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Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 31 2011 20:21 GMT
#3569
On April 01 2011 05:19 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 04:31 Lanaia wrote:
Is Pandain a legit bot or is it a person pretending to be one?
If so, all the images are killing my comp.
Also I don't think insanious is black like this guy is implying.

Pandain is no longer a bot. He is replacing RoL


Thank you, I was very confused and his speech reminded me a lot of you so I needed that information.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 31 2011 21:13 GMT
#3580
Bum, CubEdIn, can you cofirm him?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 31 2011 21:13 GMT
#3581
Oh wait. He's not even with them.
He's with other people.
WTF.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 31 2011 22:58 GMT
#3599
On April 01 2011 07:50 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 16:24 Lanaia wrote:
On March 31 2011 14:23 Kenpachi wrote:
god damn it. was Grok really Blue? (no im not the assassin)
/slit


Part of me thinks you are. You saw how you claimed BG earlier. We all saw.
Well, at least I did. Well, technically, you claimed you were a bodybag... bodybags are things in which dead bodies go in so I'm assuming that's not it. At the very least, you were trying to draw a kill, no?

On March 31 2011 14:53 Kenpachi wrote:
On March 31 2011 14:49 orgolove wrote:
Ugh. I apologize about my inactivity. What the hell just happened? Am I playing the same game? Did the mods troll us and bring up an old thread?

Arena? Assassin?

I can't make sense of this game.

Did the "king" game mechanic come from that assassin mafia game? If that is so, then the assassin just lost his win condition since he only had one shot, and he blew it. -_-

I told you that tackster's posts were very pro-town. It was coagulation (is it a bot now?) and Jackal's insistence that led me to vote for him. I was too late to see the vote changes at the last minute.

Do we have a lynch? Can we get lemonwalrus during daylight?

wtf i never noticed that you were in this game



That is probably because neither of you were superactive this far into the game.

@orgolove, which game of this is it that you speak of? Was it called assassin or what?

what the fuck are you talking about.



This is what I'm talking about:
On March 29 2011 06:29 Kenpachi wrote:
im always around to be analyzed. faithful bodybag Kenpachi



and this:

On March 29 2011 06:36 Kenpachi wrote:
ionno i counter analyze cause i dunno where to start
faithful attacking bodybag Kenpachi


I assumed those were BG softclaims/hints/crumbs.

That is what I am talking about.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 31 2011 22:59 GMT
#3600
It was night 1 that Coag's talking about.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 31 2011 23:14 GMT
#3603
On April 01 2011 08:10 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 07:58 Lanaia wrote:
On April 01 2011 07:50 Kenpachi wrote:
On March 31 2011 16:24 Lanaia wrote:
On March 31 2011 14:23 Kenpachi wrote:
god damn it. was Grok really Blue? (no im not the assassin)
/slit


Part of me thinks you are. You saw how you claimed BG earlier. We all saw.
Well, at least I did. Well, technically, you claimed you were a bodybag... bodybags are things in which dead bodies go in so I'm assuming that's not it. At the very least, you were trying to draw a kill, no?

On March 31 2011 14:53 Kenpachi wrote:
On March 31 2011 14:49 orgolove wrote:
Ugh. I apologize about my inactivity. What the hell just happened? Am I playing the same game? Did the mods troll us and bring up an old thread?

Arena? Assassin?

I can't make sense of this game.

Did the "king" game mechanic come from that assassin mafia game? If that is so, then the assassin just lost his win condition since he only had one shot, and he blew it. -_-

I told you that tackster's posts were very pro-town. It was coagulation (is it a bot now?) and Jackal's insistence that led me to vote for him. I was too late to see the vote changes at the last minute.

Do we have a lynch? Can we get lemonwalrus during daylight?

wtf i never noticed that you were in this game



That is probably because neither of you were superactive this far into the game.

@orgolove, which game of this is it that you speak of? Was it called assassin or what?

what the fuck are you talking about.



This is what I'm talking about:
On March 29 2011 06:29 Kenpachi wrote:
im always around to be analyzed. faithful bodybag Kenpachi



and this:

On March 29 2011 06:36 Kenpachi wrote:
ionno i counter analyze cause i dunno where to start
faithful attacking bodybag Kenpachi


I assumed those were BG softclaims/hints/crumbs.

That is what I am talking about.

no im just referencing my uselessness as town.


Maybe you should start being less useless then.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 01 2011 04:22 GMT
#3609
Okay guys, we need to get our butts in gear.

Everyone: Who is scum? Who is town? Do you have any reasons?

