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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 16 2011 22:38 GMT
#1244
As well as most likely means jimbo is town
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 16 2011 22:41 GMT
#1245
On January 17 2011 07:32 Misder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 04:05 CubEdIn wrote:
On January 17 2011 02:36 Misder wrote:
I never said you were retarded I don't use that kind of language anyways.


No, you said I'm stupid, very stupid. Mostly because I didn't read the OP well enough.
And after saying that, you went on about LSB, who had already died, and did an "analysis" on him. Which means that you've been paying less attention to the game than I was. And that's just plain ignorant.

But you know, bygones.

Huh. TBH, I really did totally miss LSB dying actually. alright, I admit. I'm also very stupid. I'll blame myself for that. Although, I'll say that I payed equally as much attention to the game as you.


If you missed someone dying, seeing what they flipped, and made a post analyzing them saying you weren't convinced they were mafia you are paying less attention. By saying you were questioning that he was mafia is indicative of two things, you are red, or stupid. Only a red would know for sure he wasn't red, and he was acting insanely sketchy which had put him on a ton of radars to begin with.

#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 17 2011 04:48 GMT
#1280
On January 17 2011 09:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Since mafia believes I am role cop, I guess it's no use keeping it secret.

I am a Role Cop
Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed.


On January 17 2011 09:20 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:13 Kenpachi wrote:
Interesting.. Eii lied?


Did he claim? I must have missed it. Well I know he is lying so until he responds to his situation.

##Vote Eiii



He never claimed he got parity cop but he did say he would try to get it.

You voting for him after you know he flipped vanilla townie is retarded. If he flipped vanilla town, and we know traitor was chosen befor ehim in the list he can only be 100% town by your own role.

This is the most what the fuck reasoning to vote ever. You could have read the thread to know he hadn't claimed.


Also, it is far too convienient that you checked a claimed player already, checked an inactive and got back innocent, while not actively participating in analysis. You have rehashed information multiple times, or chimed in on possible targets but have failed to actually bring forward targets of your own. I will be analyzing you as you are insanely obviously red at this point. Your role claim / target choices just proves it.

Now, lets get to the matter at hand.
Town majority at least till this point was Fishball is traitor.
for what I can see, town majority still thinks he is
He claimed mafia medic protected him, IE we know he was recruited last night
This also means for him to survive "decon's" hit, decon must be red as well (mafia med won't prot him, just recruit him)


Factor in Fishballs play today, He is actively trying to kill an almost essentially confirmed player (yes fishball, he actually is almost confirmed) over not factoring in a random situation that was insanely unlikely. You have seperately called him traitor and sk in previous posts which would lead to the confusion of his saying "sk can't be traitor".

EVERYONE STOP AND VOTE FISHBALL. At the moment he is being counter productive, and if I am correct and he flips recruited mafia, we have just nabbed decon as well. Bum is obviously red, and my next closest suspect is Pigsquirrel who I will also be analyzing. Lets just win this game already and stop with the nonessential infighting. We have a list of townies that are basically good to go, time to remove the ones who aren't contributing and obviously anti town.

#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 17 2011 04:50 GMT
#1281
##vote fishball
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 17 2011 04:54 GMT
#1284
Amber, you do realize that Im a horrible day 1 shot as I am more likely than others to draw medic protection or take a night life role + day 2 town was planning to shoot me, why would mafia / sk waste a hit. -_- I almost did die, so your FoS on me for living is pretty bad.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 17 2011 05:00 GMT
#1286
On January 17 2011 13:58 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 13:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 17 2011 12:59 bumatlarge wrote:
Jesus, it's like everyone glances through thread

"ANYTHING PERTAIN TO ME? REFUTE! OK GOODNIGHT."

I'd like to think fishball is town so that his zeks' list actually means something. But that would leave a traitor in these 4; Kenpachi, kitaman, Amber and cube. I will try to break these down right now so there is no confusion.

