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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 27 2011 22:50 GMT
#1044
Voting Icemac because I want to move the lynch off of just 4 people.

Also because Annul was reluctant to move the lynch onto Icemac
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 27 2011 23:45 GMT
#1060
On February 28 2011 08:37 Barundar wrote:
I have to go to bed now. Letting LSB misdirect the lynch is a bad idea, I'm willing to give myself up 1 for 1, his problem is he knows I will flip green.

If you think I've played anti town, go back and read my posts. I raised suspecion against LSB, and he responded with an omgus. His arguments against my case was purely offensive. I'll just leave with my favorite quote of his:
Show nested quote +
I know annul red, ezpz. I know Barundar is red. Lynch him and clear me.

If your willing to vote for yourself, I'll me more than happy to go and lynch you.

The problem is there are too many lynches and we have to narrow it down to force mafia to take positions on all issues.

For example, you flip red. Well, that tells us a lot about 3 players in the game, but there are 20+ others that have barely even commented on the lynch besides taking a cursory stance.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 28 2011 14:57 GMT
#1170
On February 28 2011 20:13 deconduo wrote:
To explain why I'm getting pissed off at this game, and why I posted this:

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 04:16 deconduo wrote:
Why does everyone ignore me...


First of all we have Jackal. He claimed posting PMs is scummy. When asked to explain the logic behind it he dodged the question twice then posted this gem:

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 01:06 Jackal58 wrote:
Decon- We'll simply have to agree to disagree on the posting of PM's. I think it's a bad idea. You don't. I'm over it. It's not an issue worth arguing.

I'd like to know why I am the only one concerned about gryffindor and his lie.


Essentially he paints it as a difference in opinion instead of responding to any of my questions or hypothetical scenarios. I point it out and no one picks up on it.



LSB reponds to Barundar's analysis of him with a hugely hugely bad and flawed argument. I'm the only one that picks up on it, and I point it out. LSB and everyone else ignores it and just continues on as if nothing happened:

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 02:15 deconduo wrote:
On February 28 2011 02:09 LSB wrote:
Barundar's contradiction (again)
On February 27 2011 19:04 Barundar wrote:
LSB doesn’t need convincing of Foolishness either:
Everyone trusts certain people. For example, I'm trusting Foolishness because I don't believe that RoL would make him mafia given the state of TL town.

This argument has no behaviour support at this point in the game. It’s an arbitrary reason for placing trust in someone, and it lacks that distrust of others that is indicative of town behaviour.

So we can't speculate about role picks?

Oh look what you did yourself
On February 27 2011 01:43 Barundar wrote:
At the same time it’s clear from the night hits that we have at least 1 experienced analysist on the scum team. The only really experienced players in the game are LSB and Foolishness.


In fact, you did the exact same thing. You trusted Foolishness with Absolute no behavior support and accused me of being scum for doing the same


Flawed/bad argument. You claimed host wouldn't pick Foolishness as mafia. He claimed there was an experienced player due to the play, and that you and Foolishness were the 2 most experienced. Theres a big difference.




Finally, gryffindor lies, blackmails etc. I call him out on it. Not only does he not defend himself, everyone else just walks on by as if nothing happened:

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 00:06 deconduo wrote:
Ok, good lynch guys. I have no idea what sort of a dumb play he was making but we'll see soon enough. I wouldn't be surprised if he was bussing LSB or GMarshal or something, especially as GMarshal tried to save him in the last minute. One thing that puzzles me is that the people trying to 'save' annul all spread out their votes as opposed to focusing on trying to lynch one person.

I would scrutinise everyone voting for icemac. Reading through the thread it really does look like people tried to divert the wagon onto him.

My biggest FOS by far right now is gryffindor.