Lurkers: Come and say hi and talk to us. We miss you. Tell us what you think of the game you're barely participating in.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 01 2011 15:29 GMT
#3634
Are we doing that claim 5/10/15/20/25 for everyone or no?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 01 2011 15:29 GMT
#3635
Also, I'll post a lot more once I come back from the dentist, I promise.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 01 2011 17:26 GMT
#3639
On April 02 2011 02:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
We should also consider that the arena can work like a lynch for us too if we can get two "confirmed" townies in there. Then, we all vote on who we'd like to enter the arena and the two townies can both submit the same name, and kill him the next day in the arena. The only problem is we'd have to be careful to only voting for people we have a strong scum read on, because once you get three townies in there, one of them HAS to die, or at least that's how I think the rules read. But yes, we can use that for a town directed second kill if we need to, and if we can trust that two of the people already in the arena are townies and will be willing to listen, so they don't submit other names.


I kind of like that idea a lot.
It could work well for us.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 01 2011 18:39 GMT
#3644
On April 02 2011 03:09 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 02:26 Lanaia wrote:
On April 02 2011 02:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
We should also consider that the arena can work like a lynch for us too if we can get two "confirmed" townies in there. Then, we all vote on who we'd like to enter the arena and the two townies can both submit the same name, and kill him the next day in the arena. The only problem is we'd have to be careful to only voting for people we have a strong scum read on, because once you get three townies in there, one of them HAS to die, or at least that's how I think the rules read. But yes, we can use that for a town directed second kill if we need to, and if we can trust that two of the people already in the arena are townies and will be willing to listen, so they don't submit other names.


I kind of like that idea a lot.
It could work well for us.


You didnt say that when I suggested it earlier!


I'm sorry. I must have missed it!
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 02 2011 00:32 GMT
#3662
On April 02 2011 08:24 Tackster wrote:
[spectral voice] Stop talking to them, they think we're dead anyways. Tee hee [/spectral voice]



That better not be a hint I smell!

Also, analysis(es) coming soon.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 02 2011 04:12 GMT
#3697
Sorry, I couldn't decide whom to make an analysis on and all my dice rolls on the topic didn't appear to work that well (ie EVERY SINGLE TIME I HIT A DEAD PERSON).

My top 5 Mafia/Third Party reads are as follows (in no particular order, but top 5 for sure):

i. Amber[Light]
ii. orgolove
iii. beneather's slot (now a bot?)
iv. kevconsim
v. kenpachi
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 02 2011 04:19 GMT
#3700
For me, it's really more of a gutread on orgolove. I'm sorry that's all I've got for you guys. The lurking is probably part of it.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 02 2011 04:29 GMT
#3703
On April 02 2011 13:24 tnkted wrote:
Blues, could you give us your reads? if you guys die we're gonna need some vet advice. :/

I thought they already did? Or do you mean like who do they think is town, etc etc?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 02 2011 04:51 GMT
#3706
On April 02 2011 13:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Coag and tnkted could you please give me reasons why I'm scum? I've done waaay more to help the town than either of you. Coag all you've done is prolonged the item game with your failed reads and tnkted prevented us from killing lemonwalrus earlier. I have a feeling both of you are town and I wouldn't OMGUS you guys even if I wasn't sure but I would still like some actual reasons instead of just lists.

btw Lanaia I'm going to take a look at you. Your several posts haven't made me feel to good especially this one:
Show nested quote +
Sorry, I couldn't decide whom to make an analysis on and all my dice rolls on the topic didn't appear to work that well (ie EVERY SINGLE TIME I HIT A DEAD PERSON).

My top 5 Mafia/Third Party reads are as follows (in no particular order, but top 5 for sure):

i. Amber[Light]
ii. orgolove
iii. beneather's slot (now a bot?)
iv. kevconsim
v. kenpachi



This just feels off, I'll take a closer look at you now.

People apparently passed over it but ilovejonn claimed hatter. Assuming he's telling the truth (no reason for him to lie) I wanna know what we all think about killing him with the town gun. No need to claim if you have it but what does everyone think about that? Someone was talking about using the gun as a town lynch and I see this as an excellent oppertunity. ILJ placed his bombs on two great targets imo and if the gun person kills him now then we don't have to waste a lynch on him tomorrow.



It said 'great post"
He was joking.
It was April Fool's day.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 02 2011 04:52 GMT
#3707
On April 02 2011 13:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
btw Lanaia I'm going to take a look at you. Your several posts haven't made me feel to good especially this one:
Show nested quote +
Sorry, I couldn't decide whom to make an analysis on and all my dice rolls on the topic didn't appear to work that well (ie EVERY SINGLE TIME I HIT A DEAD PERSON).

My top 5 Mafia/Third Party reads are as follows (in no particular order, but top 5 for sure):

i. Amber[Light]
ii. orgolove
iii. beneather's slot (now a bot?)
iv. kevconsim
v. kenpachi



This just feels off, I'll take a closer look at you now.