Kenpachi: Claimed GF
Proof - BC and LSB tried to grab GF also, LSB is dead SK vanilla. Bum Role checked.
- Chance of LSB lying is improbable, so GF is in the game. Both BC and bum would have to be lying. Ken has to be GF or these three are mafia
Not Traitor

kitaman27: Claimed Vig
Proof - None? Claimed RB from cube. This clears kita's story unless both cube and him are scum, but he is not proven Vig. You still get informed you get RB if you are vanilla AFAIK.
Possible Traitor

Amber[Light] Claimed RoleBlocker
Proof - Kenpachi confirmed he was roleblocked night 1? Unless Cube and amber are in cahoots, it's not something Amber would risk, and also amber was zeks mason. Don't think mason would ally with traitor. Pig also was RB'd night 2, hasn't said anything.
Not traitor Likely town

CubEdIn Claimed Doctor
Proof - Says it roleblocks at the same time. Now I can't make SHIT out of what cube says. He protected kita night 2and it said he was saved and roleblocked which means both are legit, or both are scum. Night 1, I think I've read the 20 pages after night 1 a bunch and I'm missing it. Can you clear this up cube? Might just be me missing it.
Not Traitor


Bum? I thought we had something special. I could have been your gender-confused batgirl!

This post seems very focused towards making me look bad. I admit I haven't been able to prove I'm vig, but think of it this way. The traitor does not want to eliminate other traitor suspects because that narrows down who could be the bad guy. I have been pushing fishball for two days now to get him lynched because I know I am not the traitor. Fishball has been ignoring the traitor hunt for the most part. I also took a hit last night. While that doesn't clear me, the scum clearly want me dead.

Zeks said:
Although kita is pretty much our best way to win...even if he was SK.


Even the scum mason admits I'm the town's best way to win. He also brings up this SK accusation. Seems like a common scum theme.

Could you explain your reasoning for thinking fishball is town? You pass him up for discussion without giving a solid reason why.


I just want to make sure all the facts are out there. In PYP I'd argue Info is just as important as analysis, but that's because I suck. I want fishball to be town so his zeks' list will real and I want BC to be wrong. I would take it personally if BC is really scum here.

Well I guess the fastest way to see if it is true is to kill fishball. His death would just confirm so much. I don't like letting BC be right :X

SELFISH DESIRES MUST BE LEASHED (for now)

##Unvote Eiii
##Vote Fishball



Why is it like 95% of the player base hates me being right -_-
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 17 2011 05:13 GMT
#1289
On January 09 2011 14:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Just making LSB's list, while a good guideline, there are a lot of things I completely disagree with. In my opinion, they suck.

1. deconduo [4][7] - CPR
2. Kenpachi [7][3] - JOAT
3. kitaman27 [8-20][?] - V
4. CubEdIn [8-20][?] - BB
5. Amber[Light] [8-20][?] - CC
6. Barundar [8-20][?] - D1
7. LayOffRage [8-20][?] - RB
8. bumatlarge [1][1] - D2
9. Jackal58 [1?][?] - DV
10. Fishball [1?][?] - RC
11. HaploPaithan[1/2][?] - Par
12. Eiii [2][3] - AC
13. BloodyC0bbler [2][x] - Pol
14. zeks [3][1] - T
15. Misder [3][2] - M
16. aidnai [3][3] - W
17. JimboSilvers [3][3] - H
18. GGQ [5][3] - BP
19. Beneather [5][x] - J
20. Pigsquirrel [5][x] - PoD
21. Divinek [5][1] - V
22. LSB [5][1] - GF

Key - + Show Spoiler +
1. CPR Doc = CPR
2. JOAT
3. Vig = V
4. Bullet Bill = BB
5. Copy Cat = CC
6. Doctor = D1
7. Role Blocker = RB
8. Doctor = D2
9. Day Vig = DV
10. Role Cop = RC
11. Pardoner = Par
12. Alignment Cop = AC
13. Politican = Pol
14. Tracker = T
15. Mason = M
16. Witch = W
17. Hider = H
18. Janitor = J
19. Bulletproof = BP
20. Prince of Darkness = PoD
21. Veteran = V
22. God Father = GF


Now for my points. Those roles on the bottom. What is the point? To know what they have? Because you certainly aren't denying them. I think they are better off checking green roles as mafia could easily skit out on not picking those and deny other things. While it is nice to know if a GF or PoD are among us, it's an easy lie to make. Doubt it would be that big of a deal though.

They could be so much more useful checking things like completely pro-town roles or some other agenda. I mean mafia cant really do much down there anyway without help from mafia on top. One chink in the chain and mafia could exchange a lot of roles. So I think the further along the bottom you are, the more freedom you should take in checking and picking what you think would benefit town the most.

