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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
December 31 2010 05:05 GMT
#844
Hey guys. I just finished compiling a very long and very interesting spread sheet analyzing the voting patterns. I'll share it once it has been proofed and I might wait for a few more votes so it will be even more useful. It doesn't tell me anything conclusive right now but for those with the time I'd encourage everyone to read the voting thread in it's entirity. There's some fascinating stuff there that. Here is some random trivia: Do you know who has voted the most? If my numbers are correct (don't take my word yet I'm still checking everything) the answer to this question is Pandain coming in on top with 6 votes. Do you wanna know who has been voted for the most? Ironically enough if you discount our first lynch target who was voted for by 12 different people, Pandain is the most voted for living person with 10 votes. Oh I've got lots of fun facts. Do you know how many people were the only vote on their target when the votes were tallied? The answer is.... five people were the only votes on their target when the voting ended. Who was the first vote for LSB? How about Brocket? Well those awards go toAnnul and Insanious. I've only just started but before I'm done I'm sure I'll have lots more fun trivia and maybe a few reds for everyone :D
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
December 31 2010 05:48 GMT
#853
Excuse me? I never fos'd any of those people who I mentioned in my above post. It's just pointing out stuff I found when looking for patterns in the voting thread which I thought were funny. Out of all the people who voted against LSB because you do seem pretty red to me. I didn't attack you BECAUSE you supported LSB but HOW you supported LSB. I don't know how you think I was the first person to fos LSB, my comment was more tongue and cheek and if you consider that an fos then I might as well have fos'd pandain as well. You my friend are actually the one trying to confuse the town, I never said I suspected any of the people I mentioned in my above post. You're putting words in my mouth and making it sound like I have some scary secret I'm keeping from the town. If people really want I'll find somewhere to upload this big scary thing so everyone can see it (I'll give you a hint, it's just a spread sheet showing who voted who).
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
December 31 2010 05:58 GMT
#855
oh wow insanious I saw your other post. You're really grasping at straws right now. All you've been doing is putting words in my mouth claiming I've fos'd a whole bunch of people. Well I've got some news for you, this is stuff that ANYONE can find out. You do have a point, I shouldn't have talked about this until later in the game when this could have been slightly more useful. Shoot me I blew the timing but let's get back to more important things such as me fosing all these people. You are getting really aggressive right now and trying your hardest to paint me as scum. Let me qoute this
Here, this post does nothing but FoS Pandain, Annul, and my self. It tries to make Meapak_Ziphh seem useful to the town, without actually adding anything to the town. He is using good mafia analysis techniques (voting analysis) poorly (too early) to point out useless facts (everything in this thread) in order to look like he contributes without doing it.
You're doing nothing but trying to rile up the town, this is an appeal to passion that will probably work well to draw in inactive votes but it really doesn't help any serious discussion.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
December 31 2010 06:07 GMT
#856
lol you say
Dude, your post makes it seem like people should be suspicious of the people you bolded. Read what you wrote and how your wrote it. You didn't say "this data means nothing but was interesting" you said "I'm making a spreadsheet to find reds, and look what I found..." you FoS'd people based on how you posted, not on what you said.

But hey look, I even did what you said I did
Here is some random trivia

Using the words "random" and "trivia" to preface what I said normally indicates that the following information isn't really relevant but somewhat funny nontheless.

Dude... I need to mention, the pandain bandwagon was going on before I made that first post that got you all wrapped up in knots.

I want to say one thing quick in case anyone else got things mixed up like you did MY ABOVE POST IS NOT MEANT TO FOS ANYONE, IF I FOS YOU, I WILL TELL IT STRAIGHT AND NOT TRY AND HIDE IT.

Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
December 31 2010 07:14 GMT
#860
The fact is this "Non-Relevant Trivia" could cause some players to be suspicous in other player's minds.

lol wut?
If it causes a player to be suspicious of someone than it is relevant. I however don't beleive what I wrote qualifies as such. The fact that pandain has voted the most times really doesn't matter. Now what does matter is who each of those votes was for but by itself it's just something funny I thought I would share.

