TL Mafia XXXVII
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Cells are a good idea but GMarshal giving us predetermined groups that he thinks we should work with is pretty scummy. They weren't just like 1-3, 4-6 either, he moved them around to his liking.
Not a good candidate for day1 lynch because I don't feel that that alone is enough to incriminate him but definitely FoS on him.
I dont see how people think
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On February 23 2011 12:40 chaoser wrote:
Ok, so like Gmarshal said, we shouldn't depend on blues this game. Especially since RoL specifically said this game was to punish us for what happened in Salam. At the same thing, I don't think the mafia powers are all THAT powerful. Let them frame away, that's one less death to worry about. PMs are allowed but PLEASE don't just give out crazy info in them (roleclaim, etc.). The point of town is not to have 1 leader controlling everything but small circles that are separated so that if one goes down, the others can still operate. Let's all work together and not let a few players handle all the work (which always seems to happen). This means contributing pleaseee.
Him noting that mafia isn't that powerful is something anybody could point out. Role reversal has huge potential but only if mafia has a confirmed blue. They still have to give up an entire kp to use it so they will not be open to using it without being absolutely sure. Role reversal on a townie does nothing except waste a kp.
I'll probably end up voting for someone who hasn't posted anything useful or that guy who thought annul was inactive(lol).
wtf why would you do that?
I'm still not convinced annul is a good lynch.
On February 25 2011 07:25 LSB wrote:
Storytime! Why Annul was an easy read in XXXV
1) He mad up stuff and pushed stuff that didn't exist
Check, this game he's pushing GMarshal, saying GMarshal is clear mafia, although there is literally nothing in his accusation
2) Besides responses, he posted nothing else
Look at Annul's posts. How many of his posts deal with things other than Gmarshal or defending himself? I can't find any.
Annul's not pushing GM that hard, he simply pointed out that GM had a bad idea and is calling him out on it. I don't think he ever said "GM is clear mafia." GM DID propose an arguably terrible plan; how come nobody else is calling him out for that? Annul's not looking any more scum than GM here in my eyes.
Barundar's accusation of Jackal is definitely not convincing but it's not utter crap either. It's an interesting point to look back to in the near future. Slight FoS on Jackal imo.
And finally, why is gryff not getting lynched?
On February 24 2011 15:20 gryffindor wrote:
the HOST actually told me it was a good idea.
Blatant lie here.
On February 23 2011 17:26 gryffindor wrote:
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On February 23 2011 13:19 GMarshal wrote:
for arguments sake going to create analysis cells, use them for informational analysis
(even assuming I were scum there is no way) I could ensure each has a mafia member in it as there isn't enough mafia to go around (I am trying to put at least 1 TL vet in each) as the game progresses and people die we can have new cells form. (also you are free to create your own parallel cells)
1. Coagulation, LSB, gryffindor
2 GMarshal, seRapH, OriginalName
3 Mr. Wiggles, ICanFlyLow, kevconsim
4 Barundar, LastArgument , why
5 darmousseh, Ser Aspi, Kenpachi
6 Gofarman, chaoser, ohN
7 astroorion, CubEdIn, Jackal58
8 Beneather, annul, Conversion
9 icemac, Foolishness, LunarDestiny
10 deconduo, kitaman27, JBright
This is just a suggestion, but I think it is a good one, discuss
This would get us raped by the role reverser, and is really a scummy idea
On February 24 2011 22:14 gryffindor wrote:
Cell 1, Cell leader: Coagulation+ Show Spoiler +
1. 5. Jackal58
2. 17. astroorion
3. 1. Coagulation
Cell 2, Cell leader: kitaman27+ Show Spoiler +
4. 19. Gofarman
5. 21. kitaman27
6. 12. icemac
Cell 3, Cell leader: IDC, they're all competant+ Show Spoiler +
7. 6. Kenpachi
8. 2. LSB
9. 26. LunarDestiny
Cell 4, Cell leader: Barundar+ Show Spoiler +
10. 30. LastArgument
11. 3. Barundar
12. 9. gryffindor
Cell 5, Cell leader: deconduo+ Show Spoiler +
13. 16. ohN
14. 28. deconduo
15. 8. annul
Cell 6, Cell leader: Foolishness+ Show Spoiler +
16. 18. Foolishness
17. 27. Ser Aspi
18. 22. kevconsim
Cell 7, Cell leader: Seraph/Mr. Wiggles+ Show Spoiler +
19. 11. Beneather
20. 15. seRapH
21. 24. Mr. Wiggles
Cell 8, Cell leader: OriginalName+ Show Spoiler +
22. 14. JBright
23. 23. ICanFlyLow
24. 13. OriginalName
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25. 7. darmousseh
26. 25. chaoser
27. 20. Conversion MaxwellE
Cell 10, Cell leader: Cubedin+ Show Spoiler +
28. 4. CubEdIn
29. 29. why
30. 10. GMarshal
Now, the "leader" to me is someone who needs to go out of their way to actually collaborate with the other people in their group. If you don't want to use my list of cells, and want to use GMarshal's, whatever. I have a good list I just made right here ready for us to use. Basically, the leaders need to go out of their way to make this work. I am fully confident in these peoples abilities to report what is going on within your cell, and to hold people accountable.
