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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 18:06 GMT
#861
Is no one else really worried about the fact that either CPR/JOAT is completely unaccounted for? :X If we have one non-SK non-mafia hit, then CPR is probably out there in someone else's hands, and for all we know JOAT is out there doing whatever.
:3
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 13 2011 18:07 GMT
#862
On January 14 2011 03:06 Eiii wrote:
Is no one else really worried about the fact that either CPR/JOAT is completely unaccounted for? :X If we have one non-SK non-mafia hit, then CPR is probably out there in someone else's hands, and for all we know JOAT is out there doing whatever.


If cpr at this point hasn't come out and claimed, its either in mafia hands, second SK hands, or a player who would never tell anyone he had it to begin with.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 13 2011 18:08 GMT
#863
On January 14 2011 02:59 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 02:56 CubEdIn wrote:
On January 14 2011 02:48 LSB wrote:
On January 14 2011 02:44 CubEdIn wrote:
On January 14 2011 02:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 14 2011 02:41 CubEdIn wrote:
On January 14 2011 02:34 LSB wrote:
So, BC, you're on the balance team. How likely is it that there are 3 SKs in a game?

Of the 4 KP. I count
1 Mafia.
1 Deconduo SK
2 Unknown


JOAT/CPR/Hider

Also, wasn't the Witch supposed to help tonight?


Also, hider doesn't have KP


But which could've rescued hider?

Cube

4 people were shot last night
GGQ
HaploPaithan
Barunder
Jackel58

Aidani protected HaploPaitan. And Divinek hid behind Barunder or something.

One of the shots was mafia. One was deconduo. We're missing two shots


Ok, got it.

But we still have JOAT, correct? (If Kenpachi turns out mafia then surely Mafia would've gotten this role).
And for the extra hit, how can we make sure that aidnai really did rescue someone?


Although we cannot know for certain that Haplo was actually targeted, I would say that Aidani was pretty open about it, and that's enough for me.


Well, just because he's witch doesn't mean he's not red. He could still know who dies but not actually choose to protect anyone, that's all I'm saying.

Me? I would go after Deconduo and Kenpachi. No doubt about it.
They wronged the town in the worst ways possible: letting mafia have two of the top roles in the game, increasing Mafia KP drastically, etc.

Deconduo would be first on the list.

@BC: Lol dude, I never said don't lynch me. Please do. But maybe you should focus on one of the more obvious people ahead of me in the list. Especially since someone else may pop traitor and ruin your whole detective work.
I agree that lying was not the best idea, but I explained why I did it. If you don't believe me, that's very well, but maybe make a note, stop causing chaos, and focus on the more OBVIOUS issues in here.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 18:13 GMT
#864
On January 14 2011 03:06 Eiii wrote:
Is no one else really worried about the fact that either CPR/JOAT is completely unaccounted for? :X If we have one non-SK non-mafia hit, then CPR is probably out there in someone else's hands, and for all we know JOAT is out there doing whatever.


Whats worse is they are probably in the hands of a mafia member since no one has come forward with their poor scum-telling abilities.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 13 2011 18:18 GMT
#865
On January 14 2011 03:08 CubEdIn wrote:
Me? I would go after Deconduo and Kenpachi. No doubt about it.
They wronged the town in the worst ways possible: letting mafia have two of the top roles in the game, increasing Mafia KP drastically, etc.

Deconduo would be first on the list.

So you think that Kenpachi is town and should be punished for not following the plan?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 13 2011 18:21 GMT
#866
Mno, I think Kenpachi might be Traitor.

If not him then Kita.
But he did claim GF so in order to clear him we would need both Role and Alignment check on him.

It's pretty obvious that we have at least 1 mafia and 1 traitor in top 8. Do you have any better ideas?

The simple fact that Mafia didn't care and chose to take out Jackal is scary though. They just might have 3 KP or so.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 13 2011 18:23 GMT
#867
Why would the Traitor claim GF? A role that someone who would follow the plan (you're truely), would have picked and possibly hold?

So you are saying that deconduo isn't the SK and the mafia killed Jackal?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 13 2011 18:24 GMT
#868
Or Fish, forgot about fish.

But you can't deny that deconduo and kenpachi have been far far more detrimental to the town than anyone else so far. And now deconduo has a role that will probably keep him alive 'till the end of the game if we don't twist the knife.

Here's a deal. If deconduo is not gonna get lynched tonight, have him shoot me. If I flip blue/doctor, then lynch him. I'm willing to go 1 for 1.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 13 2011 18:31 GMT
#869
On January 14 2011 03:23 LSB wrote:
Why would the Traitor claim GF? A role that someone who would follow the plan (you're truely), would have picked and possibly hold?

So you are saying that deconduo isn't the SK and the mafia killed Jackal?


Because it's hard to prove incorrect if you're red (get recruited) since it would require two checks, and because it's easy to fake lol. "My ability is showing up as mafia!"

And I don't know who killed Jackal, but if a town did they should have claimed by now.
Unless town has CPR which is highly unlikely IMO.

Basically it's like this:
1. Number of KPs says that CPR is the game. Not 100% sure but highly likely.
2. What townie would pick CPR knowing that it would be one of the first picks?
3. If Mafia has CPR then they would've known #1 did not pick CPR, which means that #1 is Mafia.