-Fucks around with fake claims
-Attempts to blackmail me
-Claims I edited the PMs I posted which is a barefaced lie
-Tells everyone that they have to vote for icemac or annul. If everyone who left the annul BW changed to icemac he wouldn't have been lynched at all. But gryff conveniently leaves his vote on annul so he can claim 'look I lynched the scum' if the play doesn't work. (which it didn't)
-Incident with the 'sarcasm' While he is probably telling the truth it doesn't mean we should ignore it completely.
-Long drawn out argument with GMarshal about the cell idea, yet suddenly agrees with him and votes annul instead. I honestly think that GMarshal + gryffindor staged that to some extent. There was something fishy there.

Would suggest him as a DT check target.


While DTs + cops are unreliable, we should at least use the threat of them to force mafia to waste KP covering/framing.


I'm going home for the weekend, and its a long, tiring trip. I probably won't be online again until tomorrow.


Maybe bright red might help.

Gryffindor lied about me editing PMs and has not said anything more on the matter or defended himself on it.

Also cute, saying I'm from the UK. It won't make me mad, it will just make me try my damned best to get you lynched.

I feel ignored www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191888&currentpage=50#991
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 28 2011 15:13 GMT
#1173
That I responded to again... I don't want to dig it up.
Firstly, you didn't respond to any part of my post just threw up another post pretending it disproved it
Secondly, to say that is the central analysis of the post is plain silly
Thirdly, to say that not voting for annul = town is silly
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 28 2011 15:33 GMT
#1180
Sorry, I gave barundar more credit for his argument than it was do

Umm... So more unsupport arguments? It doesn't take a genious to take a gun to Priority 2 players who probably weren't medic protected. Why do I have to be at the helm of any intresting play?

In addtion, that is one gigantic WIFORM
Lets assume that LSB is scum
That means foolishness is town
Which means LSB is scum.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 28 2011 15:34 GMT
#1181
On March 01 2011 00:24 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 00:13 LSB wrote:
That I responded to again... I don't want to dig it up.
Firstly, you didn't respond to any part of my post just threw up another post pretending it disproved it
Yes I did. I clarified there.
Secondly, to say that is the central analysis of the post is plain silly
Didn't say this
Thirdly, to say that not voting for annul = town is silly
I agree. But once again, taken out of context.


This is my response to your bolding of the blue portion.
If I in anyway took something out of context or misrepresented your argument please explain what you were meaning when you bolded the blue portion
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 28 2011 16:01 GMT
#1190
On March 01 2011 00:37 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 00:33 LSB wrote:
Sorry, I gave barundar more credit for his argument than it was do

Umm... So more unsupport arguments? It doesn't take a genious to take a gun to Priority 2 players who probably weren't medic protected. Why do I have to be at the helm of any intresting play?

In addtion, that is one gigantic WIFORM
Lets assume that LSB is scum
That means foolishness is town
Which means LSB is scum.


My biggest problem with you wasn't Barun's analysis. It was the way you defended yourself from it with a completely bad argument. If his argument was so full of holes or so terrible, why attack that minor point with such flawed reasoning. Also that you ignored my post, but I was wrong about that sorry

Okay, so what major points have I ignored?
And why is paying attention to his arguments a bad thing?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 28 2011 16:03 GMT
#1191
Deconduo. Do you have a scum read on me? Or do you just want to criqute my posting style?
And you still ignore my posts where I explain the reasoning is perfectly rational.
Your chasing a ghost that doesn't exist
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 28 2011 22:30 GMT
#1204
You still cease to repsond to my allegations, you again default to your two main points

1. I do not address the the main points of Barunder. This is completly false
2. I use false logic. This again is false. I've explained why you cannot just assume that between me and foolishness there is only one mafia, and I've still explained why he is indeed assuming foolishness is town.

Both of these points you ignore and pretend don't exist

Its not your being ignored, its you choosing to ignore my responses, because they completely disprove the misconseption you are perpetration.

It seems like you are just poorly defending Barundar but trying to get some offense with it.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 28 2011 23:38 GMT
#1206
On March 01 2011 07:54 deconduo wrote:
-1)Barun made no assumption on picks

Hmmm... If you think so...