Somehow, I didn't expect that...
I'll put in more analysis once day2 hits, doesn't seem worth it to type up my thoughts at the moment when day2 results could just turn them all sideways.
I still don't understand why we're voting icemac. He doesn't look scummy at all. Like, yeah, he posted about 0 analysis and opinion but that holds true for a lot of other people too. 'Just looks like a scapegoat that mafia are trying to redirect lynches too.
Between LSB and Barundar I doubt either of them are mafia. If one of them is, it's LSB. Can't really say why I think that and there's so many pages that I just read but yeah, that's my take on the situation.
So, who to vote for..
I still think gryff is suspicious, although that might just be because of his weird playstyle. I'd rather have gryff lynched than icemac to be honest. Reading through, Foolishness's post like 2-3 above this has a good point and since I don't think LSB/Barundar/icemac are mafia, there goes my vote.
Sorry, I'll catch up asap.
On March 03 2011 12:48 LSB wrote:
Again, I think we should just suggest night 3 actions
Medics, please protect Me and Foolishness.
Vigs, if you want, you should shoot Barundar. There isn't enough on Gmarshal to justify a kill.
DTs, continue checking Priority 3 people
On March 05 2011 05:22 LSB wrote:
I claim vig. I shot LA last night after reading Foolishness's analysis.
On March 05 2011 07:16 LSB wrote:
Um... why would I shoot Barundar if another vig was going to do it?
If it weren't for this post, I'd be a bit more hesitant.
If he's red, LA is red, Barundar is green, and there's a huge paper trail left to re-analyze. Honestly sounds like a good lynch.
On March 05 2011 08:14 GMarshal wrote:
then why the hell didn't you shoot me last night? nice OMGUS by the way I call you out on being the godfather and thus I must be red, I'll offer you a deal though, if you 100% believe me to be red then I'll hang today as long as you agree to hang tomorrow. If you are that sure that I am scum then it should sound like a wonderful deal to you, if you are scum then you'll come up with some brilliant theory why this is a scumplan.
My only condition is if you want to take me up on this the entire town has to agree to hang you tomorrow
Are we still at the point where we can afford to use lynches like this? Bad post?
On March 06 2011 07:43 LSB wrote:
Chaoser immediately pushed the town to lynching LSB instead of LA. Instead of lynching LA to confirm LSB, he realizes this could be his chance to take out LSB, who's been confirmed three times over
Where were these confirmations?
On March 07 2011 12:24 LSB wrote:
Right now I'm concerned about setting up for lylo. I'd rather not have lylo be filled with people who don't care, so lets take a look at the inactives/scummy players right now.
Lets look at how they voted
What it means to be on the wrong sides of a lynch
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(day 1)= This means the person did not vote for Annul Day 1
(day 2)= The person did not vote for Seraph Day 3
(day 3)= The person did not vote for Chaoser Day 4
(unvoted)= bandwagoned a wrong side of the lynch
Please note, although posting record is normally unreliable, it is an effective tool to root out lurking mafia.
gryffindor- (unvoted day 1) (day 4)
kevconsim- (unvoted day 3) (unvoted day 4)
ohN- (day 1) (day 3) (day 4)
Check this out, ohN was on the wrong side of the lynchs for all three days evaluated. In addition, he's been lurking a lot.
Lurking mafia caught?
Uh, me not voting annul day1? There was a semi-strong case against him but honestly, I'm not sure anybody really expected him to turn out to be red until he openly admitted it before he died. I voted for gryff for his erratic posting behavior.
Me not voting seraph is completely my fault for being inactive.
Not voting chaoser? I still don't understand wtf happened. Like LSB looked so scummy and then like turned the tables so hard and chaoser turned out to be red, it was like magic.
Oh yeah, and I didn't hop on the icemac wagon. He didn't look scummy at all.
I seriously thought LSB looked scummy as hell but now, I have just have no f-ing idea.
Maybe I'm just too noob for this game.
good luck town.