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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
December 22 2010 21:22 GMT
#43
/in, if there's room.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 05 2011 02:07 GMT
#170
I assume plan-creation will pick up more once alignment PMs are sent out, but until then we all agree that claiming numbers is a bad idea right?
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 06 2011 21:58 GMT
#189
/confirm
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 07 2011 19:05 GMT
#252
I'd love to see a better plan than LSB's put together, but if one doesn't pop up before the draft order comes out then I'm just going to go along with LSB's. I can't imagine that just randomly picking roles without any significant oversight is going to be better than keeping tabs on everyone, since there are a few incredibly strong roles that mafia could pick up.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 08 2011 00:09 GMT
#272
I'm with LSB on this one, Jimbo's plan isn't any better than his. Assigning roles we NEED to know the location of to the middle of the pack means that if scum sneaks in closer to the top and steals it there are a lot of potential places it could be. I don't really see what saying 'alright you six pick pro-town roles' accomplishes versus just laying out specific roles for each person to pick. Mafia knows exactly who they want to kill in the second case so we'd lose roles that way, but in the first there's a lot of potential for clashing so we'd be losing roles right off the bat. Either way mafia's going to be targeting that group first and we're going to be protecting them first, so we might as well make sure they're as useful as possible if we're going to use a plan like this.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 09 2011 03:46 GMT
#309
I randomed [2][3]
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 09 2011 21:35 GMT
#376
...has anyone sent in roles? If they have, they should be unset and the deadline should be pushed back 12 hours or so.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 10 2011 01:17 GMT
#393
I'll be taking alignment cop.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 11 2011 00:43 GMT
#469
Fish if you're a master of switching personalities or whatever, could you try and make this one a bit more useful as the game goes on? No offense, but town has lost the last two games I've played because of inciteful, spammy posters that basically just distracted them and gave a bunch of false leads.

I mean, for now it at least gets people posting because there isn't a ton of information to discuss, but the CPR role issue still needs to be resolved, and no one's stepped up to say that their role wasn't available so it looks like everyone with an important role either got it or didn't follow the plan at all.

...until we get some night actions in though, I don't really know what to do.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 11 2011 20:03 GMT
#577
Ugh, I don't know who to go with here. I don't feel like aidnai is a good lynch because he hasn't really done anything to deserve it. Yeah fishball called him out and he didn't react well to the pressure, and the whole defending LoR thing looked scummy for a second until people figured out that LoR is RoL. But nothing really jumps to mind that he's done.
LoR's getting votes for claiming he tried to pick traitor, but I don't see what lynching him accomplishes. If he's telling the truth, then we lynch a green and mafia gets to decide what role copycat gets (assuming their lynches go first at night, I'm not 100% how that works tbh) which is potentially dangerous. If he's lying and he did pick traitor then great, now we have a traitor copycat. With CC being in the top 4 (assuming jackal's telling the truth of course) then I wouldn't be surprised if a townie just made a dumb decision and picked it to deny mafia the role for some reason. Actually, let me rephrase: I wouldn't be surprised if kenpachi (as a townie) made a dumb decision and picked CC second.
...but, even though ken's being questionable for the third game in a row, he's such a high pick that on the chance he played this one well and picked a powerful role lynching him would be a really risky move this early on, before we know more about him.
Fishball's attracting votes because he's being loud and accusing people, but that's to be expected.
GGQ has been quiet, but it looks like he was quiet in XXXV as well-- and he /in'd as a replacement, it's not like he jumped on this game right away.

...so I guess aidnai is the best vote for the time being? It's at least not very risky, I guess. I'll be the first to jump off this bandwagon if something better pops up in the next eight hours, though :/

##vote aidnai
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 11 2011 20:03 GMT
#578
oh shit there was a lot of activity in the time it took me to write up that post
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#611
##unvote aidnai
##vote Kenpachi


yup.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 06:23 GMT
#807
On January 13 2011 13:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 13:36 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Now does the CC get to pick an ability, or does the CC just receive Day Vig?


