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As a start, I would like to simply Vote: Insanious There now that this is out of the way time to read up on what has happened so far. | ||
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On February 13 2011 02:46 LunarDestiny wrote: WTF. The time the voting ended was so unexpected... This shit is crazy. Pevergreen, so what am I allowed to talk about? Having played on .org before, I can tell you, basically you play exactly like you did before you died BUT: 1) You cannot vote 2) You cannot reveal anything in your role PM 3) You cannot reveal anything you found out pre-death based on role powers (etc. saving people, DT'ing, if you viged someone, etc...) So basically you can just scum hunt, and you can win with the town still. | ||
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On February 15 2011 13:30 ilovejonn wrote: Insanious read the thread most likely, but has nothing to contribute at all? Then he coasts by, as you call it, by posting some info stated in the OP, if I were to vote anyone I'd be voting him. I've read the thread twice and have a hard time finding anyone that I see as red. The posts are so small, and the analysis so far so few that there really isn't anything for me to look at. I mean seriously, people are just trying to do pressure voting right now and no one is even getting pressured. BTW, answering a question =/= simply posting something found on the front page. Someone asked for help and I gave it, would you rather I left the town in confusion? That doesn't seem very town like. I'd rather post meaningful posts that contribute to the town then continue to have to post nothing because people just want to see my name in the thread. What is there to contribute right now? No one has contributed a single thing so far and we have no suspects at all even though we're getting close to day 3. People need to post more in general, and need to post longer posts to give people something to actually write about. The only people we can really look at right now are like Coag and aidnai and even then, they don't seem that scummy really. So here ilovejonn, here's my obligatory nothing post to make you happy... I'll post in the future when I have something to say, but right now... I have nothing to work with, nothing to analyze, and as such have nothing to say. | ||
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On February 16 2011 07:03 GMarshal wrote: The fact that he is being so blatantly scummy, what would scum gain from playing this way? If he were scum then why isn't he defending himself? If we hadn't had 5 modkills I'd be fine with just lynching him, but I realize now that if we don't hit mafia today then 2 more townies are going to be brutally murdered tonight, we aren't in a good spot right now and I dont think we can afford a mislynch. GGQ please post at least your name so we can use that to discuss weather or not to lynch. (according to the op there are no roles that win by being lynched, so you can't want to die) On February 16 2011 09:27 GMarshal wrote: Yep, GGQ has some insane role and based on that I think it is a waste to lynch him, lets look at other targets shall we? if we dont find anything better we can still lynch GGQ, but at this point it feels like a waste of a lynch which we badly need to use to reduce mafia kp at this point. GMarshal you know something we don't about GGQ? Vote GMarshal | ||
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You are Crazed Rabbit One of the veterans from the very early days, you originally had a reputation for never lying. You would always tell the truth. It led to complicated situations when you were mafia. Recently you’ve hosted some very interesting games You are Town Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated. This is my role PM. I might not be able to help the town much since really... I'm bad at scum hunting when people don't post. At least having me around doesn't hurt the town, the town can still play after dying... so town alive simply = lives, but town dead = scum hunters. Here, at least we can do two things: 1) Not look at me anymore 2) Have the mafia point their gun at me, instead of someone else... least I can do. I really really wish I could help more, but I haven't seen any really big slip ups besides fluffy... and I'm not that good at scum hunting. Look at my past games... game 1 = me identifying no scum really... game 2 = me accidentally identifying an inactive scum. I suck at scum hunting, I AM good at poking holes in other's analysis to defend town (happened in both pokemafia and XXXV (i think that's the other mafia I played in)). If there were more accusations, and more analysis of other players going on here... I could help a lot more. But as of now I just see "seems very meh, seems very meh, seems very meh..." with no "dear god! your red!" - - - - - - Now, here. I want to just say that fluffy's copy paste incident = incriminating IMHO. You copy and paste in one fluid movement, you DO NOT cut out the middle of what you quote. Vote thefluffyone93 | ||
