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On April 08 2011 11:52 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 11:50 Kavdragon wrote:
List of OP's:
Town:
Allowed to post PM's from MODs
Instantly confirmed six townies (Blues + BG's) Plus those in the item game.
Tons of BA roles (like Beneather)
Black:
BP
Red:
NOTHING (Sorry guys, you kinda were screwed)
The black market could have been won by anyone. While blacks may have had an advantage because of the BP, they also had BOTH factions trying to kill them. (Reds and Blues had to kill Black to win BM) The fact that we got away with selling out RPG's and not having them shot was a BIG fail by town. You're mistakes made us OP. No offense kav, but this is why I thought you were telling the truth in the role PM You spell "you're" instead of your a lot. And Kita never does. So I decided your PM was authentic. I didn't think you'd take bits and pieces from the real one. That was the biggest clue by which I let the vendetta against you go.
lol. Yeah, the funny thing was that the only reason that I spelled it the right way so many times was because I claimed the word "your" not "You're"
And no offence taken at any of my spelling. I'm a lazy person, and spelling isn't my forte. I deserve all the shame I garner.
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On April 08 2011 11:54 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:On April 08 2011 11:42 CubEdIn wrote:
You guys should look at the game from town's perspective. Really.
So many things went to shit in the last 2-3 days.
Insanious dies because why the fuck not. Blacks get RPGs and are able to use them.
Town still has a shot to win? No matter, blacks get 4 kps during the last night!
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I'm a sad, sad, panda. I feel that everything I did and all the time I spent was in vain.
I think I'll opt out of the other game and take a break. Cube, I understand you are frustrated, but try to think of it from another perspective. You were a mod confirmed town bulletproof detective. Rarely, will you see town given a role so powerful. Insanious did not die randomly. He was lynched by the arena game. Blacks were not given RPG's out of the blue. They won them as a result of the item game. You act as if we were conspiring against town or something. You certainly played well, but a town victory was no way near impossible. No, I get that, it's all bum's fault. But I don't get how they managed to get 4 kps in the last night. (1 on lanaia, 1 on jonn = kav's KP and then the knife, but the two on deconduo?!)
Check out my day post. Decon didn't actually die.
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On April 08 2011 11:56 CubEdIn wrote:
and Insanious did die randomly (no?) since he was confirmed town and the bot (as town) would have had no reason to vote for him. I don't know what the play was there, but it was pretty obvious that pandain was the red after the first kill (since ins was green).
Pandain got a higher score in tetris than Insanious did, so he won his vote. Pandain made him vote Insanious.
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On April 09 2011 01:51 aidnai wrote:
I claim full responsibility for kav winning. If it weren't for my overbearing negativity to him irl, he never would have risen to the challenge and pulled this game out.
You have no idea how true this is. Everytime I tried really hard to do something it was because he was taunting me so much at the time. When i was about to get lynched, he got REALLY bad, and that's when i put the most effort into making sure he would be wrong.
Also, you were wrong about everything, so take that, sucker.
On April 09 2011 01:24 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 22:53 LSB wrote:On April 08 2011 21:20 Ace wrote:
Didn't read the game but...did Kavdragon live to the end? Yep, wiggles and ON threw themselves onto the lynch to save Kavdragon, allowing them to win the king game hahahahaha amazing! He PM'd me asking for advice to live through the lynch but since I had no idea what was going on (except RoL ragequiting) I was of no real use.
You were more help that you think. I was planning on just causing chaos, and then you were like "Well, if you can pull of a roleclaim you might be able to live through it" and I was like..."Wut? Live?" Then I tried to actually survive, instead of just make people doubt everything they knew.
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On a sadder note, to the mafia QQ'ing about LSB lying to them:
First of all, you are fools if you think you are the only ones who were lied to. I asked in no uncertain terms "Can a bomb + KP kill me? Can two bombs kill me?" and he told me NO. K? I got lied to a lot also, and I had a ton of plans that went wrong because I didn't ask the right question.
This is the way that LSB works. He will answer your question in a way that doesn't give you new information. It's totally fair, and I wouldn't have it any other way. He's not going to baby you and tell you the possible outcome of EVERY situation. If you had thought of the possibility that Tnkted busses himself, then you should have asked him ABOUT THAT SITUATION.
I don't know about the town, but I'll bet they had similar experiances, and do you see any of us QQ'ing and raging in the thread? No. "But green/black actually had a chance to win..." I call BS on that. You had just as much a chance as any of us. The reason we did better was because we didn't give up when one of our plans went wrong. Blacks had their ONE KP role blocked when we finally had a shot at the king, Kenpachi's bomb didn't kill me, ilovejohn didn't kill Wiggles, the list goes on and on.