1. deconduo (possibly cpr)
2. Kenpachi
3. kitaman27 (vig)
4. Barundar (dead)
5. Jackal58 (dead, copy cat is above)

Doesn't look good for the top two. I question deconduo's unwillingness to hit kenpachi, but that may have been a judgment call.

The only reason I would consider sparing kenpachi is if he used his day vig power and hit a mafia.


You could be CC as well, of course :X

And do we know if the kills were reported in the day post in the same order that they were sent in or not?
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 07:15 GMT
#811
Sorry, it's kind of hard to get a word in edgewise around here and most of the activity happens while I'm busy during the day :X

And, as was said at the time, your analysis was mostly ignored because it just looked like you were trying to save your own ass.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 18:06 GMT
#861
Is no one else really worried about the fact that either CPR/JOAT is completely unaccounted for? :X If we have one non-SK non-mafia hit, then CPR is probably out there in someone else's hands, and for all we know JOAT is out there doing whatever.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 19:03 GMT
#877
I'm with LSB. Lynching people because they've 'wronged the town' is ridiculous. Decon is on our side for the time being, focusing on him now is a waste of time. Ken is still a major suspect for being red, but likely is the godfather-- So traitor's either you, kita, fishball, or amber, and kita's likely vet.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 20:15 GMT
#885
Cub's claim is pretty legit, I think. Until we have really good mafia candidates.

The funny thing is, though we have good odds of finding the traitor even if we just guess, once we concentrate on killing him mafia has no incentive to try and convert him anymore, so he'll just die and mafia gets a night or two pressure-free. But, if we don't kill him, mafia is going to want to convert him-- and they'll do so pretty quickly, since he's easy to find (plus) and to find him they basically just have to swing around in the top eight (plus) until they hit the right person.

I dunno, this seems like a pretty shitty situation for town at the moment. As far as I can tell pretty much none of the blue roles we may or may not have have kicked in or done anything useful yet, and we're actually in a position to lose in the next day or two if we don't play this really well. Personally, I think going for the traitor is the best move here. He's not going to be too tough to find, and even if it takes more than just today to hunt him at least the blues can get some useful info tonight or tomorrow and that'll put us back on the right track. It's totally a judgment call, though-- I just don't see anyone who sticks out as scum atm.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 20:16 GMT
#886
every single time I post like half a page goes by in the time it takes me to write it up :| I'm responding to fish at the bottom of 44.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 20:19 GMT
#888
...he's sk. He can kill one person a night.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 20:21 GMT
#890
Barundar was mafia's kill. He had the bullet bill role.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 20:32 GMT
#894
He had to kill jackal or he would have been lynched right away, he could have just been relying on mafia to hit a powerful role for him.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 20:35 GMT
#895
...now that I think about it, the only explanation I can think of for him passing on CPR doc for CC-- as SK OR mafia-- would be if he was mafia and wanted a teammate a couple picks down to get it instead of him. I'm having a really hard time justifying why, as SK, he would take CC instead of more KP.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 23:57 GMT
#908
On January 14 2011 05:59 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 05:35 Eiii wrote:
...now that I think about it, the only explanation I can think of for him passing on CPR doc for CC-- as SK OR mafia-- would be if he was mafia and wanted a teammate a couple picks down to get it instead of him. I'm having a really hard time justifying why, as SK, he would take CC instead of more KP.

Deconduo claims he was drunk, and since he is Irish I believe him.


'I was drunk and accidentally made a horrible decision' isn't something we should let fly :/
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 14 2011 01:43 GMT
#927
Wait for tomorrow morning then, for sure.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 00:04 GMT
#992
On January 15 2011 08:57 aidnai wrote:
Unvote abstain
##Vote Deconduo


Until that kill goes through, Deconduo is our lynch today. Remember, majority lynch, so don't hammer, but he's not a townie and we have no reason to trust him.


I hope it goes through soon, I might not be around in a bit.