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On February 18 2011 11:41 GGQ wrote: Interesting that you italicised the whole line 'you are town' instead of just the word 'town'. Guess I messed up putting in the code that no one else put in, even though its there... my bad. | ||
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On February 18 2011 11:54 chaoser wrote: Ok, 1 mistake I can understand, 2 I can understand, but three people with weird c/p of their PMs? That's a little weird. Is there some sort of faction that WANTS to die? There's no joke roles right? to be fair, my mistake wasn't a copy paste. any formatting doesn't carry over... being the bold and italicize. Very different than a copy paste "mistake"... | ||
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On February 20 2011 02:28 chaoser wrote: For insanious, he writes (in a whopping 7 posts this entire game!) and then he contributes: and Basically he's done shit all game. I'm fine with lynching either him or beefy No one has done anything this game... look at everyone's posts. Sure they might have a lot of posts, but over all they say nothing. There hasn't been a single true analysis done of a single player this game. half of peoples posts are voting or going "I wonder who the mafia are, hurp-a-derp". I haven't posted a lot, because there hasn't been anything to post about. Pick ANY player, and read what they have posted... truely do it. Hell, I went through deconduo's posts last night and he had 39 spam posts (consiting of things from "my university actually runs random.org" to posts where he quotes others and doesn't actually say anything, to him just posting "why?" only one word. his other posts are simply him quoting every post a player had and going "I don't know if they are scum..." So helpful. Lets look at your posts shall we? You have 35 posts, with such gems as... On February 14 2011 15:43 chaoser wrote: BACK! I will 100% read and analyze tomorrow, you can hold me to that, if I don't you can lynch me =p No analysis followed... On February 16 2011 14:31 chaoser wrote: I will say that I'm not scum though, I just have no idea how to play this particular game. No role flips, no clues, weird rules/restrictions for every person that we can't speak about or tell people, maybe multiple factions? @sin + Show Spoiler + On February 13 2011 06:41 SiNiquity wrote: Ironically, my character profile states I don't have much time for mafia anymore LOL so true. But anyway, I just caught up with the thread and there's a shit ton of Kita bashing for no apparent reason. You guys are dumb if you think he's mafia. On February 13 2011 06:46 SiNiquity wrote: No shit, because when I post I'm right. So no, I don't make a ton of haphazard posts saying "Well what about this itty bitty thing over here that someone said that makes me tingle in funny places? And it's not my SPIDEY SENSEEEE" because let's face it, I don't have a need to crap all over the thread like the rest of you. On February 13 2011 07:59 SiNiquity wrote: Yes mum. Sorry mum. -_- On February 14 2011 05:24 SiNiquity wrote: I'd post a rolleyes smiley but even a thousand wouldn't cut it so: http://i54.tinypic.com/28k6no3.gif On February 14 2011 11:42 SiNiquity wrote: Hmm. also on top of what you already said about misder his only post from the start of the day: Lies. you haven't said much of anything either or even On February 18 2011 11:54 chaoser wrote: Ok, 1 mistake I can understand, 2 I can understand, but three people with weird c/p of their PMs? That's a little weird. Is there some sort of faction that WANTS to die? There's no joke roles right? Your posts add NOTHING to the game, you are just posting for the sake of posting... just like everyone else. At least I chose not to clutter up the thread with my "zomg I don't know who the mafia are" this is litterally like russian roulette where we randomly kill people hoping they are mafia. Only the fluffy vote had any actual reasoning behind it... every other one was just a bandwaggon simply because the town has no idea who is who. You make it seem like I'm the only one who isn't posting... really no one is posting, they are just trying to seem active. | ||
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On February 20 2011 03:33 ilovejonn wrote: here goes Insanious saying he has nothing to post again like his last post where I pointed him out. Really? No one did anything constructive? Look at deconduo. On the contrary you really had nothing to analyze through a whopping 48 pages of this game? Man even if there were spam posts and you are bad at scum hunting at least TRY to do an analysis or else you wouldn't ever get good at it anyways. Just sayin. Can someone show me what deconduo actually did? Really show me... I looked through his posts and I saw litterally nothing. 39 spam posts 15 posts that were simply him quoting every post a player made (or close too) and then saying they could or could not be scum. This isn't helpful. The scum in Pokemafia used this tactic to look like town, all they did were HUGE analysis that no one really read and said nothing, and they STOMPED the town. Look in mafia XXXV, annul did the EXACT same kind of analysis, and the only reason he lost that game was because 2 of the mafia went inactive and were mod killed. This kind of analysis is NOT helpful, and is used by scum ALL the time. Now PLEASE, quote posts where deconduo did ANYTHING... hell, quote posts by ANY player that did any thing. Throught this whole thread there have been like 4 useful posts... GMarshal decoding why's message. chaoser pointing out fluffy's missing "you are town". This was done through 2 posts by each player. EVERY other post in this who thread... are spammy and useless. Please, help me. Show me posts where someone did anything besides these two scenarios. | ||
