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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 15 2011 01:42 GMT
#1063
##vote: Bloddyc0bbler

Throwaway vote :/
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 15 2011 21:18 GMT
#1156
Missing a lynch is actually better than we could have hoped for. Think about it. We had to confirm someone was a certain role by using an ability, and we replaced the lynching with that power. I really don't think we had a strong lynch candidate. Keeping Fishball alive even if he's the traitor does not give mafia anything beneficial.

If mafia wants to convert Fishball he must be targeted by mafia (peace out mafia night KP).
If SK wants to shoot Fishball, then that's fine. We can use this to once again confirm Deconduo is a serial killer, and not mafia.
Or I could roleblock Fishball so if mafia was intending on converting he would just die instead (wasteful).

We need to keep the players we have alive around until we obtain additional information. Also to the doctors, please be smart about protection. There are certain roles we need to keep around, but roles don't equate alignment. Think about who you want to see around for future days, not who's role is most important.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 15 2011 23:02 GMT
#1160
Even if I did... who would you hit?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 15 2011 23:38 GMT
#1162
I can't do that, but I have an insurance policy to make sure that things work out as they should.

I think Dec should kill Fishball. From there we should work on the people who are slipping by without contributing much. They know who they are..
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 00:03 GMT
#1164
On January 16 2011 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 08:38 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I can't do that, but I have an insurance policy to make sure that things work out as they should.


Could you explain? I can't seem to think of the insurance policy you are referring to off the top of my head. If you don't want to tip off your target before the deadline, would it be possible to post between the deadline and night post?

I'm worried about the type of situation that could arise if I get killed, my hit doesn't go through, and I'm not alive to state whether or not I was role blocked.


I am not role blocking you, if that's what you're asking.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 01:03 GMT
#1167
On January 16 2011 09:48 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 08:38 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I can't do that, but I have an insurance policy to make sure that things work out as they should.

I think Dec should kill Fishball. From there we should work on the people who are slipping by without contributing much. They know who they are..


If you are pretty sure that fishball is the traitor and that it is worth it to switch to him, then sure. Bum seems to have come around a bit so maybe I was wrong about him.


I think taking out a mafia member should be more prioritized vs. taking out a potential traitor.

IMO Kenpachi should be your target. I still don't trust him.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 14:02 GMT
#1208
I was the person who was connected to Zeks. I had no idea that he was mafia, but I couldn't really trust him. Here is every correspondence between us throughout the game.

Also note I role blocked pigsquirrel, and he can confirm that.

Note I sent him a few extra PM's that were not included in this. I will fish them out and they will be posted below this PM chain...

Original Message From zeks:
By the page 16 list then you got these people with an action

Fishball - Medic (but he's likely traitor imo)
bumatlarge - Role Cop
Eiii - Parity Cop

assuming they had followed LSB's plan...afaik I think eiii said he was going to follow the plan and picked parity cop

but i don't think he has said a thing about his check night 1

and maybe a JOAT that got picked up.

Any of these would fish the traitor - well assuming the traitor wasn't already picked up by the scum

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
Yes.

but I'm afraid that the mafia team has two key red roles (read page 16). I'm not as worried about Fishball right now. We can lynch him whenever.

Original Message From zeks:
I think the medic(s) will probably protect you or kita

Although kita is pretty much our best way to win...even if he was SK.

Would roleblocking a traitor stop him from being recruited? If so then I'd suggest Fishball

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
don't claim me until the day. I'll tell you who I'm roleblocking in case I die. Medics _SHOULD_ protect me tonight, but don't publicize that.

Original Message From zeks:
In danger now of lurking....I'm going to claim myself

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
Ace does notify the role blocked players, just an FYI.

If Fishball flips traitor I would be willing to accept that LSB is protown. BC should then die. I really don't trust BC at all.

If Fishball flips anything else then Kenpachi and LSB should be looked at. They conspired to get the roles they wanted somehow. I think LSB might be the CPR since there was no other claim afaik. Deconduo might be in on this circle too.

Original Message From zeks:
you might want to reconfirm with Ace on this one

I don't know what hte policy is on roleblocking but usually I dont think the host tells the name of the roleblocker to the roleblocked person...



Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
On January 14 2011 10:26 Kenpachi wrote:
On January 14 2011 10:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
*correction I actually claimed overnight that I should be protected to avoid allowing the CC to take my role, so I technically did roleclaim, my bad.

I blocked who I was supposed to block for that night: Kenpachi

Yea Amber is a roleblocker as i can confirm this



WTF does this make any sense to you?

Original Message From zeks:
okay i wont claim then.

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
They aren't suspecting me of being a traitor. They know I'm the role blocker. If they start pressuring me then it's definitely a good idea. The problem is once you claim there will be more for mafia to work with. Best to just hang on to this in case we need to trap a player in a lie if they target you for something.

