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On December 26 2010 13:41 GGQ wrote: Nope, you are the last one. I will /in as a replacement if necessary. Well I hope you get /in because I could use another friendly neighborhood bus driver :D | ||
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Anyway the votes for pandain are stupid, it's waaaay too early to have a bandwagon people (and c'mon you guys are vets for the most part). | ||
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On December 27 2010 18:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: do you really think that because that's really stupid Nothing I just always end up the center of attention in games whether I'm mafia or not and it always ends up hurting the town. No need to be so touchy, gosh it was just a joke. Several other people were making similar jokes so I don't really see why there is a problem and there's really no reason to flame out about it. Mr. Wiggles go and read through any game Drh has played... you'll see a) why drh is well known and b) why it's ironic he replaced coag. drh you are right, the attention lavished on you (as I'm doing right now) always hurts the town so I have a proposal for you, let's try and go one mafia day without you being the topic of discusion... k? | ||
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LSB you're still suspicious in my eyes but annul has been so aggresive it's more than a little discomforting. | ||
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People who have voted for Pandain. RoL: Has three posts in the actually game. One post is advising dts, one post is spam attacking LSB and one post is suggesting that Annul and LSB are both mafia who are attacking each other to distract the town. Most of what he says is good stuff, his advice to dts is good and he voices reasonable suspicions of both Annul and LSB. He has never talked about his vote for pandain but at this point I don’t think he needs to, it was most likely just a poke. However I would like to see him post a bit more, he’s generally more active and he’s pretty good when he’s town so I’d like to get his full opinion on annul/LSB (other than his crazy theory). Has since retracted his vote in favor of drh. Mr. Wiggles: has fifteen or so posts so far, most of them occurred before the day post, he’s been contributing well and he has a reason to vote for pandain and he’s already been heavily discussed in the thread so nothing overly suspicious here. Has since retracted his vote in favor of drh. Tree.hugger: has four posts in the thread, he specifically stated that his vote for pandain was a pressure vote so I’m ok with that I guess. His posts have all been calling out inactives and requesting them (specifically pandain) to post. Still has his vote on pandain. Bumatlarge: has two posts, claims he RNG his vote for pandain in one and then goes on to say that it’s suspicious how pandain has five votes in thirty minutes in the other, kinda contradictory but without more posts it’s hard to get a good read. Like RoL I’d like for bum to post more. Still has his vote on pandain. Ryuu314: has three posts all discussing the coag ban and speculating how it would affect mafia kp. Pretty noobish posts and since he was the fourth person to jump on the pandain bandwagon I’m inclined to say he’s simply a sheepish townie but of the people who voted for pandain he’s the most suspicious. Still has vote on pandain. Opz: has one post in the thread which sounds like he may have been pming with drh. Really have no read on him, LSB said his town play and scum play are indistinguishable but I’m still learning the metagame around here so I would have no idea  would like to see him post more so I can get a better read. Still has vote on pandain.That’s a brief summary of the people voting for pandain. | ||
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On December 29 2010 09:32 Insanious wrote: and the reason why we should vote for LSB being "Annul says he is red. HE IS RED!!!! KILL HIM!!!" Is any better? At least Brocket logic is Brocket is playing exactly like the mafia in the mafia game he last played. Is better logic then LSB spammed and is therefore scum... Actually I'm voting LSB becuse I had suspicions of LSB before Annul even started posting, when he came out with his comments and several people agreed with him it validated my concerns. LSB's defense has only cemented my view of him. More concerns I have is that LSB claims a blue and everyone believes him when it's the oldest trick in the book for a mafia about to get lynched. Another thing I don't like is how all of a sudden people are crawling out of the wood work to accuse people who really haven't done anything to bring suspicion on them other than acting like disinterested townies who are disapointed they didn't get a blue or red role. The case against brocket feels like a mafia attempt to pull votes and save LSB. In short, LSB had me suspicious at the start and has only gotten redder as the game has gone on. | ||