And of course the SK is going to be running around, and hes gonna do whatever he wants is best for him. (hell there could be more then 1.. scary)

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On January 09 2011 13:31 LSB wrote:
This changes everything
If the mafia went by the pick plan I outlined, they would have 5 of the top 8 spots.

The town Must follow my plan. Following Jimbo's plan is suicide since A good portion of the top spots is probably mafia.

My plan solves for this as many of the top picks are 'watch' picks, that cannot abuse their role. In addition, the information roles are forced to share their results, forcing mafia to stick their heads out to scrutiny.

FOS on anyone not following the plan


A bit of big statement there... so I'm gonna go ahead and say nonsense. I seriously doubt it, but it is possible. There are a lot of chances mafia clashed hard with town. I bet there is a few up there, but DEFINITELY not all five. But if you really feel passionate about this quest of yours LSB, then lol go for it. I'm watching you like a hawk, and this is incredibly odd play. Either you are a very imaginative and irrational townie or you are a chaotic mafia that would rival that of chezinu or BM. If more people agree with you, then it will be strong because town would be very cohesive, if you manage to scumhunt the hell out of mafia and SK. I hope your scumdar is turned on high.

Good luck, but I am not following your script here




On January 17 2011 09:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Since mafia believes I am role cop, I guess it's no use keeping it secret.

I am a Role Cop
Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed.




Anyone else see what i see?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 17 2011 05:21 GMT
#1292
Bum is #10 on the draft list, I quoted bum's post to it. The point is he flat out disagreed with a plan and said he wasn't following it, which would mean he wouldnt take rolecop -_-.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 17 2011 05:24 GMT
#1295
Anyone wanting to lynch kita at this point off fishballs analysis should shoot quite life asap.

This isn't a game about finding the SK (yet) its about finding mafia. SK's best interest is shooting mafia, not town at this point. Factor in Kita is almost confirmed via roleblock, being shot/medic prot (kita would not want medic prot if he was sk). Do not get distracted by the lets find the sk game people.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 17 2011 05:30 GMT
#1296
On January 17 2011 14:24 bumatlarge wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 17 2011 13:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Since mafia believes I am role cop, I guess it's no use keeping it secret.

I am a Role Cop
Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed.


Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:20 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 17 2011 09:13 Kenpachi wrote:
Interesting.. Eii lied?


Did he claim? I must have missed it. Well I know he is lying so until he responds to his situation.

##Vote Eiii



He never claimed he got parity cop but he did say he would try to get it.

You voting for him after you know he flipped vanilla townie is retarded. If he flipped vanilla town, and we know traitor was chosen befor ehim in the list he can only be 100% town by your own role.

This is the most what the fuck reasoning to vote ever. You could have read the thread to know he hadn't claimed.


Also, it is far too convienient that you checked a claimed player already, checked an inactive and got back innocent, while not actively participating in analysis. You have rehashed information multiple times, or chimed in on possible targets but have failed to actually bring forward targets of your own. I will be analyzing you as you are insanely obviously red at this point. Your role claim / target choices just proves it.

Now, lets get to the matter at hand.
Town majority at least till this point was Fishball is traitor.
for what I can see, town majority still thinks he is
He claimed mafia medic protected him, IE we know he was recruited last night
This also means for him to survive "decon's" hit, decon must be red as well (mafia med won't prot him, just recruit him)


Factor in Fishballs play today, He is actively trying to kill an almost essentially confirmed player (yes fishball, he actually is almost confirmed) over not factoring in a random situation that was insanely unlikely. You have seperately called him traitor and sk in previous posts which would lead to the confusion of his saying "sk can't be traitor".

EVERYONE STOP AND VOTE FISHBALL. At the moment he is being counter productive, and if I am correct and he flips recruited mafia, we have just nabbed decon as well. Bum is obviously red, and my next closest suspect is Pigsquirrel who I will also be analyzing. Lets just win this game already and stop with the nonessential infighting. We have a list of townies that are basically good to go, time to remove the ones who aren't contributing and obviously anti town.


