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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 07:16:50
December 24 2010 07:16 GMT
#71
PMs are allowed? =o ruh roh
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 31 2010 02:21 GMT
#827
someone fill me in imo imo imo
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 31 2010 18:01 GMT
#873
so, from what I've read on this last page, seraph and mr. zergling are suspected to be mafia? and the analysis doesnt look bad, esp. the one on zergling.

also, TheMango is definitely red. Look at his name ^^;
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 01 2011 03:57 GMT
#894
Voting orgolove because 1) I'll be on the road tomorrow and dunno when I'll be back on after tonight. 2) If Pandain isn't lying, his point about playstyles is right, and 3) If he is lying, I'll leave that to someone else to point out . Plus his defense was terrible. Quoting two of someone's posts and implying all they do is spam is a really poor logic.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 01 2011 04:20 GMT
#896
On January 01 2011 13:04 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2011 10:25 Pandain wrote:
Also everyone should get on IRC ##bamboo palace so I can talk to people faster -.-


Wow.

Opening an IRC channel in the main thread free for all the reds to view - really a great idea lol...

? You serious? It's exactly the same as the main thread, except the "posts" will be shorter, and more frequent. Why are you against discussion?
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 03 2011 10:50 GMT
#1061
What just happened? Did Opz ever say who he was going to hit?

Wouldn't be surprised if Opz hit Node and mafia stacked RoL.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 03 2011 18:31 GMT
#1083
guys, don't waste your time on me. zzz.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 03 2011 21:16 GMT
#1087
On January 04 2011 03:39 Barundar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 03:31 DarthThienAn wrote:
guys, don't waste your time on me. zzz.

Believe me, I don't want to. Didn't you afk your way to get mislynched by DrH in Salem? Don't make it so hard on towns that wants to win please

Nah DrH was just taking revenge that game cuz I was like "you bad" and then he was like "why me bad" and I was like "you bad" and he was like "Darth #1 Scum lynch plz"

And orly. Why would I believe you ^^.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 04 2011 06:14 GMT
#1130
Opz, stop worrying so much about roleclaims, and just hunt scum. blues, go talk to Opz, he's confirmed.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 04 2011 12:11 GMT
#1148
On January 04 2011 17:26 orgolove wrote:
Oh, I ask for two things:

1. ~OpZ~, did you explain your vig hit? What happened and why did a vet die? Did you hit RoL as well or what?
2. Meapak - if you continue to claim green, can you explain why you changed your vote from annul when his vote got close with my total during day 2? And according to a bird, you had gone to IRC and scolded people for voting on annul. What's with that?

Learn to spell my name bro. And you haven't found much on me because I replaced partway into day 2, and haven't posted much because I can only react to things posted recently.

But anyway, Opz admitted to hitting RoL, so that means mafia targeted RoL/Node last night.

Assuming you're not mafia, if Mr. Zergling took that initiative to PM you outside of thread, I'd buy it. I'll be around for the next few hours and watch the votes to see I need to send my vote anywhere else, just looking to save myself atm.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 05 2011 10:20 GMT
#1192
My computer's currently broken (on a friend's) - hopefully, I'll be able to go get it fixed in the morning =[.

Thoughts:
I didn't think Meapak was mafia (didn't know/care about GC), but I thought it'd be worse to have 10 townies suddenly change their votes, and then we lose a day's worth of information.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 05 2011 22:05 GMT
#1207
From what I've seen, people I don't think are mafia:
opz, zergling, orgolove, lunardestiny, wiggles, barundar, GGQ


possible mafia:
seraph, insanious, pandain, d3, tree, shockeyy, jackal58

Since I was asked to look at GGQ specifically, here's some analysis:

He hasn't posted too much, but he hasn't done anything scummy either, either than lack of posting I guess. Could be worse. Most of what he said day 1 is pretty logical and generic stuff, not a tell for either side.


On December 28 2010 13:24 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2010 10:15 Jackal58 wrote:
I'm a bit hesitant to ask because I was immediately labeled a smurf in the HP game and got offed on the first night.


Yeah my bad. I was bus driver and redirected a mafia kill to you. You died to save a detective, though!

LSB's advice in this game has been very similar to his posts in the pokemafia game where he was town, but he's gotten into an argument here which he carefully avoided in that game. I know he gave a reason for that already, but I think that it's not a good enough reason for this whole drawn-out argument. I'm not ready to vote for him, but it's worth noting. I don't know why annul is so focused on him. It was good to bring his spamminess to everyone's attention so he would be under the town's focus and forced to post more constructively, but it's not good to be tunnel-visioning him already.

If this argument gets too much focus then everyone else will fly under the radar.

This post, he's defending LSB and accusing annul subtly. Well, accusing is a strong word for it, but he's calling annul out for sure, while offering LSB some defense.