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On December 29 2010 09:33 LSB wrote: Apply metagame to your analysis of me. Eh? Something doesn't jive. I don't even know what this post means???? However you are playing similarly enough to HP mafia that if I was to apply a metagame argument I'd say you're scum. However I've not played enough games with you to make that call so I'm basing my position instead on the current game. | ||
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On December 29 2010 15:36 seRapH wrote: Also if people are worried that I'm mafia hoping to dodge RoL's analysis I'm going to be responding shortly now that khan/fox is over. As a loyal Khan fan that series made me ill  | ||
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On December 30 2010 03:45 Jackal58 wrote: How many of you receive PMs from Pandain questioning your reasons for voting? I recevied a PM from Pandain asking what I thought of certain people. | ||
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Here, this post does nothing but FoS Pandain, Annul, and my self. It tries to make Meapak_Ziphh seem useful to the town, without actually adding anything to the town. He is using good mafia analysis techniques (voting analysis) poorly (too early) to point out useless facts (everything in this thread) in order to look like he contributes without doing it. You're doing nothing but trying to rile up the town, this is an appeal to passion that will probably work well to draw in inactive votes but it really doesn't help any serious discussion. | ||
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Dude, your post makes it seem like people should be suspicious of the people you bolded. Read what you wrote and how your wrote it. You didn't say "this data means nothing but was interesting" you said "I'm making a spreadsheet to find reds, and look what I found..." you FoS'd people based on how you posted, not on what you said. But hey look, I even did what you said I did Here is some random trivia Using the words "random" and "trivia" to preface what I said normally indicates that the following information isn't really relevant but somewhat funny nontheless. Dude... I need to mention, the pandain bandwagon was going on before I made that first post that got you all wrapped up in knots. I want to say one thing quick in case anyone else got things mixed up like you did MY ABOVE POST IS NOT MEANT TO FOS ANYONE, IF I FOS YOU, I WILL TELL IT STRAIGHT AND NOT TRY AND HIDE IT. | ||
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The fact is this "Non-Relevant Trivia" could cause some players to be suspicous in other player's minds. lol wut? If it causes a player to be suspicious of someone than it is relevant. I however don't beleive what I wrote qualifies as such. The fact that pandain has voted the most times really doesn't matter. Now what does matter is who each of those votes was for but by itself it's just something funny I thought I would share. Get a grip people, if you all honestly think I'm scum because of this post than this town is dead. It was admittedly a ill timed post but the fact that we're bickering over the semantics of whether I fosd someone or not is pretty stupid especially since I've said several times that I did not intend my post to be an fos of any sort. I'll just state my fos subjects now so we can put the debate of my fos to rest. Seraph, insanious, jackal58, pandain and themango are all suspicious in some degree to me. Tomorrow I'll load my goddamn spreadsheet somewhere so everyone can see it and be satisfied that there's nothing malicious in it. | ||
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On December 31 2010 23:05 Node wrote: Holy crap, Meapak is extremely scummy. He only vaguely addresses all of the non-spreadsheet points brought up, he argues that his spreadsheet isn't scummy in and of itself (duh, of course it isn't, but what's important is the way he brought it up), and gets really over-defensive while not properly arguing the things brought up against him. He's "grasping at straws"... note how this never actually addresses the argument that's being made, it's just dismissive. And really, it's true: just because he never actually used the words "fos" doesn't mean that the purpose wasn't to call people out. I sure as hell don't bold player's names and make a post regarding their voting patterns unless I'm trying to say something about them. You're doing the same thing insanious was doing, you're just taking qoutes out of context in order to look bad, That qoute refers to what insanious was saying about me fosing all those people. I actually didn't dismiss the argument you just cleverly cut the qoute out. "Hey guys, don't pay attention to the analysis, it's just an appeal to passion". What the hell? I sure as hell didn't read Insanious' posts as an "appeal to passion". Same thing here, if you had actually been reading my post you would hav realized that I had qouted insanious and said that his qoute was an appeal to passion. I never called any of insaniou's analysis as an "appeal to passion" only the qoute which you again cleverly cut out. He's getting really over-defensive here. And anything like "xxx or this town is