[quote]
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 16:08 GMT
#1211
On January 17 2011 00:18 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 23:02 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I was the person who was connected to Zeks. I had no idea that he was mafia, but I couldn't really trust him. Here is every correspondence between us throughout the game.

Also note I role blocked pigsquirrel, and he can confirm that.

Note I sent him a few extra PM's that were not included in this. I will fish them out and they will be posted below this PM chain...

Original Message From zeks:
By the page 16 list then you got these people with an action

Fishball - Medic (but he's likely traitor imo)
bumatlarge - Role Cop
Eiii - Parity Cop

assuming they had followed LSB's plan...afaik I think eiii said he was going to follow the plan and picked parity cop

but i don't think he has said a thing about his check night 1

and maybe a JOAT that got picked up.

Any of these would fish the traitor - well assuming the traitor wasn't already picked up by the scum

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
Yes.

but I'm afraid that the mafia team has two key red roles (read page 16). I'm not as worried about Fishball right now. We can lynch him whenever.

Original Message From zeks:
I think the medic(s) will probably protect you or kita

Although kita is pretty much our best way to win...even if he was SK.

Would roleblocking a traitor stop him from being recruited? If so then I'd suggest Fishball

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
don't claim me until the day. I'll tell you who I'm roleblocking in case I die. Medics _SHOULD_ protect me tonight, but don't publicize that.

Original Message From zeks:
In danger now of lurking....I'm going to claim myself

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
Ace does notify the role blocked players, just an FYI.

If Fishball flips traitor I would be willing to accept that LSB is protown. BC should then die. I really don't trust BC at all.

If Fishball flips anything else then Kenpachi and LSB should be looked at. They conspired to get the roles they wanted somehow. I think LSB might be the CPR since there was no other claim afaik. Deconduo might be in on this circle too.

Original Message From zeks:
you might want to reconfirm with Ace on this one

I don't know what hte policy is on roleblocking but usually I dont think the host tells the name of the roleblocker to the roleblocked person...



Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
[quote]


WTF does this make any sense to you?

[quote]


Oooooh more juicy tidbits. This may confirm amber, but there is also a chance one of zeks partners died night 1. I don't think a mason partner dying reveals that. Plus, that whole conversation would have had to been arranged, so yeah I believe amber.

Apparently from scum, fishball is traitor. Good to know, thanks mafia!


If Zeks was mason then I must be pro-town, according to his role description.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 20:19 GMT
#1220
You don't need confirmation. I'm not lying and I'm confirmed as pro-town.

Kitaman was not roleblocked. I send this PM to zeks so he would know who I role blocked.

+ Show Spoiler +
im goign out so i wont be around and im drunk already ...

i role blocked pigsquirrel

Original Message From zeks:
By the page 16 list then you got these people with an action

Fishball - Medic (but he's likely traitor imo)
bumatlarge - Role Cop
Eiii - Parity Cop

assuming they had followed LSB's plan...afaik I think eiii said he was going to follow the plan and picked parity cop

but i don't think he has said a thing about his check night 1

and maybe a JOAT that got picked up.

Any of these would fish the traitor - well assuming the traitor wasn't already picked up by the scum

Show nested quote +
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 21:03 GMT
#1224
On January 17 2011 05:47 bumatlarge wrote:
Amber, you are likely town, but not 100% town, because zeks could have been masoned to one of the dead players. I doubt mafia would kill that person, but it is one person they know is not SK. Just saying it's not certain. But it's not like we could role claim to you


I definitely don't want that much responsibility on my shoulders anyway.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 17 2011 04:44 GMT
#1279
On January 17 2011 13:26 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 12:59 bumatlarge wrote:
Jesus, it's like everyone glances through thread

"ANYTHING PERTAIN TO ME? REFUTE! OK GOODNIGHT."

I'd like to think fishball is town so that his zeks' list actually means something. But that would leave a traitor in these 4; Kenpachi, kitaman, Amber and cube. I will try to break these down right now so there is no confusion.

Kenpachi: Claimed GF
Proof - BC and LSB tried to grab GF also, LSB is dead SK vanilla. Bum Role checked.
- Chance of LSB lying is improbable, so GF is in the game. Both BC and bum would have to be lying. Ken has to be GF or these three are mafia
Not Traitor

kitaman27: Claimed Vig
Proof - None? Claimed RB from cube. This clears kita's story unless both cube and him are scum, but he is not proven Vig. You still get informed you get RB if you are vanilla AFAIK.
Possible Traitor

Amber[Light] Claimed RoleBlocker
Proof - Kenpachi confirmed he was roleblocked night 1? Unless Cube and amber are in cahoots, it's not something Amber would risk, and also amber was zeks mason. Don't think mason would ally with traitor. Pig also was RB'd night 2, hasn't said anything.
Not traitor Likely town

CubEdIn Claimed Doctor
Proof - Says it roleblocks at the same time. Now I can't make SHIT out of what cube says. He protected kita night 2and it said he was saved and roleblocked which means both are legit, or both are scum. Night 1, I think I've read the 20 pages after night 1 a bunch and I'm missing it. Can you clear this up cube? Might just be me missing it.
Not Traitor


Bum? I thought we had something special. I could have been your gender-confused batgirl!

