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On January 30 2011 23:28 Impervious wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 23:09 Jackal58 wrote:
Coag's insanity is contagious. Nemesis and Beneather are both the players implicated in the clues. Both almost verbatim. But you guys want to run a stretch play.
Here are the members of my bandwagon. .
Nemesis
Impervious
Coagulation
Beneather
LunarDestiny
darmousseh
Some names look really familiar don't they?
Looking at your profile, there's not much there. One big fucking obvious thing is big Ben..... Wearing a BLACK uniform and part of the STEELers football team..... Plus, you seem to be relatively inactive, and the hosts specifically mentioned that they left clues to someone who was not active during the night..... My bet is you're a SK..... It's not hard to put the pieces together, man..... There's no real band-wagonning going on..... I'm much more convinced that you're a SK than that Beneather is mafia (although it definitely looks like a possibility, so I'd probably be voting for him tomorrow - no guarantees, it'll depend on how things go).
I have 4 posts during the last night phase. I'm quite sure I was here to post any night actions I may or may not have the ability to make.
NEMESIS - 0
Beneather - 0
Put your intellect to work son. Unless of course you are driving this particular bandwagon. If you are start playing a different tune. :Send in the Clowns" is getting old.
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I saw 3. All 3 were talking about the SK.
Doesn't mean you submitted a night action though.
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Wow. I missed one post of yours in a space of, what, 10 pages?
Suddenly you're under fire and you backlash directly onto the people voting for you, rather than offer anything constructive (short of a list of who are voting for you)?
Coagulation
Beneather
LunarDestiny
darmousseh
Nemesis
You've basically listed the group that I thought were mafia, except you've added me in on that, simply because I've voted for you..... I've already voted once for Coag (I was hoping we'd get him). However, I'm starting to think that he's actually not a mafia.
If you noticed, Beneather, LunarDestiny, darmousseh, and Nemesis all voted for RoL yesterday, and we found out that it was a town kill, not a mafia kill. I agree with your analysis on them, ofc.
But they can wait.
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On January 31 2011 00:59 Impervious wrote:
Wow. I missed one post of yours in a space of, what, 10 pages?
Suddenly you're under fire and you backlash directly onto the people voting for you, rather than offer anything constructive (short of a list of who are voting for you)?
Coagulation
Beneather
LunarDestiny
darmousseh
Nemesis
You've basically listed the group that I thought were mafia, except you've added me in on that, simply because I've voted for you..... I've already voted once for Coag (I was hoping we'd get him). However, I'm starting to think that he's actually not a mafia.
If you noticed, Beneather, LunarDestiny, darmousseh, and Nemesis all voted for RoL yesterday, and we found out that it was a town kill, not a mafia kill. I agree with your analysis on them, ofc.
But they can wait.
I'm not back lashing. I've made no accusations. I've defended myself and dismissed the accusations made against me. I posted the list of people bandwagoning me to show that at least 2 of them were either suspected mafia or potential SK. The others may be guilty by association but I'm not going there yet.
Coag's "analysis" of me is based solely upon a picture. The clues point clearly at 2 members of my bandwagon. Why wouldn't I point out the other members?
You accuse me of inactivity. Yet you have zero posts during our last night phase. Pot calling the kettle black?
This entire exchange is nothing more than an attempt to shift focus.
FoS at you man.
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Jackal, stop it with the OMGUS, he's right in that clues do point to you.
Could it be possible that one of the modkills, RoL, or OriginalName was the SK, so the SK is dead already? I think next night cycle we should census the number of SKs left in the game, it would be great if we managed to nail him this early.
I'm dropping a vote on Jackal for now, he's not posting constructively + clues point to him. I'm going to throw up some analysis later, but it would be amazing if it wasn't just me + bum + Kav doing the huge analysis posts...
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I'm not sure of figuring out the SK numbers is the right move. We should be able to make an educated guess on the number of SK based on the KP used at nights. If we keep censusing the Mafia instead, we can see if we got a hit, and likely be able to narrow down our focus on other mafia as well.
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It seems to be a common theme for people to miss my mafia# announcement, so again,
MAFIA NUMBER = 5
Also, we should look at who was inactive during the night for clues about who might have been the SK... At least we can eliminate a lot of people.
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On January 31 2011 01:30 BrownBear wrote:
Jackal, stop it with the OMGUS, he's right in that clues do point to you.
Could it be possible that one of the modkills, RoL, or OriginalName was the SK, so the SK is dead already? I think next night cycle we should census the number of SKs left in the game, it would be great if we managed to nail him this early.
