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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 08 2011 12:20 GMT
#5261
Didn't read the game but...did Kavdragon live to the end?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
April 08 2011 12:40 GMT
#5262
@ dec: you really needed to chill out, I was bulletproof DT, there was no way blacks would win without additional KPs. And you would never get hanged by town.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 08 2011 12:48 GMT
#5263
On April 08 2011 21:40 CubEdIn wrote:
@ dec: you really needed to chill out, I was bulletproof DT, there was no way blacks would win without additional KPs. And you would never get hanged by town.


It was mostly an act, but I was a bit worried that your plan wouldn't work ( and it didn't -_-)
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 13:31:12
April 08 2011 13:28 GMT
#5264
No plan would've worked under the circumstances, unless we'd have checked kav when the RPGs hit, and there was no apparent reason for that.

From the town's point of view there was no reason to hit one guy over the other. It was all about luck with the DT checks.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 08 2011 13:30 GMT
#5265
Lynching Kav was the only way out.
Life can only kill you once.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 08 2011 13:53 GMT
#5266
On April 08 2011 21:20 Ace wrote:
Didn't read the game but...did Kavdragon live to the end?

Yep, wiggles and ON threw themselves onto the lynch to save Kavdragon, allowing them to win the king game
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
April 08 2011 14:50 GMT
#5267
It just hit me. We SHOULD have shot Lanaia during the night.

Damn my kindness!
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 08 2011 16:24 GMT
#5268
On April 08 2011 22:53 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 21:20 Ace wrote:
Didn't read the game but...did Kavdragon live to the end?

Yep, wiggles and ON threw themselves onto the lynch to save Kavdragon, allowing them to win the king game


hahahahaha amazing!

He PM'd me asking for advice to live through the lynch but since I had no idea what was going on (except RoL ragequiting) I was of no real use.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
April 08 2011 16:51 GMT
#5269
I claim full responsibility for kav winning. If it weren't for my overbearing negativity to him irl, he never would have risen to the challenge and pulled this game out.
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
April 08 2011 16:52 GMT
#5270
you can thank me later kav
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 08 2011 17:19 GMT
#5271
hate disdain, anger.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 18:59:59
April 08 2011 18:58 GMT
#5272
On April 09 2011 01:51 aidnai wrote:
I claim full responsibility for kav winning. If it weren't for my overbearing negativity to him irl, he never would have risen to the challenge and pulled this game out.


You have no idea how true this is. Everytime I tried really hard to do something it was because he was taunting me so much at the time. When i was about to get lynched, he got REALLY bad, and that's when i put the most effort into making sure he would be wrong.

Also, you were wrong about everything, so take that, sucker.


On April 09 2011 01:24 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 22:53 LSB wrote:
On April 08 2011 21:20 Ace wrote:
Didn't read the game but...did Kavdragon live to the end?

Yep, wiggles and ON threw themselves onto the lynch to save Kavdragon, allowing them to win the king game


hahahahaha amazing!

He PM'd me asking for advice to live through the lynch but since I had no idea what was going on (except RoL ragequiting) I was of no real use.


You were more help that you think. I was planning on just causing chaos, and then you were like "Well, if you can pull of a roleclaim you might be able to live through it" and I was like..."Wut? Live?" Then I tried to actually survive, instead of just make people doubt everything they knew.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
April 08 2011 20:01 GMT
#5273
On a sadder note, to the mafia QQ'ing about LSB lying to them:

First of all, you are fools if you think you are the only ones who were lied to. I asked in no uncertain terms "Can a bomb + KP kill me? Can two bombs kill me?" and he told me NO. K? I got lied to a lot also, and I had a ton of plans that went wrong because I didn't ask the right question.

This is the way that LSB works. He will answer your question in a way that doesn't give you new information. It's totally fair, and I wouldn't have it any other way. He's not going to baby you and tell you the possible outcome of EVERY situation. If you had thought of the possibility that Tnkted busses himself, then you should have asked him ABOUT THAT SITUATION.

I don't know about the town, but I'll bet they had similar experiances, and do you see any of us QQ'ing and raging in the thread? No. "But green/black actually had a chance to win..." I call BS on that. You had just as much a chance as any of us. The reason we did better was because we didn't give up when one of our plans went wrong. Blacks had their ONE KP role blocked when we finally had a shot at the king, Kenpachi's bomb didn't kill me, ilovejohn didn't kill Wiggles, the list goes on and on.

LSB put in a ridiculous amount of effort into setting this thing up, and you give him NO credit for that. Insane is called insane for a reason: EVERYTHING is OP! It's about who can use their OP the most effectivly, about who can get their hands on as much as they can, and who can get away with the most dangerous risks. If you wanted to play a normal balanced game, play a NORMAL game.

