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On April 12 2011 08:27 Kavdragon wrote:Kenpachi Kenpachi has ten posts, non of which say anything, all but two are not even related to the game. This looks like scum to me, but Kenpachi looks like scum ususally. I know others have good meta on him, so I'd like to hear from you. He's not putting any effort into looking like town, and he's not acting like a frustrated townie. Based on what I know, he's following his usual town play. Useless. (That's not even being harsh. Take a look at his posts.) ilovejonn Ilovejonn has only five posts, one of which is somewhat informative: Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 00:11 ilovejonn wrote:
If I appear to be inactive, that's because I am really sick atm. I've read 10+ pages and right now GMarshal and Protactinium are top of my list for mayor. However as there is no voting thread yet for whatever reason :S, I'm going to stay in bed and rest until the thread is up and my voting is required. I also like Protact's posts a lot more than GM. Yes, GM is easy to read, but I agree with Protact that he isn't superbly great at analysis. Protact's each and every post was filled with so much content, meeting quality over quantity in my eyes, and gets to the point without beating around the bush. As a town leader (yes, I know his win-condition is not town) and an analyst, I would much more likely be in favor of Protact.
I believe even by having him alive in the early game while he still feels like siding with town, he can create a much ideal environment for the town. At least his posts motivate me to play and post better.
Also, sure if you think me being sick is an excuse, but I just wanted to get this out there in the case I really cannot post due to illness. I'm already trying my best to keep up with this thread by at least posting Day 1. This one post is town oriented. Yes, I disagree with his voting protact, but he brings new reasons for it, and they are protown reasons. Not much to make a read off of, but I would say that he looks town.
good meta on kenpachi lolololololol
i am of the firm opinion that kenpachi is so uniquely bad at mafia that attempting to analyse him is absolutely worthless. I don't even read his posts tbh i skip over them completely he could have been talking about how I am an asshole and like to wear panties and i wouldn't even know
only in a desperate lategame situation will i attempt to analyse anything he writes
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HEY GMARSHAL I LIKE YOUR EARLIER PLAN OF LYNCHING THE PARDONER ASAP WHAT DO U THINK
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On April 12 2011 08:54 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 08:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
HEY GMARSHAL I LIKE YOUR EARLIER PLAN OF LYNCHING THE PARDONER ASAP WHAT DO U THINK If it helps town go for it, I dont fear death, as long as its in the benefit of the town. Only scum are afraid to die. I don't fear death, I fear a fruitless death.
no im still lynching kavdragon
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On April 12 2011 08:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:When are the bodyguards revealed to public office?Show nested quote +We do NOT want any scum in the leadership positions at all as they will learn the identities of the bodyguards. I forgot about the BGs -_- . The point of this though, would be to lynch the pardoner NOW, right as the mayor is elected, so we wouldn't have to deal with him. Ideally, we would have a pro-town player as the pardoner, who would probably never use the pardoning ability. However, if we vote someone who could be scum in, that's not very good for town at all. Thus, my proposal that we could potentially just kill the pardoner Day 1, by voting in an agreed lynch. Honestly, I can't think of any situation where we'd really want to pardon somebody.
It's kind of a truce thing. If mafia starts killing off bodyguards then I know either
A) Pardoner is scum
or
B) One of the bodyguards is scum
and makes scumhunting considerably easier for me. Vice-versa for the pardoner as well.
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On April 12 2011 09:14 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 12 2011 08:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:When are the bodyguards revealed to public office?We do NOT want any scum in the leadership positions at all as they will learn the identities of the bodyguards. I forgot about the BGs -_- . The point of this though, would be to lynch the pardoner NOW, right as the mayor is elected, so we wouldn't have to deal with him. Ideally, we would have a pro-town player as the pardoner, who would probably never use the pardoning ability. However, if we vote someone who could be scum in, that's not very good for town at all. Thus, my proposal that we could potentially just kill the pardoner Day 1, by voting in an agreed lynch. Honestly, I can't think of any situation where we'd really want to pardon somebody. It's kind of a truce thing. If mafia starts killing off bodyguards then I know either A) Pardoner is scum or B) One of the bodyguards is scum and makes scumhunting considerably easier for me. Vice-versa for the pardoner as well. I had thought bodyguards could not be scum considering they are "random townies". I also believe they do not know each others identities. Might need some clarification on this though.
Oh, there used to be a mechanic where mafia could sub in a bodyguard. That makes life considerably easier for me then.
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Can blue players be chosen for bodyguards?
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How am I relying solely on myself to win the game? I mean obviously town discussion will influence me but I'd never adopt a policy of "mayor must vote with the majority"
The mayor is not the only player in this game. Every town aligned player must bring it on themselves to do their own analysis and help guide the discussion toward killing scum. Just because I'm not going to vote how everyone else wants me to vote does not = town relying on just me.
If you sheep me and rely only on what I say and do that's a choice YOU make. Don't make that choice. I'm making the choice not to sheep with the majority and do my own scumhunting. Everyone in this game should do the same thing.