Get a grip people, if you all honestly think I'm scum because of this post than this town is dead. It was admittedly a ill timed post but the fact that we're bickering over the semantics of whether I fosd someone or not is pretty stupid especially since I've said several times that I did not intend my post to be an fos of any sort.

I'll just state my fos subjects now so we can put the debate of my fos to rest. Seraph, insanious, jackal58, pandain and themango are all suspicious in some degree to me. Tomorrow I'll load my goddamn spreadsheet somewhere so everyone can see it and be satisfied that there's nothing malicious in it.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
December 31 2010 22:36 GMT
#881
Let's go over this real quick.

On December 31 2010 23:05 Node wrote:
Holy crap, Meapak is extremely scummy. He only vaguely addresses all of the non-spreadsheet points brought up, he argues that his spreadsheet isn't scummy in and of itself (duh, of course it isn't, but what's important is the way he brought it up), and gets really over-defensive while not properly arguing the things brought up against him.

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On December 31 2010 14:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:You're really grasping at straws right now. All you've been doing is putting words in my mouth claiming I've fos'd a whole bunch of people.


He's "grasping at straws"... note how this never actually addresses the argument that's being made, it's just dismissive. And really, it's true: just because he never actually used the words "fos" doesn't mean that the purpose wasn't to call people out. I sure as hell don't bold player's names and make a post regarding their voting patterns unless I'm trying to say something about them.

You're doing the same thing insanious was doing, you're just taking qoutes out of context in order to look bad, That qoute refers to what insanious was saying about me fosing all those people. I actually didn't dismiss the argument you just cleverly cut the qoute out.
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On December 31 2010 14:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:You're doing nothing but trying to rile up the town, this is an appeal to passion that will probably work well to draw in inactive votes but it really doesn't help any serious discussion.


"Hey guys, don't pay attention to the analysis, it's just an appeal to passion". What the hell? I sure as hell didn't read Insanious' posts as an "appeal to passion".

Same thing here, if you had actually been reading my post you would hav realized that I had qouted insanious and said that his qoute was an appeal to passion. I never called any of insaniou's analysis as an "appeal to passion" only the qoute which you again cleverly cut out.
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On December 31 2010 16:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Get a grip people, if you all honestly think I'm scum because of this post than this town is dead. It was admittedly a ill timed post but the fact that we're bickering over the semantics of whether I fosd someone or not is pretty stupid especially since I've said several times that I did not intend my post to be an fos of any sort.


He's getting really over-defensive here. And anything like "xxx or this town is dead" sets off alarm bells in my head, it's basically "saaaave meeee..... for the good of the town! really! town town town!"

lol I'm not saying saaaaaaaave meeee at all, I'm just saying that it's bad analysis to base your whole argument off of one post. I'm not being defensive I'm just pissed that this is the best analysis people can come up with.
A really large FoS on Meapak_Ziph



Other stuff, themango you are the least suspicious of the people I named there however you made my list because your posting has been very lurkeresque and I just have a bad gut feeling, nothing to make me go vote you yet but I'm watching.

Due to subsequent analysis done by soulfire and why I will be switching my vote to seraph. I'll also be voting double lynch so we can snag Mr. Zergling (who it seems like he has ghost writers for some of his posts as barunder pointed out) and any possible dt finds next day.

Here's my scary spreadsheet. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Avd6ntYaUwcvdER2Vlc3VGE2TDc1Y3ZMWWphYWRraGc&hl=en&authkey=CPfgpLgH Here's how you read this, the perpendicular is who voted and the horizontal is who they voted for. Have fun :D
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
December 31 2010 22:37 GMT
#882
Screwed up the format as usual >_>
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 03 2011 02:22 GMT
#1026
That PM was a response to this
in "all my 13 posts" more than half was pointing out obvious scum tells and the idiocy of joining and using the IRC channel. I think that's been much more beneficial than Pandain's superficial analysis that lost us one blue, and is in danger of losing another right now.