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On February 20 2011 03:54 ilovejonn wrote: So...what you are saying is, because they aren't doing anything or posting anything useful, you feel that you should do the same... why? Oh maybe to look like you're the same alignment as them. No what I'm saying is that, if people don't post anything worth while, there is nothing worth while to look at and you end up with this scenario where there is nothing for me to post about. I COULD just go "zomg, player X doesn't say anything ever... he must be mafia" but when EVERY player does it, it shows nothing... When there is nothing to analyze, because no one has posted anything, then anything I post will be about nothing as well... its a catch 22. On February 20 2011 03:58 GMarshal wrote: I just checked, Insanious is Crazed Rabbit. which is exactly what I said earlier in this thread btw. | ||
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On February 18 2011 11:32 Insanious wrote: Quoted exactly from what I posted before, didn't even change the messed up italicize people got angry at me for before. | ||
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On February 20 2011 05:57 deconduo wrote: @Insanious Did you kill why? no I did not | ||
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On February 20 2011 06:08 deconduo wrote: Ah well I was hoping your personality wouldn't allow you to lie, shame. I did not lie, I am not mafia or sk. i do not have any powers in this game. I cannot kill, I am a plain green.  sorry town, that I apparently look so scummy that you are going to throw away the game on this lynch. | ||
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On February 20 2011 06:17 Believer wrote: To me this looks more like a guilt plea and not a desperate try for victory. Mind you that if he is town he loses by this. I would certainly be more desperate and trying to hold on. Most likely anti-town trying to guilt town into doubt. I support his lynch. (Remember that these are the opinions of a first-time playing, dead townie) If I am SK i lose by this, If I am Mafia I lose by this, If I am town, town loses by dying. So want to rethink this? If I am SK, then I am alone, I die... game over If I am GF, then according to everyone here GGQ and fluffy were mafia making the GF last living mafia member. If I am GF, I am alone, I die... game over. If I am town, then I get lynched, SK kills someone, and GF kills two people. Town loses... So guess what, no matter what role I am, if I die I lose. I have been disapointed with the play in this game, so have not posted. I still am disapointed and have little to nothing to go on for a defense. As such I repost my role PM: You are Crazed Rabbit One of the veterans from the very early days, you originally had a reputation for never lying. You would always tell the truth. It led to complicated situations when you were mafia. Recently you’ve hosted some very interesting games You are Town Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated. Really think my role would be anti-town... | ||
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Meh, Mafia would know that I am not mafia, and would also know that I have a 1/5 chance of being the SK and 4/5 of being town. Mafia would also know that by killing me then they only have to kill the SK to win the game. As such, the player who gains the most from my death is the GF. I die, and the GF can take some time to kill the town + has 1 day to try and lynch the SK. If I am SK, then Mafia wins game over. You and chaoser are pushing so hard for my death, you obviously have something to gain from it... that being a mafia win. You two are red, I call it. I know I am going to get lynched here because of why... so I get to post this outrageous claim that people won't believe... but you will see once pever posts the role PMs. | ||