I know what I have to do to win. I don't need to confirm myself, I've been here this whole game telling town what I thought and giving them hell for what I thought was stupid, and you've been trying to do that also, except a day later. You let day 2 slip by without lynching anyone. So you are most likely busing fishball when half the active people are already voting for him and now deconduo is red? Of course we are going to lynch him next after killing 3 more townies during the night whether he is SK or scum. And it wouldn't surprise me if he did pop red now that you "deduced" it. The only thing stopping you is town isn't going to blindly believe everything you say. Jimbo was hit right after you said "I like this guy!" You knew he was smart, but that kill didn't go your way. Can't wait for him to get back and refute this scenario you've created. Now you are trying to bully the remainder of the people like Amber who is 95% town into following you by insulting them. I'll never get that why you and fishball think insulting someone's intelligence is the best way to persuade them. And of course the other 4 in the top besides fish and deconduo are town because their stories rely on one another, and damn you don't have a scum among them. Well let's kill them with kindness and "insta towny" all of them. WE'LL HAVE A HOLIDAY EVERYONE BC IS GIVING OUT INSTA TOWNIE REP!

I've got mine, and I think you are banking way too hard that town will lynch me during lylo. You'd be running short on the list of people you can bus then?


Bus? Dude, go compare your play to zeks, sup same shit. You are feigning activity, you have done 0 real analysis on finding scum. Period. You can come out all you want and say "i think so and so is x" without an actual post behind why you believe so its useless and fluff posts. It gives you the appearance of being active and contributing while in actuality lurking and keeping back. You also kept relatively inactive in thread all through day 2 until you were called out. As for the pushing of fishball now? If he flips red it gives us another one, decon.

Compare fish's play to today till any other day and hes suddenly more active, gone from "i don't give a shit/post somewhat intelligently" to massive FoS someone who has yet to do anything massively anti town. Its chaos. But his play is drastically different now, what changed? Simple, he was given an "out" to live today. Far too convienient and most likely a lie.

#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 17 2011 05:38 GMT
#1299
You specifically said you weren't following the plan then follow it. Do you want me to go hunt down your post where fishball said he wasn't going to follow it, you quote it and say your going with fishball here?

Like, dude you said TWICE you weren't going to follow it, why the last minute decision? then you use a rolecheck and reveal its results after the guy claims his role? Wow, best move in the world. then the next one on a super inactive player. Awesome scum hunting yo. Why would you not use it on a player like kita, fishball, myself, cube or the like WHO ARE ALL IN THE CENTER OF this. Fishball points fingers at me and kita.

You pointed some at kita, myself and are sure fishball isn't traitor.

Kita thought I was, etc....

Yet you chose eiii who wasn't on any radars? at all? really?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 17 2011 06:09 GMT
#1307
On January 17 2011 14:43 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 14:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 17 2011 14:24 bumatlarge wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 17 2011 13:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Since mafia believes I am role cop, I guess it's no use keeping it secret.

I am a Role Cop
Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed.


Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:20 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 17 2011 09:13 Kenpachi wrote:
Interesting.. Eii lied?


Did he claim? I must have missed it. Well I know he is lying so until he responds to his situation.

##Vote Eiii



He never claimed he got parity cop but he did say he would try to get it.

You voting for him after you know he flipped vanilla townie is retarded. If he flipped vanilla town, and we know traitor was chosen befor ehim in the list he can only be 100% town by your own role.

This is the most what the fuck reasoning to vote ever. You could have read the thread to know he hadn't claimed.


Also, it is far too convienient that you checked a claimed player already, checked an inactive and got back innocent, while not actively participating in analysis. You have rehashed information multiple times, or chimed in on possible targets but have failed to actually bring forward targets of your own. I will be analyzing you as you are insanely obviously red at this point. Your role claim / target choices just proves it.

Now, lets get to the matter at hand.
Town majority at least till this point was Fishball is traitor.
for what I can see, town majority still thinks he is
He claimed mafia medic protected him, IE we know he was recruited last night
This also means for him to survive "decon's" hit, decon must be red as well (mafia med won't prot him, just recruit him)


Factor in Fishballs play today, He is actively trying to kill an almost essentially confirmed player (yes fishball, he actually is almost confirmed) over not factoring in a random situation that was insanely unlikely. You have seperately called him traitor and sk in previous posts which would lead to the confusion of his saying "sk can't be traitor".

EVERYONE STOP AND VOTE FISHBALL. At the moment he is being counter productive, and if I am correct and he flips recruited mafia, we have just nabbed decon as well. Bum is obviously red, and my next closest suspect is Pigsquirrel who I will also be analyzing. Lets just win this game already and stop with the nonessential infighting. We have a list of townies that are basically good to go, time to remove the ones who aren't contributing and obviously anti town.