May I ask why it feels off? Maybe my reads are wrong.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 02 2011 06:10 GMT
#3711
On April 02 2011 13:51 Lanaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 13:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Coag and tnkted could you please give me reasons why I'm scum? I've done waaay more to help the town than either of you. Coag all you've done is prolonged the item game with your failed reads and tnkted prevented us from killing lemonwalrus earlier. I have a feeling both of you are town and I wouldn't OMGUS you guys even if I wasn't sure but I would still like some actual reasons instead of just lists.

btw Lanaia I'm going to take a look at you. Your several posts haven't made me feel to good especially this one:
Sorry, I couldn't decide whom to make an analysis on and all my dice rolls on the topic didn't appear to work that well (ie EVERY SINGLE TIME I HIT A DEAD PERSON).

My top 5 Mafia/Third Party reads are as follows (in no particular order, but top 5 for sure):

i. Amber[Light]
ii. orgolove
iii. beneather's slot (now a bot?)
iv. kevconsim
v. kenpachi



This just feels off, I'll take a closer look at you now.

People apparently passed over it but ilovejonn claimed hatter. Assuming he's telling the truth (no reason for him to lie) I wanna know what we all think about killing him with the town gun. No need to claim if you have it but what does everyone think about that? Someone was talking about using the gun as a town lynch and I see this as an excellent oppertunity. ILJ placed his bombs on two great targets imo and if the gun person kills him now then we don't have to waste a lynch on him tomorrow.



It said 'great post"
He was joking.
It was April Fool's day.


Ermmmm
I did mean to say Apr. Fool.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 02 2011 07:25 GMT
#3718
You want reasons.
I'll give you them, then.
I'm trying to find a way to isolate a specific user’s posts (impossible, I know).

Without further ado, here are my reasons!

Amber[LighT]:
+ Show Spoiler +
i. Amber[Light] - This week, this person has had a total of 18 posts. All of those posts were in this game (both threads), it appears. He also only has 18 posts in this thread (including pre-game convo). Post quality wasn't very... helpful until recently:

On March 27 2011 00:40 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I think it should be up to the item game players to battle it out amongst each other in the thread. It's harder for the other 20+ players to just jump in and start throwing punches.
[...]
We should be focusing on other things like finding scummy players within the thread.


The first part of this quote makes less sense to me now that I've reread the thread. Honestly, people not involved in the IG were easily able to "throw punches." In fact, most people did it, or at least attempted to.

The second part is something I agree with. However, he never went back to us and made reads or tried to find scum. I mean, it's kind of hard to find scum if you're not posting more than approximately once every 10 pages.
Example:
On March 30 2011 06:07 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 05:43 tnkted wrote:
Sorry for spamming, I'm done now.

Lets look at the evidence against Tackster for a minute. What exactly is it? He was accused by Coag and Jackal of being mafia before night 1 even happened because...? anyone remember why?

Then on day 2, after GM etc died a plausible explanation for why Tackster was mafia suddenly emerged. Ironically, it came from, again, Coag and Jackal.

Lemon meanwhile contentedly watched the proceedings from the sidelines. Why didn't he defend Tackster? I mean, somebody just tallied up the votes, and absolutely none of them was any objective analysis of Tackster's play.

Hypothesis:
A new player will often tend to be more paranoid than an older player because the new player doesn't know what sort of behaviors are commonly trustable and which aren't. This is why you see me pointing FOS's at everybody who blinks twice; I don't know who is playing me for a fool.

Lemon didn't do that at all. He happily accepted Jackal and Coag's plan.

I am also considering switching my vote, although now IDK whether its between Jackal or Lemon.


FOS Jackal or Coag and see what players become the most paranoid.

Honestly Deconduo can you really blame me for the hardcore lurking? Excessive posts are extremely excessive. There's clearly a bunch of nooby mafia players in this game but the spam fest continues and continues. This is overwhelming. Remember guys less is more and this isn't a quantity battle. The game is not to see who screams the loudest.

I think the item game has really added a mind-fuck mechanic to this game that has got people going bonkers looking for one mafia member. I'm actually hoping that by tomorrow the item game is pretty much a thing of the past. I also realize that the only way to have a townie win is to get rid of the mafioso in the group.

Tack seems to be the best target, but don't forget.....When this item game is over, the mafia player in that game knows he is probably outted and more or less dead anyway. Would he even bother to put up a fight? Does an item game victory guarantee the mafia enough to salvage 1 life? Is tack just allowing himself to sink? I mean yah he's trying to keep himself alive but no one is really going towards his aid anyway.

If the town consensus is to go ahead and lynch Tack then I'll vote that way. He's either been abandoned by his own team or he's alone already and no one wants to really stick out their neck for him.