##Vote Deconduo

Decon, the role says you have to type Kill: Player. I'd post that exactly, just to be sure.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 00:04 GMT
#993
Oh hey you did
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 00:09 GMT
#997
A SK only wins when he's the only surviving player, so mafia and SK can't both win.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 00:11 GMT
#998
...the question is, what's the mafia win condition? Is it just '# town < # mafia' or is it '# town + # SK < # mafia'? Or do SK have to be completely gone for mafia to win?
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#1073
Ugh, we're ten minutes out and still don't have anyone to lynch. Decon is not town for sure-- can we lynch him and keep another townie from potentially dying tonight? If we're having such a hard time finding the traitor/mafia out of such a small pool of players I don't think decon is going to have any better luck.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 01:58 GMT
#1081
How could amber confidently claim that he roleblocked ken in that case, though? :/ Even if cube and amber were both mafia working together, medics don't know what kind of medic they are so he can't have been sure that his protection would have roleblocked ken.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 01:59 GMT
#1083
people post so goddamn fast and my posts become irrelevant before they've even hit the page!

Are we going to be able to get a lynch in tonight or not? :/
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 01:59 GMT
#1086
##unvote
##vote: Fishball
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 02:00 GMT
#1090
:|
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 02:00 GMT
#1091
unvote Fishball
vote Deconduo
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 02:01 GMT
#1093
I sure do hope votes at 11:00 count as votes before the deadline.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 10:29 GMT
#1136
I'd be willing to bet this game on the fact that there would only be two SK, personally.

Jimbo's plan seems just fine to me, as well-- zeks and beneather have been flying under the radar, and fishball has been obnoxious and unhelpful, not to mention not voting yesterday when he was clearly active.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 15 2011 21:13 GMT
#1155
I hate to post this so long after the fact, but...

On January 15 2011 19:55 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:29 Eiii wrote:
I'd be willing to bet this game on the fact that there would only be two SK, personally.

Jimbo's plan seems just fine to me, as well-- zeks and beneather have been flying under the radar, and fishball has been obnoxious and unhelpful, not to mention not voting yesterday when he was clearly active.


See, players like you are the ones that make me frown, and shouldn't even be playing. First I had to deal with Kenpachi and now you.
Obviously you weren't here last night, did not follow the thread, skimmed through most of it, saw Ace's post and made your comment. Hey, look what I found regarding my vote?
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 15 2011 09:34 Fishball wrote:
#vote Abstain for now.

I'm willing to let Deconduo live for now, as he did do Town a favor, and he didn't lie about the Day Vig role.


On January 15 2011 11:04 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 10:49 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm a vig. I'm not cleared but look at the situation. I'm pushing for a lynch while fish sits back and abstains. If he knows he isn't the traitor than surely he would be pushing the lynch on someone who does.


I hate to say this, but how hard headed are you?

Look at the list. What other options do I have? I won't vote myself, I decided to not vote for deconduo. So ok, I try to go for the Traitor. What options do I have?

Kenpachi
kitaman27
Amber[Light]
CubEdIn

None of you are exactly voted for, and basically I would have to build an entire case against one of you, and hope that the remaining Town will somehow magically listen to me, and swap votes within 30 minutes. I already frowned upon the "last minute train" when aidnai pulled this. Basically you're telling me to eat my own words. More importantly, I don't know who is the Traitor, and I've said many times, I'm not focused on the Traitor. If I were forced to choose and go for a Traitor lynch, I would have picked CubEdIn due to all that incoherent fuss earlier, but like I said, none of you are viable candidates anymore given the time frame. So what's wrong with abstaining?

The only reason why Ace missed my vote, was because he searched for ##, instead of #, a wrong format I used.


Obviously. No, I was here last night at the last minute, hilariously scrambling around trying to get SOMEONE lynched so we didn't just waste a day. I didn't remember you voting and took ace's post to be accurate, yeah, and you certainly explained away your non-vote in another post when someone pointed it out, but it doesn't change the fact that missing a lynch is seriously bad for town, and you didn't even try to keep it from happening.

On January 15 2011 19:55 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:29 Eiii wrote:
Jimbo's plan seems just fine to me, as well-- zeks and beneather have been flying under the radar


I've been refraining from using any swear words, even calling people stupid in this game, but it's late at night and you're pushing it. Reread my post. I never argued about or denied how suspicious Beneather and zeks looked. I even said most of us knows, so what you're saying is just pointing out the obvious. My main point, was to question JimboSilvers's motives in general, the big picture itself. You "agreeing" with him, is a pointless reply to my message. I'm talking about apples, you're talking about oranges.