I know what I have to do to win. I don't need to confirm myself, I've been here this whole game telling town what I thought and giving them hell for what I thought was stupid, and you've been trying to do that also, except a day later. You let day 2 slip by without lynching anyone. So you are most likely busing fishball when half the active people are already voting for him and now deconduo is red? Of course we are going to lynch him next after killing 3 more townies during the night whether he is SK or scum. And it wouldn't surprise me if he did pop red now that you "deduced" it. The only thing stopping you is town isn't going to blindly believe everything you say. Jimbo was hit right after you said "I like this guy!" You knew he was smart, but that kill didn't go your way. Can't wait for him to get back and refute this scenario you've created. Now you are trying to bully the remainder of the people like Amber who is 95% town into following you by insulting them. I'll never get that why you and fishball think insulting someone's intelligence is the best way to persuade them. And of course the other 4 in the top besides fish and deconduo are town because their stories rely on one another, and damn you don't have a scum among them. Well let's kill them with kindness and "insta towny" all of them. WE'LL HAVE A HOLIDAY EVERYONE BC IS GIVING OUT INSTA TOWNIE REP!

I've got mine, and I think you are banking way too hard that town will lynch me during lylo. You'd be running short on the list of people you can bus then?


Bus? Dude, go compare your play to zeks, sup same shit. You are feigning activity, you have done 0 real analysis on finding scum. Period. You can come out all you want and say "i think so and so is x" without an actual post behind why you believe so its useless and fluff posts. It gives you the appearance of being active and contributing while in actuality lurking and keeping back. You also kept relatively inactive in thread all through day 2 until you were called out. As for the pushing of fishball now? If he flips red it gives us another one, decon.

Compare fish's play to today till any other day and hes suddenly more active, gone from "i don't give a shit/post somewhat intelligently" to massive FoS someone who has yet to do anything massively anti town. Its chaos. But his play is drastically different now, what changed? Simple, he was given an "out" to live today. Far too convienient and most likely a lie


Gonna keep building this up til day 5. It's almost insulting you are comparing me to zeks. It's as if you are stating that you are the sole reason fishball and deconduo are going to get lynched! That is funny. Long before you decided to start posting, deconduo should have died day 2 and fishball would die today. The only person you've outted is "me"

In fact, if you are so sold on me and my feigned activity, you should lynch me now. I mean town will follow you right now, right? Oh wait you need to theoretically buy votes by killing fishball and deconduo, by "your" analysis, as if town couldn't figure out THE ONLY POSSIBLE TRAITOR, and a guy WHO CLAIMED SK. I don't need to say anymore. Deconduo practically claimed because I said to test DayVig hits. DID I HAVE TO DO THAT? As town I sure as hell did.

If it wasn't lylo by day 5, I'd like to see your excuses if you actually got me to flip and find I was town. Really, you just need to dodge medic for a night to make lylo come unless you've got PoD tucked away. I'm confident you won't pull this off.



Hi I outed LSB, as guess what it was my analysis that got him killed. Good job ignoring that. I am not taking the sole resonsibility on fishball, I am pointing out his change in play, pointing out decon? Guess what till recently most people just accepted he was SK, thats not confirmed hurrrrr durr.

As for pushing you now? Why would I, you are painting yourself red so hard right now all you do is give people enough stuff to see your red just as I do. You and zeks had the same play, theres your comparison. You will be like "but he was inactive!" However his posts showed he was clearly reading the thread and not really being there, as did your posts till today. Connection.

Fishballs play has changed drastically, hes directly connected to decon who went from active to suddenly quiet. Connection. You can say I am pointing things out that are done before, but guess what I pointed at you, found a connection to another player and have already found you contradicting yourself, hell you also tried to keep the find the traitor game up, which at this point I think is useless, why? because the #1 target for that is fishball who by today is recruited if he is.


As for having people do the day vig test? Decon had already been called out for being the copycat by lsb so you don't get credit for it either.