On December 29 2010 03:23 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 03:18 annul wrote:
in sengoku, i claimed guerilla. i said i would PROVE it the next day, if they decided to take their lynch off of me.

they did.

it was the smarter move to not blow the power the next day, so i didnt. they still had no idea if i was guerilla or not.


But you were, in fact, a guerilla? How is that helping your argument here?

Here he calls out annul for bad posting.


On December 29 2010 04:48 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 00:33 LSB wrote:
On December 28 2010 17:18 Barundar wrote:
On December 28 2010 16:50 GGQ wrote:
On December 28 2010 16:40 LSB wrote:
On December 28 2010 05:18 LSB wrote:
On December 28 2010 05:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LSB; while Annul doesn't have a very strong case against you, your defense was pretty pathetic. I've had a bad gut feeling about you for a while, it's not something I was planning on voting on but Annul did bring out all of the problems I had been having with your posts. I'm not voting you quite yet but I would like you to give more than one line answers whenever someone puts a fos on you. Consider this post a +1 for Annul's case against LSB. I'd like to see you take some time in defending yourself and not just brush it off because there were some good points in annul's post.

Give me a point to address then.

Bump.


Why did you OMGUS vote annul when I'm sure you know that's a common scumtell?


... and why did you vote for him while you kept trying to make town look for inactives? Shouldn't you be trying to convince people to your case if you where certain enough to vote?

In pokemafia, you said "I was very protective of my Shockeyy lynch", when someone suggested another possible mafia lynch. Now you are fine with the town splitting up attention. How would you explain this change in play style?

OMGUS: The point is, lets say I do an analysis of you, and its all lies. Wouldn't you be suspicious of me?
It would be selfish of me to not do anything about it. As a townie I have a responsibility to attack Annul, even though it may be a bit scummy


Inactives: In case you haven't noticed, I've been dealing with the inactives using blue roles.
I proposed we deal with inactives by a combination of DT checks and mass cover by everyone allowing the DTs to safely .
The thing is, this plan was immediatly dismissed by people who probably didn't read the thread. All they say is "well, lets not rely on DTs".

In addition, as I've said, we should lynch an inactive only when there iw no obvious mafia canditdate. Given that I found a obvious mafia candidate...


I'm unsatisfied with this answer. No, if you did an analysis of me and FOSed me as mafia when I'm not, that in and of itself would not make me any more suspicious of you. In fact, active scumhunting would make you more likely to be town. As for his analysis being 'all lies', I don't see any lies in his analysis post. You may disagree with his opinions, or think his logic is weak, but that doesn't make him mafia. If you are town, you're the only one who knows that so it doesn't make sense to vote for someone just because they voted for you.

What really worries me about this lynch is that besides deconduo there hasn't really been anyone trying to divert the lynch, so either LSB is town or his buddies are abandoning him.

Brings up several good points about posting styles. Be wary of people that post like town, but don't do any scumhunting. Unforunately, LSB ended up beign town anyway, but these are all valid points.


On December 29 2010 13:07 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 12:09 Insanious wrote:Anything by me should also be ignored... since I was defending the blue.


I don't particularly FOS you, but it should be pointed out that this doesn't clear you by a long shot. Mafia knows better than anyone who is clear, and it's very easy for them to buddy a townie to appear clean when he flips.

As for annul and pandain, we shouldn't lynch them just because they are wrong. But we also shouldn't let them get away too easily. Some people have suggested that they wouldn't be so bold if they were mafia. But with the godfather and the framer(s) to mess with the DTs, mafia can afford to be pretty bold this game.

Pointing out the possibility of annul being godfather... big no no if he was mafia.


On December 31 2010 04:20 GGQ wrote:
I feel that I should reveal this information since mafia already knows it; I was roleblocked last night.

I just read through the entire thread again and here are my thoughts:

-Pandain doesn't seem like scum to me, just a flip-flopping townie.

-Brockett narrowly avoided a lynch and still hasn't contributed anything. Much fewer posts and different posting style than his townie play in Pokemafia

-I'm still suspicious of TheMango but don't have solid reasoning for it

-I am pretty confident that ROL is town, but I dont necessarily agree with all his picks for mafia

-Insanious doesn't seem scummy to me. People keep saying that he was 'so sure' LSB was blue, but if you actually read his posts, that's not what he was saying

-I'm on the fence about annul. I always thought his tunneling on LSB was stupid, but that doesn't make him mafia. He certainly could be, though

-I'm most suspicious atm of Seraph (as ROL pointed out) and Mr Wiggles. While reading, I noticed that all of Mr Wiggles posts are riddled with uncertainty, fear, and unwillingness to commit. He may be a newer player, but it still makes me very susicious of him. My vote goes on him for now

He got roleblocked. No one counterclaimed, right? And while it's possible that mafia dodged their first roleblock to make GGQ seem more legitimate, combine this with his other posts, and it's very very very likely that GGQ is town.