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On February 20 2011 07:11 chaoser wrote: Why would scum want people to vote? I've PMed the two I think are townie that haven't voted/posted in thread too. Scum would just be content to let people get mod killed/no activity. There's no reason for me to push you as a lynch candidate if I was red. You think I am the SK, since you know who is the GF, and know that if you lynch the SK you win the game. As such, in a normal case... getting mod killed works for the mafia... but in this case, you have to kill the SK first, as such keeping town alive long enough to kill the SK first. This is also why you posted telling the GF to only kill once, not twice. This doesn't benefit the town, only the GF. If we miss mafia or SK today, then SK wins the game... GF can only win if: 1) we lynch SK today 2) we lynch SK tomorrow AFTER GF only kills 1 person SK wins if: 1) We lynch town today and gf kills 2 2) we lynch town or gf tomorrow 3) we lynch mafia today, and town tomorrow Town wins if: 1) we lynch SK today and GF tomorrow 2) we lynch GF today, and lynch sk tomorrow - - - - - - Now, as the GF... you know we are lynching town today... this means town 100% loses. Now time to save your self... you have to kill 1 person, then lynch SK in order to win... you post it outloud to seem less like scum, but really... | ||
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On February 20 2011 07:41 GMarshal wrote: yes, but you seem to be ignoring vital evidence Insanious, why's riddles, as I see it there is no reason to doubt them, which means that either you or someone who is already dead are the SK, hence by hanging you we pretty much guarantee that the SK is dead, giving town an actual chance of victory. On the off-chance why lied then GF pretty much has to only kill one person tonight to make sure he dosn't outright lose, so as I see it we are in a good spot. Naturally GF while *I* have full faith on why being honest you should really consider if its worth risking losing outright by killing two people tonight. False. I say deconduo was a grunt. As such killing me gurantees an anti-town is dead... but might not be one that matters. As well, I never said it wasn't good for GF to kill 1 person, just that it doesn't help town. Killing 1 or killing 2 does the same amount of damage to the town... GF would of had to only kill 1 yesterday for it to make a difference to the town. | ||
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On February 20 2011 07:49 chaoser wrote: But just above you said: So yeah...looks like you tripped up on your own words how so? if we lynch town today (which we are) then Scenario 2 happens, were GF can win if GF only kills 1 person. There is no slip up there. These are scenarios not "this + this happens" GF wins if: 1) town lynches SK today OR 2) town lynches SK tomorrow AFTER GF only kills 1 person there is no slip up... please point one out? | ||
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I am town btw  . I'll come back to postI told you so once we lose the game. | ||
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I have said this already, but no one believes me . | ||
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obviously it has something to do with chaoser's red text... for some reason, I assume it is something like: "you cannot change your vote once cast" | ||
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my bad, I had assumed that you had voted me. Didn't really pay attention considering how sure you are I am anti-town. | ||
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I wonder what they will say (i bet they will blame me for looking scummy ) | ||
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On February 20 2011 11:31 chaoser wrote: Look, here's the thing. There are MULTIPLE signs pointing to insanious as SK. People think I'm GF. BUT! It's more sure that he is SK. Either way, if I really was GF, then town wins cause both me and him are in the hottest fucking spotlights ever. But we're MORE SURE OF HIM. We got why's clues and deconduo saying he's SK due to some shit he found out before he died. I know I'm town, you guys don't, that's fine. BUT FUCKING PLAY SMART! WE GOT CONCRETE EVIDENCE AGAINST HIM. WE GOT CONJECTURE ON ME. VOTE HIM!! If you still think I'm GF tomorrow, vote me off. I'm begging you guys, we can WIN this! No you cannot, I am 100% town. You have no proof... you think you do, but really all you have is lies. I 100% promise you that I am town... | ||
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On February 20 2011 11:53 chaoser wrote: Yeah, it's LYLO. Would you rather vote for someone who's confirmed anti town or someone who's only thought to be antitown? There is who thing that... no matter who we vote today, I die. I'm town -> GF attacks me thinking im SK, SK attacks me thinking im GF (maybe 1 or both) I'm GF -> SK attacks me for the game I'M SK -> GF attacks me for the game So keeping me alive, no matter who I am soaks up a hit from the GF, SK, or both. - - - - Killing someone else on the other hand, gives the town a chance to kill the GF or SK... while we know that at least one GF and/or SK attack is coming my way. This means if I am not town, then town gets hit less during night hits. Although, if I am town... then it just means I'm another night hit and well, if we don't find GF or SK OR if GF and SK don't accidentally stack... then town dies. Meh. | ||