-2)Barun did not assume Foolishness was town. Merely that at least one of you is mafia,

Wait what???
No assumptions on pics?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 01 2011 00:55 GMT
#1209
On March 01 2011 09:03 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 08:38 LSB wrote:
On March 01 2011 07:54 deconduo wrote:
-1)Barun made no assumption on picks

Hmmm... If you think so...

-2)Barun did not assume Foolishness was town. Merely that at least one of you is mafia,

Wait what???
No assumptions on pics?


Have you been ignoring EVERYTHING I POSTED? Barun assumed one of you were mafia because of the kills. Because of the kills. Because of the kills. Because of the kills.

Its come up about twenty times. How hard is it to drill this into your brain. It even came up in THAT POST!

On March 01 2011 00:33 LSB wrote:
Sorry, I gave barundar more credit for his argument than it was do

Umm... So more unsupport arguments? It doesn't take a genious to take a gun to Priority 2 players who probably weren't medic protected. Why do I have to be at the helm of any intresting play?


Maybe because you didn't respond so I assumed we weren't talking about this silly point?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 01 2011 02:57 GMT
#1215
I was role blocked last night.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 01 2011 03:01 GMT
#1218
Priority 1: Automatic night 1 snipes if possible
These players are proven scumhunters
LSB
Foolishness

Priority 2: Active vets
These player have quiet a few games under their belt and are pretty active
Barundar
CubEdIn
darmousseh
GMarshal
Beneather
seRapH
kitaman27
Mr. Wiggles
chaoser
LunarDestiny
deconduo
why
Bumatlarge

Priority 3: Kill if you think they are blue
These players are generally inactive, or easily to bus
Coagulation
Jackal58
Kenpachi
annul
gryffindor
ohN

Uncatagorized: Newish people, sort them into the three groups as they start playing
icemac
OriginalName
JBright
astroorion
Gofarman
MaxwellE
Conversion
kevconsim
Ser Aspi
LastArgument
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 01 2011 03:03 GMT
#1221
Beneather didn't leave us much to breadcrumb off of.
Possibly he checked Icemac night 1 and mafia framed Icemac
On February 28 2011 08:50 Beneather wrote:
I'm going to stick on the lynch I had on Day 1 and vote to lynch off Icemac.

##Vote: Icemac


Or he was somewhat breadcrumbing Ser Apasi, but I don't believe this is serious.
On February 25 2011 12:27 Beneather wrote:
Ooooh, I think that we should lynch Ser Aspi next he tried pushing the lynch to Mr.Wiggles :O!
What a huge step for town lmfao. :D

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 01 2011 15:38 GMT
#1282
I don't get the LD lynch.
Am I reading it right, or is it all based on one PM? (And also how LD is a bit more inactive than usual?)
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 01 2011 15:41 GMT
#1284
Yeah, here, just use this instead (or make your own one)
[image loading]
[img]http://imgur.com/zo6ON.jpg[/img]
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 01 2011 16:02 GMT
#1286
And the Jbright lynch is just about how he is indecisive?

Then again, it's not his first game. I'll look at how he played in Orgah
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 01 2011 18:45 GMT
#1292
@LSB
1) why are you defending LD?

The lynch sucks

3) I feel like you are fake-defending JBright to cover up your actual wanting to keep LD alive

Again, I feel like its another "iceman" esq lynch. This time I don't even think he supported Annul.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 02 2011 00:01 GMT
#1304
I agree 4 KP is overpowered, but I do believe that Jackal is telling the truth.

I still think we should lynch Barundar.
My points about him forcing analysis still stands.

Or we should check out the Iceman lynch day 1 to see if it was actually a bus by mafia.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 02 2011 00:04 GMT
#1305
If we trust Annul, and assume that there is one godfather.
4 Mafia left, 1 of which is godfather That leaves mafia with 2.5 KP. Which is a bit suspect, especially since 3 people died night one.

A more standard setup would be 6 mafia, 1 of which is godfather
5 Mafia left, 1 of which is godfather That leaves mafia with 3 KP. Mafia would have used all their KP on hits night one, meaning if they roleblocked both me and Jackal, that means a vig should have hit.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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