LSB put in a ridiculous amount of effort into setting this thing up, and you give him NO credit for that. Insane is called insane for a reason: EVERYTHING is OP! It's about who can use their OP the most effectivly, about who can get their hands on as much as they can, and who can get away with the most dangerous risks. If you wanted to play a normal balanced game, play a NORMAL game.
LSB was obviously concerned that the game not be badly unbalanced so he checked with vets on more than one occasion to make sure he was in the right. You give him no credit for that either.
I could argue any point made mafia has made so far, but it all comes down to learning that shit happens, so deal with it. Don't go QQ and blame everyone else about it.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 08 2011 12:38 Amber[LighT] wrote:I'll never play in an LSB game again. Sorry dude you could have corrected your mistake but instead acted like it was our fault. There were too many mechanics. Um. Yes, it's INSANE mafia. This is the core essence of Insane. If you don't like it, don't play.Black market was broken for third party. Blacks had to sell things that got them killed, you guys had to sell things that protected your enemies. Since you town/mafia already have the numbers advantage, anything that can kill us is a REALLY bad thing.
Blacks had no powers they could buy/sell (like votes or drugs)
If black market was bought out(by red/blue) , half of the Black team would be revealed, leaving only ONE unrevealed member after the IG. We had a greater burden to win it.
Both Reds and Blues had the mission to kill two blacks in order to win the black market. Our mission was to kill the blues, one of which was protected by two hidden bodyguards.
HOW WAS THIS EASIER FOR BLACK?Blues cheated and got slapped on the wrist twice. They broke the rules given by the BM OP, and for it they were punished EXACTLY as it was detailed that they should be IN THE OP. "Slapped on the wrist"? No. Dealt with appropriately.Coagulation is the worst mafia player ever. Of all the people that should pat themselves on the back for a job well done he should be the last. The game was fucked from nearly Day 3. Nothing you did benefited the town. You caused the town demise. QQ some moar. I lost almost all respect I had for you as a player, and that's actually saying a lot. Coag has amazing scumdar. No one is 100% all the time. The only shortcoming he has is his inability/unwillingness to make convincing arguments. GL to everyone in BB's game  And just wanted to add something else. WTF was the deal with the arena? First you put Pandain in. Then replace him with RoL so a mafia is in it. You endangered a key mafia role by just throwing him in there, and then just gave up. If Pandain wasn't going to be active just give me or orgo the ability to use.
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On April 09 2011 05:19 Rean wrote:
Since I see everyone saying that black had it so bad on the BM: Blue's objective was to kill the reds, not the blacks.
Blues had to kill reds, reds had to kill blacks and blacks had to kill blues.
My bad. I miss read the PMs. People were saying that BM was black favored btw.
So scratch that point off my list of why it was not black favored.
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Let's argue over IM so we don't spam the thread.
Edit: Make that PM. I doubt I'll be on much this weekend, and I don't want to look like I'm running away.
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In the universe of someone who feels cheated.
And yeah, coag's statement about the game matches my sentiment about it.
I had a great time playing all. Wiggles and I should be a team more often. He kept me from doing so many crazy things. I had a hundred and one claims and schemes that I ran by him, thankfully only one or two actually came to reality.
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On April 10 2011 03:50 Rean wrote:
TBH I should get a award for the unluckiest person of them all. I was in the blue team, getting by far the least exciting role of them all (a alignment check DT. Compared to a black market agent, another black market agent doubling as mayor and a bulletproof role-checking DT that could send anonymous messages if one of us died). I was constantly asking about the black market, but never really got any serious info about it (I thought we could just buy 4 red names if we got 20 million, no-one ever told me the black market would shut down).
Then, the one lucky moment I had all game: I dt'd the right person, Lemonwalrus, only to get the result he's blue. Tnkted claims, and my check turns out to be useless since it got bussed to Bum.
Next night, mafia decides that they want to kill Jackal. So, to avoid him getting mediced, they decide to MC the busdriver to bus Jackal and someone else around, deciding to pick me out of all the other possibilities. Then LSB decides that this breaks the laws of physics and boom, i get killed without it even being intended. ;/
Not to mention having to watch town fuck stuff up even more after I die, with Bum taking the cake failing to hand in his night actions in time ;/
Should have asked for access bro! I was the only black on my team without access, and I was really confused about it for a while at first too. Then I asked LSB if i could read (not post) it. He said it was fine, and I got the link to the QT.
Seriously unlucky kill though. Better luck next game!
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