMan. And poor Tack might get a complex if he thinks I'm bagging on him. But I'm not. I just wanna know how you can say he's medic protection worthy when he hasn't even posted yet?
And redFF. - I don't get comfy vibes from him man. I don't know what it is but he's not town like I'd want town to be. He's more like somebody else's mouthpiece. I'll give him time to grow on me but right now he makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 18:17 GMT
#1114
On April 12 2011 02:48 tnkted wrote: Jackal has been playing this game precicely the same as he has last time, with short contentless posts talking about how much he hates scum, etc, interspaced with witty play on words and condescending nicknames. He was green last time. Ironically, you started thinking he was scum immediately after arguing with him over... what exactly?

Well Twinkles you must have missed my posts regarding my support of Proact. About 5 or 6 of them.
They all probably contained - hell I don't know - 7 or 8 sentences each. Gasp. Maybe more. And if DocH really thought I was scummy he'd still have his nose so far up my ass he'd be able to see what I had for lunch. He does much the same thing I do. Throw shit against the wall and see what sticks.
That is the way Doc plays. Sometimes he goes a little over the top. As long as he's town I don't really care.

Missed ya sweetheart.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 18:28 GMT
#1120
On April 12 2011 03:17 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 03:06 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 12 2011 02:41 GMarshal wrote:
As for the outrage at my medic list, I want to hear who you guys would rather have on it, thats half the point of my list.

Not outrage at all. Actually I'm a bit flattered. But I got ask also - Why Tackster? He has been absent this entire day 1 so far. He may actually be in danger of being mod killed. I'd have to go back and verify that. Dunno if he's posted since the day post or not. But he certainly hasn't posted anything noteworthy yet. I don't get it GMan. And poor Tack might get a complex if he thinks I'm bagging on him. But I'm not. I just wanna know how you can say he's medic protection worthy when he hasn't even posted yet?
And redFF. - I don't get comfy vibes from him man. I don't know what it is but he's not town like I'd want town to be. He's more like somebody else's mouthpiece. I'll give him time to grow on me but right now he makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.


I thought Tack played a really, really solid game in Insane 2 and I'm kind of banking on him doing what he did there and showing up with a massive pro-town post before the day ends.

Is there anyone else you'd like to see included in the list? Anyone who you think is on one of the other lists who dosn't merit it?

I'll be honest with ya man. This is day 1. If you want me to put together a list of who I would like to see at endgame I can do that. Unfortunately probably half of them will be scum. You really called it though. I'm much better at this game after day 2 or 3 than I am at the beginning. But I just don't understand how you can say "Tack played well last game so I hope he does again this game"
I agree 100% with you that he played well. Hell I should be more aware of that than anybody. I got him lynched. But that doesn't mean he's town in this game. I have seen nothing from him to evaluate or analyze. Wanting him to have medic protection with the info you have either means you're naive or you know his alignment. And there is only one way you could know his alignment.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 19:07 GMT
#1130
On April 12 2011 03:32 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 03:06 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 12 2011 02:41 GMarshal wrote:
As for the outrage at my medic list, I want to hear who you guys would rather have on it, thats half the point of my list.

Not outrage at all. Actually I'm a bit flattered. But I got ask also - Why Tackster? He has been absent this entire day 1 so far. He may actually be in danger of being mod killed. I'd have to go back and verify that. Dunno if he's posted since the day post or not. But he certainly hasn't posted anything noteworthy yet. I don't get it GMan. And poor Tack might get a complex if he thinks I'm bagging on him. But I'm not. I just wanna know how you can say he's medic protection worthy when he hasn't even posted yet?
And redFF. - I don't get comfy vibes from him man. I don't know what it is but he's not town like I'd want town to be. He's more like somebody else's mouthpiece. I'll give him time to grow on me but right now he makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.


I'm just calling out people who i think are scummy and trying to catch them out on it. I'm just trying to make sure people don't vote for someone like GM just because they see a lot of seemingly well reasoned posts on how pro-town he is.

Would you rather they vote for him because of well reasoned posts on why he might be scum??????
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 19:21 GMT
#1135
On April 12 2011 04:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if protact isn't elected then i'll publicly announce the list of my assassin suspects so they can just kill eachother off quickly. otherwise i'll hold back so we can use his check at least.again i'd like to see myself as mayor, and protactinium as pardoner, I think that will ultimately be the best scenario for us.

That's the scenario I want to see.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 20:13 GMT
#1153
On April 12 2011 05:09 Lemonwalrus wrote:
##Vote: Jackal58

Placeholder so Brownbear doesn't get an ulcer.

Will be posting in a bit.