This was made when you were under pressure so I was curious if you were trying to claim blue to defend yourself.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 03 2011 15:31 GMT
#1078
Ok to explain my last second voting drama. I was in irc with pandain, and everyone else who is cool enough to hang out there. Barundar and I are talking and then pandain just jumps all over me with questions about orgolove and annul (at this point I think pandain was still voting orgo). I'm like ok whatever so I answer but he wont respond when I ask him questions. Pandain was trying to get me to vote orgo through pm and irc but I thought orgo was innocent based on the fact that there was never a counterbandwago. Pandain didn't like this reason and he's getting pretty aggressive and then he switches his vote to annul saying something like "I wanna control this lynch" this sounded so scummy to me so I checked the votes and saw that this put annul one vote ahead of orgo. I didn't want pandain to have hammer power over the whole lynch so I switched to seraph because at this point I didn't want to be part of that mess. However after subsequent discussion with Barundar, a desire not to be left out of the action and a conviction that Orgo was town made me switch me vote back to annul.

I don't think pandain is scummy anymore and I'm 100% sure barundar is legit so my vote is going on mango because I've always found him to be inexplicably scummy along with his vote for barundar. And mr. zergling who is probably the most obvious scum we have right now.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 04 2011 00:20 GMT
#1097
On January 04 2011 08:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:
And of course this "town circle" is the rest of the mafia. They're trying to confuse you guys by saying they're doing good and instead they're not. And about Annul, it's pretty easy to go attacking the very own mafia member to not seem "scummy"

How is attacking the godfather a good idea? If you really think they're scum prove it. At this point they're some of the only people scum hunting in the thread. Until you start pitching in I'd say pandain and barundar are way more town then you.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 04 2011 01:03 GMT
#1100
On January 04 2011 09:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On January 04 2011 09:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On January 04 2011 08:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:
And of course this "town circle" is the rest of the mafia. They're trying to confuse you guys by saying they're doing good and instead they're not. And about Annul, it's pretty easy to go attacking the very own mafia member to not seem "scummy"

How is attacking the godfather a good idea? If you really think they're scum prove it. At this point they're some of the only people scum hunting in the thread. Until you start pitching in I'd say pandain and barundar are way more town then you.


Because the godfather was going down either way... Might as well as jump in on the bandwagon and just play along to not be considered "scum"...

The votes were tied, it would have been pretty easy for one or two to jump ship and kill orgo without being suspicious.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 04 2011 02:13 GMT
#1109
On January 04 2011 10:52 seRapH wrote:
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On January 04 2011 10:48 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'm actually kind of confused. Night one three died. And last night 2, but I hit RoL....So mafia two stacked RoL? Did a medic save?

Barundar would of known I was hitting RoL...So i don't know...

Pandain asked me to hit Darth instead.

From: Pandain [ 2845 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: mmm
Date: 1/3/11 07:28
remember: shoot darth

How is that confusing? Mafia is down to four, their KP reduced to 2. Add in a vigi or a roleblock and it makes sense.

It's not confirmed though. This just makes you look scummier.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 04 2011 02:15 GMT
#1110
On January 04 2011 11:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 10:52 seRapH wrote:
On January 04 2011 10:48 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'm actually kind of confused. Night one three died. And last night 2, but I hit RoL....So mafia two stacked RoL? Did a medic save?

Barundar would of known I was hitting RoL...So i don't know...

Pandain asked me to hit Darth instead.

From: Pandain [ 2845 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: mmm
Date: 1/3/11 07:28
remember: shoot darth

How is that confusing? Mafia is down to four, their KP reduced to 2. Add in a vigi or a roleblock and it makes sense.

It's not confirmed though. This just makes you look scummier.