Now to bring up a point of you saying "as if town couldn't find the only possible traitor" why would you say that and believe it if you posted this a few pages ago

On January 17 2011 12:59 bumatlarge wrote:
kitaman27: Claimed Vig
Proof - None? Claimed RB from cube. This clears kita's story unless both cube and him are scum, but he is not proven Vig. You still get informed you get RB if you are vanilla AFAIK.
Possible Traitor



You just admit fishball is traitor, yet you tried to FoS kita for it? Awesome, contradiction again, we are up to two in a quick glance, looks better and better for you.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 17 2011 06:11 GMT
#1308
On January 17 2011 14:52 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 14:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Fishball points fingers at me and kita.


What?
This is what I said.
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 09:10 Fishball wrote:
I'm pretty sure even BC himself would agree with me if you look at it from another player's view point. Still, what he is providing right now, far outshines the skepticism early on; I don't really have anything against him for now.




You said that now as in day 3, day 2 you FoS early on before I started posting -_-. Remember we are discussing his last night "check"
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 18 2011 04:14 GMT
#1368
On January 18 2011 11:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Since all but a couple of the claims are now public, I think it would be beneficial for the remainder to role claim.

1 deconduo copycat
2 Kenpachi godfather
3 kitaman27 vig
4 Barundar bullet bill
5 Jackal58 vanilla
6 Fishball traitor
7 Amber[Light] role blocker
8 CubEdIn medic
9 LayOffRage vanilla
10 bumatlarge role cop
11 HaploPaithan (parity cop?)
12 Eiii vanilla
13 BloodyC0bbler vanilla
14 zeks mason
15 Misder vanilla
16 aidnai witch
17 JimboSilvers (vet?)
18 GGQ day vig
19 Beneather bulletproof
20 Pigsquirrel ???
21 Divinek hider
22 LSB vanilla

@Haplo Since the mafia now knows whether or not you are the parity cop, you should claim your results

@Pigsquirrel, with the pro-town roles all already out in the open, I would like to hear what your role is. Please do not ignore my request, as I am strongly considering hitting you if you do so.

@Jimbo, are you sure you didn't die from that hit because it sure seems like it :/



Eiii claims that he tried to get parity and didn't get it correct? That means that someone below him has the role or he is lying and got red. For sake of the argument lets assume that he did get it.

This means someone from

1 deconduo copycat
2 Kenpachi godfather
3 kitaman27 vig
4 Barundar bullet bill
5 Jackal58 vanilla
6 Fishball traitor
7 Amber[Light] role blocker
8 CubEdIn medic
9 LayOffRage vanilla
10 bumatlarge role cop
11 HaploPaithan (parity cop?)

Is the parity cop, of that list, jackal, barundar, fishball and RoL are dead. Cube has proved his role essentially (still possible doubt that he and kita are lying, but very unlikely) decon has proved he is CC. As I picked after eiii and was unable to get GF it makes kenpachi's claim most likely legit clearing him from the list.

That leaves amber, bum and halpo. Of these three, amber has so far had people claim that he has roleblocked them (this would leave it open that he is indeed the roleblocker).

This leaves bum and halpo. Of these two, it is likely that the cpr exists. I say this for one simple reason. The only way mafia would know cpr was still available and try for it, is if decon was red. IT is far to much of a gamble if you are pick 10 or 11 to take cpr if #1 was not only supposed to but it was one role that the town wanted to be able to hold accountable period.

Factor in as well that for last nights "extra" kp to make sense one of our known kp roles had to be lying. We know fishball was recruited and the chances of him being so night 1 are slim (wasn't 100% clear he had the role). Which means he was most likely converted night two. This means decon was lying as a mafia med would have recruited him, not saved him from a hit. Therefore believe that decon is red. His "shot" on fishball was a lie and instead mafia hits are jimbo/kita. One is a townie who pointed out zeks, the other town aligned KP. Unknown sk shot zeks.

Now. In this case we have the cpr "unaccounted for" if parity cop was taken, the chances of cpr being taken in the first 11 players we know halpo or bum has it, which would mean the other has cpr.

I would propose kita shoots bum, amber roleblocks halpo. Cube can protect who he wants to protect/roleblock. As he has the ability to roleblock I would suggest decon/pig as they are both suspicious at the moment. I will post more when I get home but im at a friends atm
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 18 2011 05:50 GMT
#1371
On January 18 2011 14:41 JimboSilvers wrote:
Sorry guys, just got back from an exhausting weekend. As people have already guessed, I am a veteran.

Anyway, glad to see BC's analysis, as its right in line with mine. I have a few things to add though.