This post seems very focused towards making me look bad. I admit I haven't been able to prove I'm vig, but think of it this way. The traitor does not want to eliminate other traitor suspects because that narrows down who could be the bad guy. I have been pushing fishball for two days now to get him lynched because I know I am not the traitor. Fishball has been ignoring the traitor hunt for the most part. I also took a hit last night. While that doesn't clear me, the scum clearly want me dead.

Show nested quote +
Zeks said:
Although kita is pretty much our best way to win...even if he was SK.


Even the scum mason admits I'm the town's best way to win. He also brings up this SK accusation. Seems like a common scum theme.

Could you explain your reasoning for thinking fishball is town? You pass him up for discussion without giving a solid reason why.

Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 13:08 Fishball wrote:
On January 17 2011 12:48 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 17 2011 12:19 Fishball wrote:
On January 17 2011 12:05 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 17 2011 11:48 Fishball wrote:
Truth - You did not list the possibility that you can be SK
Truth - You did not list the possibility that you might not be Vig.


Saying that I could be serial killer wouldn't make sense.

[*] Traitor - You hold no allegiance to the town. If you are targeted by Scum at night with any action, instead of that action happening you'll be recruited by them instead. You lose if the Mafia lose. However you are part of the town count before recruitment. This role is nullified for the Serial Killer(s) since it may be too broken if they have it.


Maybe if you keep calling me SK enough times, it might come true! I didn't list the possibility that I might not be vig because I know I am vig. I'll give you that.
So am I the person you suspect to be traitor?

On January 17 2011 11:48 Fishball wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:22 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:18 Pigsquirrel wrote:
Referring back to a rather old topic, but more relevant now that Fish is being accused of traitor/scum.
Amber switched his vote off of Fish and threw away the lynch. If Fish gets lynched, major FoS at Amber for switching off of him.

Also, I've tried to do some analysis on BC but completely suck as this is my first game. He's said quite a few things that seem like slips and has been very disruptive and seems manipulative, like LSB. I still don't trust him.

##vote BloodyC0bbler


Confirm you were role blocked last night?

lol @ bum. How dare you use your story telling abilities to prevent me from wanting to hit you. :p

Another lol @ fish for going back to calling my a SK.


You think you can just laugh it off, again?

I've also said this once to LSB. I don't care if you are Mafia/SK/Town/Bystander that is not playing the game, you cannot deny this.

It's almost like me saying, "lol @ kitaman27 for going back to calling me a Traitor".


Hmm, that seems vaguely familiar. Oh right!

On January 11 2011 07:57 Fishball wrote:
On January 11 2011 07:26 LayOffRage wrote:
Fishball is the traitor.


Oh... I'm also many things... in bed...


When, did I accuse you of being the Traitor. WHEN? Show me. Even any subtle sign, I would like to see you quote me.
A bit subjective here aren't we? Now I'm really inclined to see you flip.

##Vote kitaman27


When did I accuse you of accusing me of being the Traitor. WHEN? This is getting silly -_-

I asked you who you thought the traitor was with a list of possible suspects.
You responded by saying that I left out the fact that I could not be the vig.
I responded by asking if that omission meant you thought I was the traitor.

Thanks for voting at least. I wish the result of the town would get around to voting unless they want a no-lynch like the day before.


You are full of shit. So you're saying I'm not accusing you of Traitor, yet you ask:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 17 2011 12:05 kitaman27 wrote:
Maybe if you keep calling me SK enough times, it might come true! I didn't list the possibility that I might not be vig because I know I am vig. I'll give you that.
So am I the person you suspect to be traitor?

Then you proceed to "prove" that you can't be the Traitor and the SK at the same time.

Do you even make sense? Because I wasn't even talking about "who is the Traitor". I was talking about you.

The only comment I had regarding your list, was to point out the fact that you were hiding "certain" possibilities, something that you shouldn't do if you want to make your post convincing. I even said
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 17 2011 09:41 Fishball wrote:
Exactly, I don't need you to change your mind. I'm not going to bother, how hard is it to understand?

and earlier,
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 17 2011 09:10 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 07:11 kitaman27 wrote:
Fishball, could you at least address the traitor situation? If you are not the traitor then surely you would like yourself cleared.