I'll vote when I'm damn good and fucking ready to vote.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 20:16 GMT
#1157
Well that seals that deal. If you think I'm voting for either a Flyers or Sabres fan you're nuts.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 23:24 GMT
#1227
On April 12 2011 07:34 Tackster wrote:
Guys listen I'm sorry to cause problems for everyone but I just haven't had the time to focus on this game. Apart from other things going on I am currently trying to quit smoking after being on 30 a day and that certainly doesn't help with the old focus. I will be back to play forum mafia when i find the time and I am sorry for wasting a space in the game. Hopefully you'll find someone that can replace me rather than lose a green altogther...

I enjoyed what little of Insane 2 I got to play and when i get back i'll be putting in some proper games. Good luck everyone!!

I quit smoking every other week. Last time I did I lynched you. What a bullshit excuse. Get your ass back in here and share the pain.
Fucking pussy.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#1238
On April 12 2011 08:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, I forgot to mention this in my post, but why's Pandain getting replaced? This will be interesting to see how his replacement acts after a fake DT claim.

Bigger question. Why did Pandain quit? If somebody replaces him I'll bet ya 20 bucks they're scum. The only reason Pandain would quit is because his scum team told him to. The guy is shameless. If he was town he'd Barney Fife his was as long as he could. Somebody told him to gtfo.


Serejai is an intentional idiot. I hate people like him.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 12 2011 00:12 GMT
#1254
On April 12 2011 08:52 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 08:40 GMarshal wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:37 redFF wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:35 GMarshal wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:34 redFF wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:24 GMarshal wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:20 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
[quote]
Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?

im killing kavdragon im saying the mafia is probably going to hit him for that


But now we know that if he doesnt die he could be mafia. -.-


WIFOM not even worth considering

On April 12 2011 08:20 GMarshal wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:16 GMarshal wrote:
[quote]

Because he is being a fucking moron and acting anti-town. Useless spam posts pleading ignorance and trying to be "funny" are not helping the town find scum, or really do anything else, in my opinion he is either scum or a bored townie that it trolling, either way he's better dead than alive.

another thing i will do as mayor

i will never kill/vote for someone i believe to be town/assassin aligned just because they are "bad"


I'm not voting for him because he is "bad" Im voting for him because he is anti-town and not even trying to hide it. Find me a single helpful post of his, there are none. He isn't even trying and is distracting the town.


But do you believe that he is mafia? I don't so I have bigger fish to fry. Scum like kavdragon or barundar for instance


I think I'm 60% certain he is mafia, I don't think any town player in his right mind would play like that. Kav has been posting large contentless posts I grant you that, but I'm not sure he is scum, again I'll be interested to see his flip, but I like lynching the troll better.

Also this is the first time I've seen you mention Barundar, whats your case against him if you dont mind explaining?


Yes let's keep shifting attention to the guy with 2 troll posts instead of contributing/discussing something worthwhile.


Fine, what do you want to discuss kind sir? I posted a list yet it was apparently not worth discussing. I tried to make arguments and pressure, but that too was deemed "bad". So tell me, what do you want to talk about? I'm game to discuss anything.


Well, a name on who you are lynching day 1 would be nice, which lurker/inactive?


I'm thinking our troll here might be a good lynch, other than him ON and Monster seem to have drawn enough attention as lurkers to make me suspect them, especially the Monster ninja vote.

It won't be someone who is going to be modkilled though, I'll leave them to die by the banhammer

I disagree with lynching serejai, yes he did derail the thread a bit, but consider this.

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On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?


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On April 12 2011 08:20 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:15 kevconsim wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?

bye

Why would you kill him. What if he is a medic or a dt?

im killing kavdragon im saying the mafia is probably going to hit him for that


But now we know that if he doesnt die he could be mafia. -.-


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On April 12 2011 08:23 kevconsim wrote:
hes never played before... He said that... Why would you lynch someone who has a role. We will know if he is mafia after tonight.


3 contentless/slightly idiotic posts where he tries to keep attention on the thread derailing troll.

Let's have a look at a few more posts of kevconsim
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On April 11 2011 14:08 kevconsim wrote:
has Trancestorm posted?
I guess i missed it if your posting anaylsis ill be looking forward to reading it.



Regarding the mayor race
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On April 10 2011 14:11 kevconsim wrote:
I think that Gmarshal should be mayor and protact should be pardoner if he is willing to help us.

I will put my vote up later when we determine how we want to vote.


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On April 11 2011 07:49 kevconsim wrote:
I think i have decided that the safe bet is too put gmarshal in their.

##Vote Gmarshal for mayor


There were his 2 posts before he voted Gmarshal.

Finally

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On April 10 2011 09:33 kevconsim wrote:
honestly i only post when i have something to say...



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On April 11 2011 11:12 kevconsim wrote:
ty wiggles


Fos KEvconsim

Wow. You really are red FFS
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 12 2011 00:43 GMT
#1271
I'm leaving shortly. I voted for Protactinium
Not because I want him as mayor but because I want him as Pardoner.
I am hoping 3 or 4 of you will switch your votes from GMan to Proact to make him the pardoner.
Life can only kill you once.
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