dead" sets off alarm bells in my head, it's basically "saaaave meeee..... for the good of the town! really! town town town!" lol I'm not saying saaaaaaaave meeee at all, I'm just saying that it's bad analysis to base your whole argument off of one post. I'm not being defensive I'm just pissed that this is the best analysis people can come up with. A really large FoS on Meapak_Ziph Other stuff, themango you are the least suspicious of the people I named there however you made my list because your posting has been very lurkeresque and I just have a bad gut feeling, nothing to make me go vote you yet but I'm watching. Due to subsequent analysis done by soulfire and why I will be switching my vote to seraph. I'll also be voting double lynch so we can snag Mr. Zergling (who it seems like he has ghost writers for some of his posts as barunder pointed out) and any possible dt finds next day. Here's my scary spreadsheet. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Avd6ntYaUwcvdER2Vlc3VGE2TDc1Y3ZMWWphYWRraGc&hl=en&authkey=CPfgpLgH Here's how you read this, the perpendicular is who voted and the horizontal is who they voted for. Have fun :D | ||
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in "all my 13 posts" more than half was pointing out obvious scum tells and the idiocy of joining and using the IRC channel. I think that's been much more beneficial than Pandain's superficial analysis that lost us one blue, and is in danger of losing another right now. This was made when you were under pressure so I was curious if you were trying to claim blue to defend yourself. | ||
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I don't think pandain is scummy anymore and I'm 100% sure barundar is legit so my vote is going on mango because I've always found him to be inexplicably scummy along with his vote for barundar. And mr. zergling who is probably the most obvious scum we have right now. | ||
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On January 04 2011 08:58 ShoCkeyy wrote: And of course this "town circle" is the rest of the mafia. They're trying to confuse you guys by saying they're doing good and instead they're not. And about Annul, it's pretty easy to go attacking the very own mafia member to not seem "scummy" How is attacking the godfather a good idea? If you really think they're scum prove it. At this point they're some of the only people scum hunting in the thread. Until you start pitching in I'd say pandain and barundar are way more town then you. | ||
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On January 04 2011 09:57 ShoCkeyy wrote: Because the godfather was going down either way... Might as well as jump in on the bandwagon and just play along to not be considered "scum"... The votes were tied, it would have been pretty easy for one or two to jump ship and kill orgo without being suspicious. | ||
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On January 04 2011 10:52 seRapH wrote: How is that confusing? Mafia is down to four, their KP reduced to 2. Add in a vigi or a roleblock and it makes sense. It's not confirmed though. This just makes you look scummier. | ||
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On January 04 2011 11:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: It's not confirmed though. This just makes you look scummier. EBWOP. I'm not arguing about KP, I beleive opz however we don't know that the number remaining is four. | ||
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I know I'm going to get jumped all over by Insanious for this post but when I flip town people will go back and read this and I'll be vindicated. I'd also like everyone to know that I will not change my vote from any of these four however I will change amongst them if I have a chance to save myself. | ||
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It doesn't "prove" you in the strictest sense however you will have a dead green (me) and a dead red (whoever else gets lynched) to vindicate your position to the people who are voting you, same goes for pandain. I'd also like to add an addendum to my earlier post and say that I think Mr. Wiggles and LunarDestiny are town as well. | ||
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On January 04 2011 14:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ok we need to consolidate our votes on these four people, Mr. Zergling, Darth, TheMango, and Seraph. I know a lot of people aren't going to unvote me but Insanious TheMango, Brocket, Pandain need to unvote their junk lynches and work on the reds we have. Also we should vote for double lynch again. We're going to get a red today possibly two if people unvote me. However if I do die this should prove several more people as town. People need to work with opz, he's confirmed. People should also work with Barundar and Pandain. Other than the people I've already mentioned as confirmed, I believe why and orgolove are also town. Our DT's and medics should double claim to both opz and Barundar/Pandain to ensure that the information is in safe hands. We've almost completely forgot about the MH role in all this