Let me ask you, what is there for me to say? I've addressed the Traitor situation literally the entire game. It's proven no one gives a shit what I have to say.

It that doesn't tell you I'm not fucking talking about the Traitor, then I give up. To me, this is a huge slip up.


Wait, so do you think I'm the traitor? Based on this post it doesn't sound like it.

Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 12:19 Fishball wrote:
When, did I accuse you of being the Traitor. WHEN? Show me. Even any subtle sign, I would like to see you quote me.
A bit subjective here aren't we? Now I'm really inclined to see you flip.

##Vote kitaman27


So that probably means you think I'm scum. That means that you think the traitor is still in the top 8 and kenpachi, cube, or amber is the traitor? This isn't adding up. I have not slipped, you are getting desperate.

Town: Do you see what is happening here? Fishball is trying to make you guys turn on your town aligned kp. They already tried to kill me at night. Don't fall for this nonsense.


Just because you were "protected' does not mean you were actually targeted, nor does it prove that mafia attempted to target you, if anything.

I'm really suspicious of cubed AND kita right now. Cubed has put no effort into reading the thread or comprehending simple role concepts. It's so half-assed I can't make heads or tails of him and a bunch of the other players here.

Pigsquirrel is probably the Prince of Darkness. I'm banking on him following LSB's plan and if he did choose that role him and the janitor could be LETHAL (ie the game will end in the next few cycles) especially if they are both mafia aligned.

First things first. Pigsquirrel should come forward and start posting. You're very suspicious.

Next: If someone picked the Janitor role now's the time to come forward. That role is incredibly dangerous in the wrong hands. We need to know who has it, if anyone.

People who have not role claimed yet are under suspicion. After 70 pages of traitor hunting we have YET to come up with the traitor. The saddest part of all of this is some people are convinced that finding him is of the utmost importance. WE WILL LOSE IF WE CONTINUE THIS MANHUNT. We need to find scum not find a pro-town player that's could be converted. Jesus we know they are in the top 9 of the draft so start whittling away the list.

Deconduo is still under the lights right now. Something's not adding up and the town has been easily manipulated by some key players, and we're not even tracking his hits like we should be.

Bumatlarge & BC ... Both of you should have died by now. I'm assuming BC is actually mafia aligned because there's no way he should be alive, but we don't have the balls to lynch him. Even a half-competent mafia team would have taken him out night 1 if he was pro-town.

Kenpachi should be night killed. Derp he's the godfather and would probably like to be lynched...

If you sent in a night hit AND it does not match with the stories in this thread, please speak up. Silence will kill this town.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 17 2011 04:53 GMT
#1283
It feels like there's 8/5 scum remaining.

##vote: Fishball

He's not going to flip recruited mafia. This game is over for the town.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 17 2011 12:59 GMT
#1313
On January 17 2011 19:41 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 17:25 aidnai wrote:
Actually, something that would be good to know:
Ace, if a paranoid medic protects a vigilante, but the medic is killed by mafia/SK KP the same night, will the vigilante be protected and roleblocked or not?



Yes. All actions always go through.


So if I role block cubed and cubed protects me, who gets role blocked?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 18 2011 02:06 GMT
#1359
Well this was relieving, to say the least.

I can role block the SK, which I'm assuming will discount his kill I think. However doesn't BC believe that if FB flipped scum traitor that dec was actually mafia? If that's the case then I'm role blocking someone who has no power to block.

I think role blocking a lurker might be the best option. What do you guys think about the bulletproof claim-ee?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 18 2011 04:07 GMT
#1367
Can you still activate your power?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 18 2011 04:19 GMT
#1369
It would be a good idea for cubed to protect pig so he is unable to activate his ability since we're still unsure of his alignment.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 18 2011 23:19 GMT
#1387
On January 19 2011 08:10 HaploPaithan wrote:
Yeah, I didn't really think of it like that. It was a dick move. I was mostly gunning for a useful role that was below me. I didn't really like Pardoner.
Coming out before I had 2 reveals is stupid. And I was pretty busy after that and felt like waiting on the offchance that Eiii would claim Parity as well.


Well we wouldn't want you to be dissatisfied with your role.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 19 2011 02:46 GMT
#1418
On January 19 2011 11:43 CubEdIn wrote:
Hey, GG, I wasn't gonna protect PoD anyway, since I was hoping for a hit on him. Blame the actual roleblocker. ^_^


Derp i cant role block the same person consecutively.

Once again you've failed to read the role list.

GG town.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 22 2011 18:05 GMT
#1648
Definitely was banking on Kenpachi activating his lynch ability.

GG town...

This was a clusterfuck of a game and I probably contributed more than I should have to that. I did end up following LSB's plan but I wanted to take attention away (didn't work). It was clever of the mafia team to swap my role block, but it was foolish of cubed to not follow BC's night 3 plan at all.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
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