EPTTL Mafia XXXVI
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BrownBear
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On January 24 2011 02:39 Qatol wrote: Clearly it is because I'm so important I am a suspect even in games I'm not playing in.  Quiet, scum  | ||
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BrownBear
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On January 23 2011 23:52 Jackal58 wrote: So not having played in a game yet with an elected mayor and body guards isn't being selected as body guard a death sentence on night 1? The Bodyguard role is hidden, so nobody knows who's selected (except maybe the mayor? Pretty sure even he doesn't know, but not sure.) | ||
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BrownBear
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Then yeah, I have a question: How is that balanced? | ||
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On January 24 2011 03:27 Amber[LighT] wrote: If a pro-town mayor picks scum bodyguards then the mayor is pretty safe from mafia hits imo... Interesting idea. I think the mayor would have to pick 2 scum as his bodyguards in that case - I'm not convinced mafia wouldn't just sacrifice a goon to take out a really powerful blue role. If the mayor can get the GF/roleblocker as his bodyguard, he's probably guaranteed safe for a little while. On the flipside, if he picks DTs/medics/whoever, he's screwing town over. So prospective mayors, take note: I want to see some theorycrafting on who you're going to pick as your bodyguards, and why. Before anyone really starts voting, we should start talking about bodyguard selection. | ||
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On January 24 2011 08:53 CubEdIn wrote: Just adding one thing: A lot of things may be worth sacrificing to kill a red, but the census ability is probably on the bottom of that list. Agreed. I really think mafia would sacrifice a goon for the mayor - all the more reason why we shouldn't let them. On January 24 2011 08:53 CubEdIn wrote: If the picks go wrong and mayor is dealt with during the first night, we will have absolutely 0 information from census. So the best scenario would be hope that one of the picks is a blue-vet. That way, it will take at least 3KPs to get to the mayor (assuming that the other BG is red). Actually, a thought provoking idea. Would it be worth it to have veterans claim, and select them as bodyguards? I'm not convinced that it would work that well, but I'd like to hear some debate on it. Actually, our best best case scenario is to have the SK picked as a bodyguard... On January 24 2011 08:53 CubEdIn wrote: And it's not really worth saying what we should risk sacrificing for a scum until we figure out a way to pick BGs. Because if we're gonna pick volunteers, I'm pretty sure neither will be a scum. Which is the baseline scenario, which isn't great for us, but isn't terrible either. It gives us at least a day of census. So, I want to ask this question, and propose this discussion point: Should we have veterans claim and be used as bodyguards? And also: What about trying to get the Serial Killer as a bodyguard? | ||
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BrownBear
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You are the elected leader of the town. Elections will take place on day 1. When elected, you will publicly select two bodyguards to protect you for the rest of the game. While bodyguards are alive, you cannot be targeted by night hits or the roleblocker. Role checks on you will return “Mayor”. You have the power of Census. Every night, you have the ability to determine the number of any alignment or role in the game. For instance, you can check the number of mafia total, OR the number of godfathers, OR the number of roleblockers in the game. The valid alignments are Town (returns the number of vanilla townies), Special Town, Mafia, and Serial Killer. All roles listed here can be counted. For the purposes of census, bodyguards, the mayor, and godfathers count as their original alignments and roles. Normally, the Mayor cant be targeted by DTs either, but it seems like that was purposefully left out. Mod Question: Can the mayor be DT checked/medic protected/mason recruited? | ||
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It's no offense to Kav or kitaman, I just don't know their playstyles as well. On January 25 2011 01:39 darmousseh wrote: Who should be volunteering as bodyguards? Those with blue abilities or just normal townies? Nobody should be volunteering yet, I don't think volunteering is a good strategy. If we volunteer greens, it lowers the number of people in the pool of potential blues, so mafia can easily bluesnipe. If we volunteer blues, it's basically saying "HEY MAFIA FREE BLUES GO GO GO" Blues' greatest asset is their anonymity and the ability to hide amongst the greens, and we want to preserve that as long as possible. | ||
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Each player in the game What role they've soft/hardclaimed (includes mayor/bodyguard) Profile picture Public Profile Quote/Signature Random notes about them Links to important posts theyve made. (i.e. contradictions, good analysis, etc.) If you start cataloguing this now, it gets a lot easier, and it really helps you analyze people later in the game. Also, it's a good habit to get into, for any mafia game, if you want to improve. You WILL catch shit you might have missed otherwise. | ||
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So will DocH and Pandain's profiles be used throughout the whole game, or just for today? | ||
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Let's focus more on the mayoral debate. For one, I wonder why RoL voted Kav without giving reason. Maybe he's just not voting for himself, either because he doesn't think he can, or because he is being polite. Or maybe he's decided he doesn't want the mayoral position that much after all. If so, why? | ||
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BrownBear
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I'll switch over to Kav in a second. Let's not just all agree on killing ON right now though. More discussion/analysis = better chance of killing someone. Also, ON isn't really doing a good job of defending himself if he actually is scum. Typically scum are more active in their defense, and will usually try to deflect suspicion onto someone else, or highlight someone else's scummy behavior. Basically, draw suspicion away from them, not act like the suspicion is no big deal. That speaks apathetic townie to me, not scum. | ||
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On January 25 2011 10:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I agree that we shouldn't be 100% locked into lynching ON but as Ilovejonn (can I abbreviate to ILJ?) pointed out, ON has done a couple of weakish and scummish defenses of himself. Right now I'm inclined to say he's a SK rather than mafia but either would be a good kill. However I will (and I hope Kav does as well) continue to look around to make sure we have the best fit for the clue. Honestly, if we become convinced he's SK, we should just make him a bodyguard, and lynch him at our leisure. | ||
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BrownBear
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Makes this tough. I wish we had more than 2 serious candidates. | ||
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On January 26 2011 03:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: hmmm? You know he's not playing right? Is this an invalid vote? Amber, you are clearly on top of your shit this game -.- | ||
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On January 26 2011 03:02 Kavdragon wrote: The bolded parts are a seeming contradiction, but the rest of it simply doesn't make sense. I'd be interested in what your opinions are on these topics, but I can't understand what you are trying to say. Your plan seems like a way of clumping the mafia's targets into a small group of people to get them all killed easily... I'm pretty sure his overarching point is "figure out who the mafia would conceivably target night one, then don't pick them as bodyguards." Which still doesn't make any sense, because making someone a bodyguard is painting a huge fucking target above their head. | ||
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