I'm dropping a vote on Jackal for now, he's not posting constructively + clues point to him. I'm going to throw up some analysis later, but it would be amazing if it wasn't just me + bum + Kav doing the huge analysis posts...
Defending myself is not constructive? Pointing out the members of the bandwagon, 2 of whom are obvious scum/SK, is not constructive? Pointing out that the person calling me "inactive" has ZERO posts in the time he called me inactive is not constructive? Pointing out our 2 prime candidates also had ZERO posts during night and one of them didn't post their night actions is not constructive? Pointing out an obvious shift from Nemesis and Beneather and accusing me of things that are simply not true by people that are guilty of the inactivity I've been accused of is not constructive? My god man open your eyes.
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On January 31 2011 02:01 Kavdragon wrote:
It seems to be a common theme for people to miss my mafia# announcement, so again,
MAFIA NUMBER = 5
Also, we should look at who was inactive during the night for clues about who might have been the SK... At least we can eliminate a lot of people.
Of course they missed it. They weren't here.
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On January 31 2011 02:18 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 01:30 BrownBear wrote:
Jackal, stop it with the OMGUS, he's right in that clues do point to you.
Could it be possible that one of the modkills, RoL, or OriginalName was the SK, so the SK is dead already? I think next night cycle we should census the number of SKs left in the game, it would be great if we managed to nail him this early.
I'm dropping a vote on Jackal for now, he's not posting constructively + clues point to him. I'm going to throw up some analysis later, but it would be amazing if it wasn't just me + bum + Kav doing the huge analysis posts... Defending myself is not constructive? Pointing out the members of the bandwagon, 2 of whom are obvious scum/SK, is not constructive? Pointing out that the person calling me "inactive" has ZERO posts in the time he called me inactive is not constructive? Pointing out our 2 prime candidates also had ZERO posts during night and one of them didn't post their night actions is not constructive? Pointing out an obvious shift from Nemesis and Beneather and accusing me of things that are simply not true by people that are guilty of the inactivity I've been accused of is not constructive? My god man open your eyes.
Ok. First of all, you seem to be relatively inactive through the entire game so far.
I have posts (not necessarily every day on this thread, but on TL in general) every freaking day. Usually multiple times per day as well.
Both of us haven't been posting much in this thread. However, there are some pretty obvious clues pointing to you, and you've put a FoS on me?
Dude, seriously?
I'm done with arguing this one.....
Defending yourself is one thing - coming up with a better alternative for the town is another.....
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On January 30 2011 19:56 Barundar wrote:
will targets who got medic saved be notified?
2 KP missing, would be funny if the mafia team forgot to send in their hits.
Yes. Notification is sent to both the medic and the player they saved if a hit is prevented.
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People also seem to have missed this, but I was roleblocked last night.
This means mafia definitely sent something in, at least. What seems more likely to me is this scenario:
NIGHT 1: Mafia starts out with a KP of 2. SK has a KP of 1. 3 hits are sent in, 1 is blocked.
NIGHT 2: SK was lynched, part of the mass modkill, or didn't send in his hit. Mafia sends in 2 hits, 1 is blocked. This means somebody still has to post saying "yo I took a hit last night"
Does this make sense, or am I thinking about it wrong?
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On January 31 2011 03:13 BrownBear wrote:
People also seem to have missed this, but I was roleblocked last night.
This means mafia definitely sent something in, at least. What seems more likely to me is this scenario:
NIGHT 1: Mafia starts out with a KP of 2. SK has a KP of 1. 3 hits are sent in, 1 is blocked.
NIGHT 2: SK was lynched, part of the mass modkill, or didn't send in his hit. Mafia sends in 2 hits, 1 is blocked. This means somebody still has to post saying "yo I took a hit last night"
Does this make sense, or am I thinking about it wrong?
There's still a possibility, though unlikely, that mafia has 3 kp. 2 seems more likely though. I think it was an SK who didn't send in his hit.
The other man didn’t do anything. And because the mods frown on not submitting your night action, we’re giving you clues on him even though he didn’t kill anyone.
He is referred to as man, singular, then it is "your" night action, clues on "him", and "he" didn't kill anyone. These all refer to one person. The only single killers are vig and SK, and vig doesn't have to hit night two, so it must be SK, who is still alive, and who has clues hidden in the day post.
This also tells us that there both clues referring to one of the mafia and the SK.