I cant see a townie picking parity cop as Eiii said he'd already pick it and town doesnt want people losing out on roles for no reason. This means that whoever picked it is probably mafia. Furthermore, since mafia want to recruit the traitor without wasting a hit, it would be perfectly convenient to pick parity cop to deny town information and recruit mafia at the same time. Since parity cop is likely mafia, this would make it easy for bumatlarge to fake role cop, as they know Eiii would be green, and Kenpachi already claimed GF before bum announcd his check.

Also, cubedin should not protect decon. Unless he's actually SK, which is unlikely at this point, that roleblock will do nothing. I'd be ok with using cubedin as a roleblock on pigsquirrel, as the PoD could pretty much end the game right now , or alternatively as a medic prot on BC/me. Anyway, I'll post more tomorrow when I get my stuff in order.



I'm fine with roleblocking halpo, vigi'ing bum and "med/rb" pig to keep powers down. That should eliminate/block most of the mafia and their powers. The obvious worry is if there is a mafia in the lurkers but for now I believe most of the scummiest players are on tonights docket. I also glad to see someone else along my train of thought.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 18 2011 22:53 GMT
#1380
On January 19 2011 07:24 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 17:27 aidnai wrote:
On January 18 2011 14:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 18 2011 14:41 JimboSilvers wrote:
Sorry guys, just got back from an exhausting weekend. As people have already guessed, I am a veteran.

Anyway, glad to see BC's analysis, as its right in line with mine. I have a few things to add though.

I cant see a townie picking parity cop as Eiii said he'd already pick it and town doesnt want people losing out on roles for no reason. This means that whoever picked it is probably mafia. Furthermore, since mafia want to recruit the traitor without wasting a hit, it would be perfectly convenient to pick parity cop to deny town information and recruit mafia at the same time. Since parity cop is likely mafia, this would make it easy for bumatlarge to fake role cop, as they know Eiii would be green, and Kenpachi already claimed GF before bum announcd his check.

Also, cubedin should not protect decon. Unless he's actually SK, which is unlikely at this point, that roleblock will do nothing. I'd be ok with using cubedin as a roleblock on pigsquirrel, as the PoD could pretty much end the game right now , or alternatively as a medic prot on BC/me. Anyway, I'll post more tomorrow when I get my stuff in order.



I'm fine with roleblocking halpo, vigi'ing bum and "med/rb" pig to keep powers down. That should eliminate/block most of the mafia and their powers. The obvious worry is if there is a mafia in the lurkers but for now I believe most of the scummiest players are on tonights docket. I also glad to see someone else along my train of thought.


I'm OK with the targets, but I don't like the fact that kitaman is likely to die. Kita, what do you think? As wary as I have been of BC this game, this plan makes sense to me.


I think cube would serve better as a medic than a roleblocker. I asked that he consider including me in his RNG medic save so if the mafia want to hit me, then they have to risk their kp not going through again.

@dec, most people are accusing you of not being a SK. Do you have any response? It seems likely that people will be pushing for your lynch tomorrow. For you to be spared, you will probably have to show that you can be useful to the town. Do you have a scum target in mind?

@bum, haven't heard from you since the lynch. Your name is coming up a lot for the night hit, have anything to say?

@Jimbo....Do you ever intend to explain your situation with the previous night hit? You came in with a vague post on Saturday and now it is Tuesday and we are still waiting.



he claimed vet a page or so ago.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 18 2011 22:58 GMT
#1382
On January 19 2011 07:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 07:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 19 2011 07:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 18 2011 17:27 aidnai wrote:
On January 18 2011 14:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 18 2011 14:41 JimboSilvers wrote:
Sorry guys, just got back from an exhausting weekend. As people have already guessed, I am a veteran.

Anyway, glad to see BC's analysis, as its right in line with mine. I have a few things to add though.

I cant see a townie picking parity cop as Eiii said he'd already pick it and town doesnt want people losing out on roles for no reason. This means that whoever picked it is probably mafia. Furthermore, since mafia want to recruit the traitor without wasting a hit, it would be perfectly convenient to pick parity cop to deny town information and recruit mafia at the same time. Since parity cop is likely mafia, this would make it easy for bumatlarge to fake role cop, as they know Eiii would be green, and Kenpachi already claimed GF before bum announcd his check.