...this part of the post doesn't even have anything to do with you. Yeah, apparently we agree on this point. Why are you yelling at me again?

On January 15 2011 19:55 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:29 Eiii wrote:
fishball has been obnoxious and unhelpful.


So you just repeated what JimboSilvers said, just with different wording. No personal opinions, nothing. I don't feel like talking about this for the Nth time, especially when I'm clearly just wasting my own energy.

[/quote]

Let's look allll the way back to the beginning of the thread...
On January 11 2011 09:43 Eiii wrote:
Fish if you're a master of switching personalities or whatever, could you try and make this one a bit more useful as the game goes on? No offense, but town has lost the last two games I've played because of inciteful, spammy posters that basically just distracted them and gave a bunch of false leads.
...

Hey look! It's exactly the same opinion I'm expressing now, but a couple days from the past! Man that's crazy. And you haven't changed. I call you out on something anti-town you've done, so you yell at me. I throw my hat in with jimbo and agree with you on a few points, so you insult me and yell at me. I reiterate an opinion on you that I've held for the entire game, and that others are picking up on, so you yell at me again. Along with most of the rest of your posts this game, I just don't see what this accomplishes.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 16 2011 02:21 GMT
#1184
wait what
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 18 2011 02:37 GMT
#1360
On January 17 2011 09:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Since mafia believes I am role cop, I guess it's no use keeping it secret.

I am a Role Cop
Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed.


Bah, the one time I'm away for a day is finally when I'm needed. Yes, I picked parity cop, and I didn't get the role. Catching up on thread now.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 19 2011 00:50 GMT
#1389
He's the only confirmation we have that you're GF and not CPR or JOAT or something.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 20 2011 01:15 GMT
#1494
Alright, contentless post because I don't want to be modkilled:

I'm totally leaning towards jimbo's view of things. The rereading of posts that I've been able to do seems to confirm what he's saying.

Apologies for inactivity are pretty much moot at this point, but I'm sorry anyway.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 20 2011 04:19 GMT
#1519
C:

##vote halpopaithan
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 20 2011 04:19 GMT
#1520
I should probably read spoilers huh.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 20 2011 23:33 GMT
#1545
Yes, please do what aidnai says. It'd make this whole game a lot simpler
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 21 2011 03:53 GMT
#1562
##vote deconduo

'course.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 11:46:10
January 22 2011 11:28 GMT
#1639
Ugh, I'm ridiculously sorry I was so inactive and so shitty when I was inactive. I didn't feel involved in any of the discussions and don't really know how to jump into situations AND be useful. :/

EDIT:
On January 22 2011 18:12 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 18:02 Qatol wrote:
On January 22 2011 17:16 Ace wrote:
Yea I gotta say LSB that was major balls to push that Scummy plan through. I think if you just didn't rolefish you woulda lived a bit longer.

Townies actually went a long with it and I was like oh no....Scum win in 5 days v_v

I thought the reason he died is because he assigned himself Godfather and then he didn't claim that it got stolen (most likely because he didn't try to take it). When the town found out about it, busted. Yet another drawback of a plan like that if you don't intend to follow it yourself: you have to lie.

Yeah the not-claim is silly. Same with Eiii... should've said he didn't get Parity much earlier.


And this was something I was struggling with-- I figured I should have not claimed and tried to soak up a mafia hit, but if I claimed that I didn't get it then mafia would know where parity *actually* was within 2-3 people for sure (and they could probably narrow it down to one good suspect from there) since the roles of so many people above me were known. Once parity had found out something really useful they could bring it forward, and I could claim that I actually didn't get it to legitimize their claim. And if I got killed off before hand, then I had successfully absorbed a hit that was aimed at someone a lot more useful than I was.

To be honest, I didn't really consider it as a role that mafia would have wanted to pick up but apparently I should have. Either way, what does knowing that parity cop might be scum hands do for us other than just assuming I have it doesn't?
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