EBWOP. I'm not arguing about KP, I beleive opz however we don't know that the number remaining is four.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 04 2011 03:03 GMT
#1115
Two people died, a townie and a vet. That requires three hits. The mafia has two KP. Opz has one KP. One plus two equals three. There is no counter claim. Opz is town QED. Unless the mafia did a shot in the dark roleblocked. We already know pandain was blocked. There are probably not two roleblockers. Logic and probability say opz is town.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#1124
Ok we need to consolidate our votes on these four people, Mr. Zergling, Darth, TheMango, and Seraph. I know a lot of people aren't going to unvote me but Insanious TheMango, Brocket, Pandain need to unvote their junk lynches and work on the reds we have. Also we should vote for double lynch again. We're going to get a red today possibly two if people unvote me. However if I do die this should prove several more people as town. People need to work with opz, he's confirmed. People should also work with Barundar and Pandain. Other than the people I've already mentioned as confirmed, I believe why and orgolove are also town. Our DT's and medics should double claim to both opz and Barundar/Pandain to ensure that the information is in safe hands. We've almost completely forgot about the MH role in all this excitment but who ever this is should have bombs on any of the four people above. If we lynch a red today, and the MH moves a bomb onto our two or three remaining suspects and then we double lynch tomorrow we can kill the MH and the remaining mafia if assuming there are four (and assuming the MH has his bombs placed well).

I know I'm going to get jumped all over by Insanious for this post but when I flip town people will go back and read this and I'll be vindicated.

I'd also like everyone to know that I will not change my vote from any of these four however I will change amongst them if I have a chance to save myself.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 04 2011 06:26 GMT
#1132
On January 04 2011 15:20 Barundar wrote:
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On January 04 2011 14:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok we need to consolidate our votes on these four people, Mr. Zergling, Darth, TheMango, and Seraph. I know a lot of people aren't going to unvote me but Insanious TheMango, Brocket, Pandain need to unvote their junk lynches and work on the reds we have. Also we should vote for double lynch again. We're going to get a red today possibly two if people unvote me. However if I do die this should prove several more people as town. People need to work with opz, he's confirmed. People should also work with Barundar and Pandain. Other than the people I've already mentioned as confirmed, I believe why and orgolove are also town. Our DT's and medics should double claim to both opz and Barundar/Pandain to ensure that the information is in safe hands. We've almost completely forgot about the MH role in all this excitment but who ever this is should have bombs on any of the four people above. If we lynch a red today, and the MH moves a bomb onto our two or three remaining suspects and then we double lynch tomorrow we can kill the MH and the remaining mafia if assuming there are four (and assuming the MH has his bombs placed well).

I know I'm going to get jumped all over by Insanious for this post but when I flip town people will go back and read this and I'll be vindicated.

I'd also like everyone to know that I will not change my vote from any of these four however I will change amongst them if I have a chance to save myself.

I fail to see how you dieing proves me?

It doesn't "prove" you in the strictest sense however you will have a dead green (me) and a dead red (whoever else gets lynched) to vindicate your position to the people who are voting you, same goes for pandain.

I'd also like to add an addendum to my earlier post and say that I think Mr. Wiggles and LunarDestiny are town as well.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 04 2011 07:06 GMT
#1134
lol if you're afraid of looking red because I flip red then jump on board my bandwagon, we're serving cheap beer 99¢ nachos and the dance floor is open till 2 am. If you are honestly that afraid of me flipping red then there's no better time than now to vote Meapak_Ziphh and lock in your townie guarantee at the phenomenally low price of one green. But seriously dude, to you and all the others who say I look desperate, would I be that desperate to call out me whole scum team? If you don't think these people are scum then by golly who do you think is? Aside from me of course. Actually this goes to anyone, do you have a better target than any of these four I named?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 04 2011 07:17 GMT
#1137
How did I call you mafia lol
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 04 2011 07:19 GMT
#1138
Oh and heres your beer :Beer:
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
January 04 2011 07:20 GMT
#1139
Crap
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