excitment but who ever this is should have bombs on any of the four people above. If we lynch a red today, and the MH moves a bomb onto our two or three remaining suspects and then we double lynch tomorrow we can kill the MH and the remaining mafia if assuming there are four (and assuming the MH has his bombs placed well). I know I'm going to get jumped all over by Insanious for this post but when I flip town people will go back and read this and I'll be vindicated. I'd also like everyone to know that I will not change my vote from any of these four however I will change amongst them if I have a chance to save myself. Remeber this post. I don't feel like posting after death so this will be my goodbye post. Really bad game on my part, I definetly played the sloppiest game of my short TL mafia career. Town can still win this, we have all the pieces in place it'll just be a matter of showing the mafia the power and they'll have no choice but to concede. Boy it's going to be fun flipping :D GG | ||
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On January 14 2011 15:35 orgolove wrote: Yeah. That's it. I've had enough of TL mafia. Well ok so your ranting and raving for the past several pages has really pissed me off. You have unnecessarily flamed people in both this game and the team melee mini mafia. You've fallen so far to use ad hominem attacks and been unable to maintain any appearence of civility. You've raged at people for sheeping or being afk in both games however you yourself have barely been active and when being called out about being inactive you've flamed those people. When you were killed last game you proceded to rage out causing several people to call you out and you promptly flamed them. In this game several people have asked you to calm down and you've either ignored them or further flamed them. I know I have absolutly no authority here however your behavior just pushed me over the edge. I know that it's up to Qatol to deal with these sort of situations and if he thinks this post is out of line then I'll be more than happy to delete it but I for one will not be signing up for any games you in which you choose to participate in the future. /Rage | ||
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On January 14 2011 16:07 orgolove wrote: I count -two- total posts of me "ranting" in the past three pages. The rest were analysis of vote patterns and trying to convince the rest of the town to vote the right people. What, did those two posts hurt your ego so much? Try harder. "ad hominem" lol, I called Pandain an idiot for being a fucking idiot. A sense of civility does not preclude one from calling a dumbass out for being one. Where the -hell- did I flame people for calling me inactive? In the first few pages of this, I clearly explained that I've been busy with holidays and the turn of the year. Once flamewheel pmed me to be more active, I tried to be such. I don't see anywhere I flamed specifically for people calling me inactive, unless the originator was hypocritical. I made ONE post that game after death. ONE. It was a response to, again, ONE player who called me out, after death, and the primary purpose of that post was to point out that kicking a dead horse is kinda, not fair, since I can't reply to them. Nowhere did I "flame" without reason. Rebirth was the only one that asked me to calm me down. And as I wrote above, I spent a total of TWO posts where I flamed pandain for being a dumbass. After that I went right back into the game. Actually read over the page before wasting my time like this. And you say what Fishball and Foolishness did is "calming someone down"? Calling someone a fool is, objectively, a pretty bad way to calm someone down, don't you think? Hell, if that was his nice way of telling someone to calm down, I'd hate to see what his mean way would be. Every post after my few discussions with Shockeyy has been responses to -other- non-participants in the game who incited this conflict further instead of letting us get back into the discussion of the game itself. If that hurts your ego so much that you post a full on flame with zero content to the game, then I'm sorry for any future players who will play in your games. lol | ||
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On January 17 2011 14:03 Pandain wrote: !!!! I still don't see how in the least bit that hurt the town. At the most it made me seem more suspicious, but that's it. The town was preoccupied for days over this, entire pages are taken up discussing whether or not you were telling the truth. You being the center of attention took a LOT of time away from actual scum hunting. Edit: lol wow nice ninja GGQ... | ||
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On January 17 2011 16:41 Barundar wrote: Just want to say thanks to ver and foolishness for taking the time to answer stupid theories and give advice. I think town lost it when we stopped analysing and started to hunt based on votes/mistakes and activity level. Those three are a killer combination I'm speaking from experience here lol. | ||
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