We also have to keep in mind the possibility that mafia hit the SK as well, for your part dealing with night 2. If that's the case, I doubt SK will claim he was hit, as medics would know they didn't protect him, it draws attention to himself, and makes the DT likely to check his alignment.
So, if we do get a claim, it means either:
A. Mafia has 2 kp
B. Mafia has 3 kp and hit SK, (or two town if another claim comes forward)
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On January 31 2011 03:13 BrownBear wrote:
People also seem to have missed this, but I was roleblocked last night.
This means mafia definitely sent something in, at least. What seems more likely to me is this scenario:
NIGHT 1: Mafia starts out with a KP of 2. SK has a KP of 1. 3 hits are sent in, 1 is blocked.
NIGHT 2: SK was lynched, part of the mass modkill, or didn't send in his hit. Mafia sends in 2 hits, 1 is blocked. This means somebody still has to post saying "yo I took a hit last night"
Does this make sense, or am I thinking about it wrong?
Yes it does makes sense, but there's two more scenarios as well.
- Mafia and SK both hit people who were protected and/or vets.
- Mafia hit SK and SK hit someone who was protected/vet.
The fact that nobody posted that they took a hit makes me think that either they are afk or SK took a hit and is being quiet about it, trying to see who will try to out him, as based on my analysis of SK strategies a few pages ago.
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That is, of course, if there were 2 SKs, since it's pretty clear that someone did not send in actions.
However, actions can also be mason/vig/protect/dt/etc.
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On January 31 2011 03:28 CubEdIn wrote:
That is, of course, if there were 2 SKs, since it's pretty clear that someone did not send in actions.
However, actions can also be mason/vig/protect/dt/etc.
Yes, but those roles aren't compelled to kill anyone, and don't have clues left behind them, implying SK, see what I wrote two posts back.
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Night 2 begins on thread post #1071
Day 3 begins on thread post # 1151
During that time 7 people made no posts.
2 made just 1
If I misspell your name my apologies.
0 posts :
GMarshall
Ilovejohn
Papapanda
Impervious
Nemesis
beneather
deconduo
1 post:
zerroth
SiNiquity
Both of those were within a few minutes of Nodes day post.
It is also very possible Mafia was all afk and the SK was the only night kp.
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On January 31 2011 03:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 03:28 CubEdIn wrote:
That is, of course, if there were 2 SKs, since it's pretty clear that someone did not send in actions.
However, actions can also be mason/vig/protect/dt/etc. Yes, but those roles aren't compelled to kill anyone, and don't have clues left behind them, implying SK, see what I wrote two posts back.
Yes, but only Mafia can role-block people, and BrownBear claimed he got RBed.
Which means that the mafia DID send in their night hits. It's unlikely that they didn't. I mean, you'd have to have all 5 people offline, otherwise mods would've PMed them or something.
And why would BrownBear claim RB?
a) he is mafia and trying to confuse the town by putting himself on the radar
b) he actually got RBed, which means mafia did send in their actions.
You are right about the clues part, but I dunno, maybe Node/LSB decided to put clues about SK BECAUSE he didn't send in night kill. Or maybe they are joking?
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On January 31 2011 03:51 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 03:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On January 31 2011 03:28 CubEdIn wrote:
That is, of course, if there were 2 SKs, since it's pretty clear that someone did not send in actions.
However, actions can also be mason/vig/protect/dt/etc. Yes, but those roles aren't compelled to kill anyone, and don't have clues left behind them, implying SK, see what I wrote two posts back. Yes, but only Mafia can role-block people, and BrownBear claimed he got RBed. Which means that the mafia DID send in their night hits. It's unlikely that they didn't. I mean, you'd have to have all 5 people offline, otherwise mods would've PMed them or something. And why would BrownBear claim RB? a) he is mafia and trying to confuse the town by putting himself on the radar b) he actually got RBed, which means mafia did send in their actions. You are right about the clues part, but I dunno, maybe Node/LSB decided to put clues about SK BECAUSE he didn't send in night kill. Or maybe they are joking?
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I'm not referring to the SK when I said roles. I believe mafia sent in their kills, but SK didn't. I'm saying the "you didn't send in actions to kill, we're giving clues about you" cannot possibly refer to the DT, Mason, Medic, etc. Also, vig does not have to hit on night 2, he can wait all game if he wants to. You implied that it might be in reference to them, when it doesn't fit the giving out clues, and having to kill someone. I meant earlier, that it implied SK was the inactive one, not the mafia, sorry for the confusion.
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