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On February 20 2011 12:04 chaoser wrote: Pever, what happens if there's a tie? Is there no lynch or does first person to reach three get lynched? In the OP, it says that a predetermined outcome happens. I assume that means that he has basically a list set out where he has it like "if Insanious and chaoser are tied, then Insanious is killed and chaoser lives" or something like that. | ||
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On February 20 2011 12:06 Ace wrote: SiNiquity is still alive? yes | ||
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I will vote my self, to kill my self to end the chance of town winning. This will save time, as we will lose the whole lylo 2nd day chance and will simply die tomorrow instead of possibly going to a 2nd day. If you want me to vote my self, to end this game please say so. I will change my vote as soon as the town tells me to do so. Please Vote Now. Disclaimer: I take 0 responsibility for the town loss, I tried to take your eyes off me, but they will not budge. As such, I am simply trying to finish the game 1 day earlier so we can all get to other mafia games. If I do this, this will be on those that tell me to kill the town, rather than me. Please keep this in mind, as I will NOT sit quietly if ANYONE blames me for the town loss after me posting so much to try and save my self and the town. The ball is in your court town  . | ||
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On February 20 2011 19:11 gryffindor wrote: I just can't get over Insanious slipping up on that PM Can you explain that? I was town, and all I did was put in the Italisize syntax that I put in my self since it doesn't carry over when you copy paste and did the whole line instead of just town accidentally. It wasn't a slip up, I am town... and you guys just lost the game  .Go Go SK you got this! | ||
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On February 21 2011 01:14 chaoser wrote: For someone who says he's not the SK, you sure didn't give us any alternatives Because everyone was 100% sure I was SK. Nothing I could of said would of swayed you. Not to mention there was nothing that I could say that would of done so. You would of killed me today or tomorrow. If I died either day, town lost. I gave up simply because no one even gave me the benefit of the doubt at all... untill beefy WAYYYYYY too late to matter. Not to mention... I really couldn't defend my self without getting mod killed. Nor could I use a different defense due to my red text... you'll understand when game ends. | ||
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The only way the town can win is if GMarshal kills chaoser, and chaoser kills GMarshal. | ||
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Now the funny thing is, if GF and SK role claimed... two would chose who won. Lynch GF, SK kills 1 town = 1 sk and 1 town (tie). Lynch SK, GF kills 1 town = GF wins... But Lynch town = 1 sk 1 gf 1 town night would be a massacre with either gf winning or sk (sk can win if immune to night hits) fun end game scenario. | ||
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I also had a nice MSG from pever that told me why I was in why's message from day 1... although I wouldn't know what he meant till then. Was not really that fun considering how people played the game... if it would of been a lot more active, with a lot more accusations flying around it would of been a lot easier for me to play the way I usually do. | ||
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You are Crazed Rabbit One of the veterans from the very early days, you originally had a reputation for never lying. You would always tell the truth. It led to complicated situations when you were mafia. Recently you’ve hosted some very interesting games You are Town Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated. You should attempt to never be caught in a lie, and try to ignore the advice and arguments of people you think to be pro town, and comment mainly on those of whom you believe to be mafia. I went a little hardcore on my red text... Had to ignore any arguments made by anyone that I thought was town... well considering how people posted I thought almost everyone was town... so that ment no talking for almost all the game .This coupled with no lying... ment that I couldn't just be like "Player X is Mafia!!!!" and then push to see what happened simply because that would be a lie as I wouldn't think they were mafia. I couldn't really talk till after why's message were I could attack deconduo, chaoser, and GMarshal... even if I only had 1 correct scum within the bunch. Also, I told you I was town... I also showed you my role PM hoping people would realize I couldn't tell a lie... even beefy told you guys this, but no noe believed the .orger... .I played a terrible game because I took my red text to heart, should of ignored it and went attacking people but I wanted to play my character and without any hunches (because im bad at scum hunting...) it made it hard for me to post anything. Couldn't respond to attacks on other players, couldn't respond to other players ideas of how to play that game unless I thought they were scum... ya... | ||
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