It probably wasn't best for Amber to FOS Coag. Jackal wouldn't've been too bad at the time.
I know that, well, 186 pages of content is a lot, but still... 18 posts? That's it? You really need a lot more in the way of postings.
ALSO, Amber has been repeatedly getting people mixed up [See: Annul and GMarshal]. I know that that alone isn't a scum tell, but I feel town would be more considerate in this manner as to know for sure who was what within their own faction, no? It could change reads, I'm sure.



orgolove:
+ Show Spoiler +
ii. orgolove – Yes, he’s got more than the 18 posts Amber has (he’s got 24), but they were more concentrated during the beginning stages of the game I felt (read: mostly when we were electing and lynching Tack). He also got several bits of information wrong.
On March 28 2011 14:30 orgolove wrote:
I'm going off of last reasonable information I remember. I have not yet had a chance to read over the other 50 pages of posts, but still want to contribute.

I'm just bringing into discussion the fact that he so strongly supported the clear blue even before most of the town was for him, and further made a lot of high information posts - all pretty strong contra-indicators of scum.

I see a bandwagon forming so easily without too much opposition, and my innate sense from being tricked so many times before makes me believe that we might be led by the nose without even realizing it.

Jackal's accusations may just be a sign of his frustration at being labeled anti-town despite his efforts that he put in the first days of this game. Hell, I sympathize with him a lot - in my first game I tried to set up a giant spreadsheet in a game with 40 people, and got nothing but grief at the hands of a lot of players, which certainly made me really frustrated.


Would a red or a black fight so hard and spend so much time in his first game to fight for a confirmed mason to be in the position of a mayor?


As town, it is typically wiser to have the correct and up-to-date information on any game-related topic, is it not? I know, it can be hard to have time, but I find it unneeded to type up a moderately long post before reading and having absolutely correct information in relation to the current flow of the game.

Orgolove, may I ask, what did you want to include in that spreadsheet in your other game?

Now, he’s apologizing for his lack of activity and he’s just as confused about the new mechanics as the rest of us. In fact, his last two posts both apologized for inactivity. I know that in and of itself isn’t necessarily a scum tell, but as people have said about people, excuses could mean scum.


Beneather's slot:
+ Show Spoiler +
iii. beneather's slot (now a bot?) - He had literally seven posts during the game. Maybe the search function failed me, but I can’t see any more than that. Either he just didn’t give a damn about the game or he was scum. Or possibly both.


kevconsim:
+ Show Spoiler +
iv. kevconsim – This is his most recent post:
On April 02 2011 15:09 kevconsim wrote:
been really busy im gonna read through the last 40 pages.


The vast majority of kevconsim’s posts have been short and pointless, just like the one above. He won’t give any analysis or any info without first being asked to. He’s been saying that he has to read and reread pages and gives us very little information through reading him language or through hearing his thoughts. I’ve thought he was scum for the majority of the game. I can’t see that changing anytime soon.


kenpachi
+ Show Spoiler +
v. kenpachi - repeatedly called himself useless and then didn't try to rectify that.

Just like kevconsim, a lot of his posts have been short and pointless.

On March 31 2011 14:23 Kenpachi wrote:
god damn it. was Grok really Blue? (no im not the assassin)
/slit


The fact he even bothered to say that he isn’t the assassin kinda bothers me. I didn’t think of him as an assassin beforehand, but now it’s definitely implanted in my mind that it is a legitimate possibility. I’m having a hard time finding a post that is really worth analyzing. His analysis on iGrok in the very beginning wasn’t very great but that might be because it was early on.

In addition:
On March 26 2011 07:36 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 07:34 Rean wrote:
On March 26 2011 07:07 Kenpachi wrote:
does anyone have thoughts on my first analysis in like 5 mafia games? :S


your analysis was mostly bullshit, you quoted things like spam posts for no real reason, and when you quoted the mod question i just facepalmed. I mean, maybe he asked the question because he wants to know the answer?

Please make your next analysis somewhat higher quality.

As for iGrok being scum: he's definitely one to keep a eye on, strange behavior so far, try's to appear active but has contributed next to nothing to actual analysis.

Why is he asking the question when he isnt even playing in the item game? i was looking for the reason but didnt see it. came out of the blue.


Asking the mod a question doesn’t make someone scum and it doesn’t make someone town. It just makes them curious or in need of information.


Unless the search function is screwing with me, my numbers should be accurate.

If my reasoning isn't good enough or you want more, tell me.

@LSB When a player is modkilled and replaced with a bot, do we no longer have to worry about them or are we capable of lynching/killing them? Will the bot speak?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 02 2011 07:29 GMT
#3719
Ugh, orgolove's last post is making me rethink how I feel.
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