Also, cubedin should not protect decon. Unless he's actually SK, which is unlikely at this point, that roleblock will do nothing. I'd be ok with using cubedin as a roleblock on pigsquirrel, as the PoD could pretty much end the game right now , or alternatively as a medic prot on BC/me. Anyway, I'll post more tomorrow when I get my stuff in order.



I'm fine with roleblocking halpo, vigi'ing bum and "med/rb" pig to keep powers down. That should eliminate/block most of the mafia and their powers. The obvious worry is if there is a mafia in the lurkers but for now I believe most of the scummiest players are on tonights docket. I also glad to see someone else along my train of thought.


I'm OK with the targets, but I don't like the fact that kitaman is likely to die. Kita, what do you think? As wary as I have been of BC this game, this plan makes sense to me.


I think cube would serve better as a medic than a roleblocker. I asked that he consider including me in his RNG medic save so if the mafia want to hit me, then they have to risk their kp not going through again.

@dec, most people are accusing you of not being a SK. Do you have any response? It seems likely that people will be pushing for your lynch tomorrow. For you to be spared, you will probably have to show that you can be useful to the town. Do you have a scum target in mind?

@bum, haven't heard from you since the lynch. Your name is coming up a lot for the night hit, have anything to say?

@Jimbo....Do you ever intend to explain your situation with the previous night hit? You came in with a vague post on Saturday and now it is Tuesday and we are still waiting.



he claimed vet a page or so ago.


Hehe opps, its on this page >.<

Must have missed it.


and only reason I didn't have you listed for med prot was you are town kp. regardless cube will do what he believes is best
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 18 2011 23:05 GMT
#1385
On January 19 2011 08:01 HaploPaithan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 07:08 aidnai wrote:
jumboshivers? that's as bad as GeorgeClooney calling pandain "paindrain" lol. Although, everyone is calling you halpo so maybe you just want a little payback...

Haplo's claim presents an interesting situation... I don't like the idea of killing off our information roles. If Haplo is telling the truth (town parity cop), it seems unlikely that either bumatlarge or jimbo are mafia, considering jimbo wants bum to be vig hit tonight (however, SK is still a possibility for either.)

It's quite possible that CPR doc is not in spot 10 or 11, for instance:
-Deconduo is scum, he saved the CPR role for someone further down the draft. Mafia felt ballsy, waiting till near the end of the draft to pick up CPR doc, resulting in it being more hidden. More risk, more reward.
-Deconduo is SK, mafia had someone at the end of the draft go for CPR doc, just for kicks, and got lucky.

That being said, I would rather flip Haplo than bumatlarge, for two reasons:
1) If Bum is indeed role cop, he could be very useful for finding SKs...
2) Haplo's reasoning for picking parity cop is very dubious, to say the least. Especially after all this:

On January 03 2011 13:02 HaploPaithan wrote:
Cool plan. I'll go along with it.

On January 05 2011 11:24 HaploPaithan wrote:
I like the plan.
Edit: If people can't agree on a full list. I think we should at least be able to agree that we need to have a pick order for the most dangerous roles.

On January 07 2011 07:06 HaploPaithan wrote:
/confirm

I'm still cool with the predetermined list.

On January 08 2011 01:23 HaploPaithan wrote:
I feel everyone should post if they are going to follow LSB's plan as of right now. This will give us a good idea how many intend to follow it.

I plan to follow it.

Pretty uncool of you to insist you're gonna follow the plan and then snipe the role above yours, don't you think?

If it turns out I saved the only scum set to die night one, just, lol...

Those were posts while the plan was still up for discussion. Once it was obvious that not many people were planning on following the plan, I also chose to not follow.


so instead you sniped the role of the guy directly behind you who said he was following the plan regardless? biggest douche move ever. Considering you also waited till being called out on it makes it even more scummy.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 19 2011 02:06 GMT
#1393
On January 19 2011 11:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 11:01 aidnai wrote:
good morning everyone?


I hope so.

Sorry BC, you were my target again.



........


Well, if he did target me, Good game town, You are pretty much fucked for being so retarded. Mafia gg, your strategy of being idle might win again.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 19 2011 02:14 GMT
#1397
You guys, are fucking stupid. Unless amber blocks pig we lose. That is of course provided pig is red, if hes not, whatever, if he is, double night = town loses a shit ton of players. gj. you both are terrible.
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