Basically, the only other scenario that makes sense is that a townie picked CPR as a fluke and is now picking off random targets in a vigilante-like manner, which is slightly less dangerous than mafia having it, but dangerous none-the-less.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 13 2011 18:36 GMT
#870
Vote CubEdIn
His reasoning for a lynch is incredibly sketchy. He's saying we should lynch people based on how beneficial they are to the town, regardless of their alignment. He's completely ignoring the issue on whether someone is red or green.

This is a straightforward attempt at misdirecting the lynch.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 13 2011 18:44 GMT
#871
Sure it is.
I'm not changing my vote.

Still asking for the 1-on-1 with deconduo.

If you are sure about me, have HIM shoot me. That way you can save the lynch for another Mafia.
I didn't say you should lynch Kenpachi. I said you should lynch deconduo. Kenpachi would be my next choice on the list.

Speaking of which, doesn't it strike you as odd that people who have done horrible moves for the town are allowed to shove it under the rug, but I, who only claimed doctor with an extra trait deserves to die? That's pretty scummy LSB.

I mean I get BC, he's mad because I lied, but you're making up stuff as we go along.
Fine, lynch me. FoS on everyone trying to take the lynch off deconduo.

If he really is town, and you are all right, then have him shoot me. Fair, no?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
January 13 2011 18:45 GMT
#872
On January 14 2011 03:44 CubEdIn wrote:
Sure it is.
I'm not changing my vote.

Still asking for the 1-on-1 with deconduo.

If you are sure about me, have HIM shoot me. That way you can save the lynch for another Mafia.
I didn't say you should lynch Kenpachi. I said you should lynch deconduo. Kenpachi would be my next choice on the list.

Speaking of which, doesn't it strike you as odd that people who have done horrible moves for the town are allowed to shove it under the rug, but I, who only claimed doctor with an extra trait deserves to die? That's pretty scummy LSB.

I mean I get BC, he's mad because I lied, but you're making up stuff as we go along.
Fine, lynch me. FoS on everyone trying to take the lynch off deconduo.

If he really is town, and you are all right, then have him shoot me. Fair, no?


You do realise I'm not town right?
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 13 2011 18:46 GMT
#873
Then why are people taking the lynch off you?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
January 13 2011 18:46 GMT
#874
On January 14 2011 03:46 CubEdIn wrote:
Then why are people taking the lynch off you?


Read the thread.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 13 2011 18:53 GMT
#875
Well, that's what I'm saying.
You have your chance at using your shot.
If you're red, you know I'm town.

So go on with it.

We still have no 100% proof about anyone's role, part from aidnai's I guess.
(From the top few players who are still alive I mean).
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 19:02 GMT
#876
On January 14 2011 03:21 CubEdIn wrote:
Mno, I think Kenpachi might be Traitor.

If not him then Kita.
But he did claim GF so in order to clear him we would need both Role and Alignment check on him.

It's pretty obvious that we have at least 1 mafia and 1 traitor in top 8. Do you have any better ideas?

The simple fact that Mafia didn't care and chose to take out Jackal is scary though. They just might have 3 KP or so.


We could just role block & check him, but that's going to be a very calculated task and risky.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 13 2011 19:03 GMT
#877
I'm with LSB. Lynching people because they've 'wronged the town' is ridiculous. Decon is on our side for the time being, focusing on him now is a waste of time. Ken is still a major suspect for being red, but likely is the godfather-- So traitor's either you, kita, fishball, or amber, and kita's likely vet.
:3
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 13 2011 19:15 GMT
#878
How is keeping a Mafia alive a good idea no-matter-what?

Why? Take the best case scenario:
You kill another mafia first. So?

How is it better than killing them the other way around?

My most basic concern is this:
Are you 100% sure that deconduo was CC?

Is there a possibility that he actually was CPR and decided to come up with a way that the town doesn't influence his picks?
Basically, you're all making a choice between:
1. Kill a mafia, 100%, find out if he was lying or not, his role, etc.
2. Kill someone who claims is a doctor based on assumptions.

And LSB made you think that #2 is the better option, and that keeping Mafias alive is somehow good news for the town.

If you wanna keep him alive, have him kill me. That will at least prove he was day vigilante and you're not keeping mafia KP +1 each night.

Don't be thick, town.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 13 2011 19:37 GMT
#879
CubEdIn, a question. What role/alignment do you think deconduo is, because you really aren't making sense right now.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 13 2011 20:00 GMT
#880
Originally, I was going to push BC as a lynch candidate, due to being inactive for like 3 days, and posting this reason on why LoR should be lynched Day 1.
On January 11 2011 22:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
##vote layoffrage

Heading off to work and won't be back tonight, but LoR is the safest lynch target for today. Out of myself, fishball and him we are most likely the three most experienced players, and I know i'm town, which means at least one of fishball and him is most likely red. Out of those two, LoR has given the most reasons as why he is most likely a better lynch target.


Even though I've said this a few times:
On January 10 2011 10:12 Fishball wrote:
Oh, like I mentioned before, if I'm town, there is a good chance BC is red.


Surprisingly, BC posted a lot this morning...


So deconduo admitted he is SK, and the Town is keeping him alive because he is on "our side". It is possible to use him for kills, and off him if he stops behaving...
CubEdIn is being brought up for the lynch due to being a Traitor candidate, and some incoherent responses, although he did claim Doctor. (I doubt Ace will come out to clarify anything here)

So are we trying to pin Mafia for this lynch, or are we going for the Traitor? I've already mentioned why we shouldn't focus on finding the Traitor a couple days ago, but with me being a candidate as well, my credibility is shot. Hopefully you guys can choose the best course of action.
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