On January 03 2011 03:43 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 01:40 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On January 02 2011 23:57 Brocket wrote:
Is there such a thing as 'too good'? RoL is getting a lot of unsavory attention.

I don't think Annul played properly and case in point he admits he's mafia before the day's news is published. Don't you guys want to see who RoL wants to suspect next before trying to kick him out? I guess the relevant people I'm talking to are medics, dt's and vigilantes for the night phase.

I mean, crazy ideas like RoL actually being mafia sounds so preposterous it might be true but it's definitely not 100%. I'm actually going to stand up for RoL because I can't comprehend him being mafia. Maybe it's my lack of imagination.

I'll suspect him if he starts using his credibility to make bad decisions like lynching no mafia for the rest of the game or bringing out more blue role claims.

Well if RoL goes for me, he's mafia. I'll openly claim my role, if someone's willing to help me decide.


How does someone going for you make them mafia?

Barundar just added me to his suspects list, but I don't think he's mafia one little bit.

Gotta love logic.






Anyway, conclusion: GGQ is 90% town to me.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 05 2011 22:08 GMT
#1208
EBWOP:

I forgot to state explicity the general theme of my analysis: GGQ called annul out/brought attention to annul WAY too much to be mafia. At least in my opinion, as a mafia, you don't call out your teammates, except maybe once or twice for the whole game (unless they're already a lost cause/getting bused). And the likelihood of annul getting bused this game is pretty low, because he was their godfather pick. It's a little extreme to throw that advantage away this early. So, the fact that GGQ was on annul's case early makes me think that he's town.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 06 2011 17:46 GMT
#1226
I'll agree that it doesn't look like ShoCkeyy has contributed much at all.

For those PMs, keep in mind that the last day's wagon was essentially between 3 townies (from my perspective). So there was no reason for the mafia to do anything too crazy because they didn't need to protect anyone really.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 06 2011 17:47 GMT
#1227
Voting to start it off, but I should be on a couple more times before the day ends.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 08 2011 23:54 GMT
#1301
On January 09 2011 08:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 07:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On January 09 2011 04:49 Barundar wrote:
He fake claimed it?

I don't know. You don't read a confirmed townies posts?


I'm just wondering what the reasoning or logic is behind it. What is the proof that he fake-claimed it?

Without giving any specifics, do you have a solid reason for believing he lied, as in actual evidence, not just a hunch?

My guess is that he said so himself. lol.

3 veterans is pretty crazy. Really reduces the expected number of medics that we have.

esp with a framer, a godfather, and an alleged roleblocker, we should still have some blues though. KP tells us that there are 3 mafia left 99% sure.

Do we have any vigilantes? I wouldn't mind seeing any of Shockeyy/Pandain/orgolove hit tonight to clear things up. Esp. Shockeyy since the others are iffy.

If we have a DT, he better be in contact with Opz, so that we can get some information out. With... 3? 4? checks down, we'll have this game in the bag I think.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 09 2011 04:56 GMT
#1308
List of currently alive players:
6. TheMango
7. Mr.Zergling
8. why
9. Jackal58

11. Barundar

15. ShoCkeyy

17. ilovejonn

19. Orgolove
20. Pandain

24. d3_crescentia

27. Soulfire

29. DarthThienAn
30. ~OpZ~


13 total, so 10 vs 3 imo -

Considering that no blues are dead still, I'd say Opz is pretty confirmed.

My mafia list from before still stands (minus dead): pandain, d3, shockeyy, jackal58


havent heard from TheMango in awhile o.o is he still in the game?
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 10 2011 21:14 GMT
#1336
Ya let's lynch DTA.

What will his death tell us when he flips town? That... he had such and such an opinion.

okay.


Why aren't we lynching ShoCkeyy or Pandain?
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 10 2011 22:37 GMT
#1340
On January 11 2011 07:23 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 06:14 DarthThienAn wrote:
Ya let's lynch DTA.

What will his death tell us when he flips town? That... he had such and such an opinion.

okay.


Why aren't we lynching ShoCkeyy or Pandain?

Cuz roleblocker's existence was confirmed by GGQ. Either mafia are insane, and had framer and thought no DT was in the game (doesn't make sense), and wasted several days of Roleblocking by blocking only Pandain, OR NOT BLOCKING AT ALL <---- Does not make sense.

So....With that said...Either Pandain is an evil genius and called NO DT in game, or he is town. I'd lynch barundar.

I'm fine lynching you. You posted an analysis of GGQ....then he died, what, a few hours later? Yea. Where has your analysis like that been? Not in this game. You need to go. Even if your town, you haven't been useful at all.


Opz #1 scumhunter. Making great use of your status as a confirmed role.

And what happens when you mislynch, putting town at 7v3 after night? Eh, whatever. Have fun.


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