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WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU PROPOSE SOMETHING BETTER
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On April 12 2011 10:26 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 08:15 Rean wrote:On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this? Meapak says it's okay to pm the host: [01:14] <+Meapak> FUCK [01:14] <+Meapak> redff [01:14] <+Meapak> dude [01:14] <+Meapak> I'm at 1499 posts [01:14] <+Meapak> I can't post  [01:14] <+GGQ> i keep accidentally missing my milestone posts [01:14] <+Meapak> just tell him that he can PM the hosts I'm just reading through, but it looks like everyone else missed this. Wtf? Why are you in a chat room with meapak and GGQ? I thought only mafia had circles. FOS Meapak GGQ and Rean
loloolol
yeah wait this needs to be cleared up asap
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On April 12 2011 10:26 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 08:15 Rean wrote:On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this? Meapak says it's okay to pm the host: [01:14] <+Meapak> FUCK [01:14] <+Meapak> redff [01:14] <+Meapak> dude [01:14] <+Meapak> I'm at 1499 posts [01:14] <+Meapak> I can't post [01:14] <+GGQ> i keep accidentally missing my milestone posts [01:14] <+Meapak> just tell him that he can PM the hosts I'm just reading through, but it looks like everyone else missed this. Wtf? Why are you in a chat room with meapak and GGQ? I thought only mafia had circles. FOS Meapak GGQ and Rean
meapak is cohost by the way
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On April 12 2011 10:28 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 10:26 tnkted wrote:On April 12 2011 08:15 Rean wrote:On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this? Meapak says it's okay to pm the host: [01:14] <+Meapak> FUCK [01:14] <+Meapak> redff [01:14] <+Meapak> dude [01:14] <+Meapak> I'm at 1499 posts [01:14] <+Meapak> I can't post [01:14] <+GGQ> i keep accidentally missing my milestone posts [01:14] <+Meapak> just tell him that he can PM the hosts I'm just reading through, but it looks like everyone else missed this. Wtf? Why are you in a chat room with meapak and GGQ? I thought only mafia had circles. FOS Meapak GGQ and Rean tlmafia IRC? you know our hangout for all of tl mafia? #TLMafia IRC on quakenet. jump in, its where we banter uselessly while we wait for dayposts to come up and such ^_^
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Have you read like the last 10 pages or do you just like to yell a lot
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He's my #1 suspect besides Barundar and I haven't made a case for Barundar yet.
I'm not too set on you as town right now either. Who I lynch will depend heavily on whether or not Protactinium is pardoner.
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On April 12 2011 11:01 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 10:57 kitaman27 wrote:On April 12 2011 10:49 redFF wrote:
A dt check asked for by DrH on me would be a good idea so I don't have to explain my noobie town behaviour and can analise instead. Never trust a guy who requests a dt check. Yet another thing i don't know about. Why is this. Since somebody else requested a dt check on me i think it is fair to say that i wouldn't mind being dt checked. Correct me if i'm wrong.
cuz godfather
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On April 12 2011 11:46 OriginalName wrote:
Also notice how while he did chill out it was after KAV the guy who hes going to lynch told him too.
Why abide his request then kill him, he just wants him out of the way.
??? Because he made a good point but I still think he's mafia.
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On April 12 2011 11:49 tnkted wrote:
Switching from DrH to GM because while GMs ideas are stupid, I'd still rather have him as mayor than DrH.
##unvote DrH
##vote GMarshal
Do i rub you the wrong way that badly
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On April 12 2011 12:57 Coagulation wrote:
LOL MAFIA PROCT LAST MINUTE BANDWAGON ISNT SO LAST MINUTE ANYMORE LOLZ
Because he isn't mafia probably. Mafia has no real incentive, I don't think they want to see him as pardoner. His check could be really troublesome.
I find it amusing that people think I'm scum simply because I pulled ahead after rationalizing my posting and making good points. So if the later switches from GMarshal to me scummy, aren't late switches from me to GMarshal scummy?
Oh it isn't scummy. It's all WIFOM. People change their minds, peoples idea of best candidate will change. Let's focus scumhunting on how we actually catch scum:
1. Posting behavior
2. lynching scum -> hindsight analysis
Please and thank you.
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On April 12 2011 13:26 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Mafia cannot be assassins
Mafia will not kill each other
an assassin mayors best play will be to try and direct lynches towards townies
He wants all 8 mafia shooting into the town as long as possible
he wants townies (some of which are his enemies) to die as quickly as possible
voting a known assassin into mayor will help scum
please point out a flaw in this logic if you can find one
It doesn't really matter what he wants because we have the upper hand. He has to direct his hits and his check the way we want it, or he gets lynched. That is what he trades in return for protection which gives him a huge leg up in this assassin game. Considering I am already pretty sure of who at least one other assassin is, someone as meticulous as Protactinium should be able to figure it out as well.
My wager, if he gets pardoner, is he must use his check ASAP in a manner we agree upon. He has agreed to use his powers to serve the town.
I would say who I think the other assassins are, but I don't want protactinium to win too quickly, if he wins that is.
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By the way I've looked through posts. Kavdragon has exactly 1 post that makes me think he might not be scum. I realize if I lynch him, was wrong, and he flips green, there will be a major shitstorm and mafia will probably mislead town into lynching me. Then we have 2 wasted lynches in a row, getting rid of two good town players, and town is fucked.
I will be lynching Barundar if elected. He is my #2 suspect and he has never shown any ability to be a town power player.
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