LSB was obviously concerned that the game not be badly unbalanced so he checked with vets on more than one occasion to make sure he was in the right. You give him no credit for that either.

I could argue any point made mafia has made so far, but it all comes down to learning that shit happens, so deal with it. Don't go QQ and blame everyone else about it.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 08 2011 12:38 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I'll never play in an LSB game again. Sorry dude you could have corrected your mistake but instead acted like it was our fault.

There were too many mechanics.

Um. Yes, it's INSANE mafia. This is the core essence of Insane. If you don't like it, don't play.

Black market was broken for third party.

Blacks had to sell things that got them killed, you guys had to sell things that protected your enemies. Since you town/mafia already have the numbers advantage, anything that can kill us is a REALLY bad thing.

Blacks had no powers they could buy/sell (like votes or drugs)

If black market was bought out(by red/blue) , half of the Black team would be revealed, leaving only ONE unrevealed member after the IG. We had a greater burden to win it.

Both Reds and Blues had the mission to kill two blacks in order to win the black market. Our mission was to kill the blues, one of which was protected by two hidden bodyguards.

HOW WAS THIS EASIER FOR BLACK?


Blues cheated and got slapped on the wrist twice.

They broke the rules given by the BM OP, and for it they were punished EXACTLY as it was detailed that they should be IN THE OP. "Slapped on the wrist"? No. Dealt with appropriately.

Coagulation is the worst mafia player ever. Of all the people that should pat themselves on the back for a job well done he should be the last. The game was fucked from nearly Day 3. Nothing you did benefited the town. You caused the town demise.

QQ some moar. I lost almost all respect I had for you as a player, and that's actually saying a lot. Coag has amazing scumdar. No one is 100% all the time. The only shortcoming he has is his inability/unwillingness to make convincing arguments.

GL to everyone in BB's game

And just wanted to add something else.

WTF was the deal with the arena? First you put Pandain in. Then replace him with RoL so a mafia is in it. You endangered a key mafia role by just throwing him in there, and then just gave up. If Pandain wasn't going to be active just give me or orgo the ability to use.

I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 08 2011 20:14 GMT
#5274
thanks for the support kav

BTW the whole point of insane mafia is to watch how hilarious and unexpectedly crazy shit can get.
This isnt the Olympics of mafia no ones going home with a fucking gold medal.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
April 08 2011 20:19 GMT
#5275
Since I see everyone saying that black had it so bad on the BM: Blue's objective was to kill the reds, not the blacks.

Blues had to kill reds, reds had to kill blacks and blacks had to kill blues.
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
April 08 2011 20:29 GMT
#5276
On April 09 2011 05:19 Rean wrote:
Since I see everyone saying that black had it so bad on the BM: Blue's objective was to kill the reds, not the blacks.

Blues had to kill reds, reds had to kill blacks and blacks had to kill blues.


My bad. I miss read the PMs. People were saying that BM was black favored btw.

So scratch that point off my list of why it was not black favored.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 08 2011 21:16 GMT
#5277
On April 09 2011 05:01 Kavdragon wrote:

LSB put in a ridiculous amount of effort into setting this thing up, and you give him NO credit for that. Insane is called insane for a reason: EVERYTHING is OP! It's about who can use their OP the most effectivly, about who can get their hands on as much as they can, and who can get away with the most dangerous risks. If you wanted to play a normal balanced game, play a NORMAL game.

Speaking of risks I would really like to thank Bum for not lynching me on day 1.
Life can only kill you once.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 08 2011 21:24 GMT
#5278
Kav, your wrong. Will yell more when I get home. But making decisions on the fly based off who PMed you first is obviously not well thought out. As Amber pointed out, there is a difference between insane and retarded. Retarded is eventually just allowing the bus driver to bus himself because "Well, why the fuck not?" mentality.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 08 2011 21:28 GMT
#5279
To further prove that he just decided things on a whim, look at the pandain situation. He entered pandain into the arena when he wasn't playing, fine whatever. Weird as fuck mechanic, what's new with that? But then he subs pandain out with a mafia member. How can that strike you as logical at all. If it somehow was balanced, or not retarded to introduce pandain into the game with the arena, how is it balanced to all of a sudden give him a mafia role and sub him out. That shrieks of poor decision making. The thing that drives me crazy about this though is he defends it saying we were retarded for how we acted and not questioning shit enough, and won't just admit he fucked up.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 22:05:09
April 08 2011 22:02 GMT
#5280
Let's argue over IM so we don't spam the thread.

Edit: Make that PM. I doubt I'll be on much this weekend, and I don't want to look like I'm running away.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
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