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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 09 2010 04:49 GMT
#110
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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 09 2010 22:42 GMT
#152
Doesn't it say in 1 of the guides posted that lynching an inactive day 1 is not something you should do?
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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 10 2010 00:43 GMT
#189
Can someone explain how inactives are harmful for the town? I know it's an extra person for the detective to check but isn't it also an extra person scum needs to kill?
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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 10 2010 03:01 GMT
#276
On December 10 2010 11:57 Gabriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 11:44 Kenpachi wrote:
On December 10 2010 11:40 Gabriel wrote:
On December 10 2010 11:34 Kenpachi wrote:
On December 10 2010 11:20 Gabriel wrote:
Interesting: my half good "im new" shot is now voting for me. Kenpachi care to explain

A) your vote
B) your deep posts?

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On December 10 2010 07:11 Kenpachi wrote:
oh shit.. i cant really imagine Professor Oak dead D:

On December 10 2010 07:47 Kenpachi wrote:
Pikachu - Townie
Raichu - Miller
Chansey - Medic
Cloyster - Veteran
Alakazam - Detective
Electrode - Mad Hatter
Mew - Special Detective

Gengar - God Father
Koffing - Mafia Grunt
Weezing - Mafia Shrink

Mewtwo - 3rd Party Vigilante

notice how our only way of killing at night is Mad Hatter and 3rd party.. 3rd party is technically against us and will probably kill town over mafia due to immunity and their goal is to be last alive.

On December 10 2010 07:50 Kenpachi wrote:
yea claiming is a no no. and i hate lynching inactives. doesnt work at all.

On December 10 2010 08:01 Kenpachi wrote:
how many people can Mafia target per night?

On December 10 2010 08:12 Kenpachi wrote:
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On December 10 2010 08:11 Eiii wrote:
There always seem to be posts about how we all need to establish a 'pro-town environment', which is obvious of course I (and I'm sure lots of other newer players) have no clue what that *means* though, especially when we can't PM each other. (That might turn out to be more of a blessing than a curse though.)

So... can someone enlighten me?

basically, where we can point out scum easily without confusing them as town.. i think

On December 10 2010 08:14 Kenpachi wrote:
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On December 10 2010 08:13 KtheZ wrote:
Do we have a limited amount of double lynches?

I think its 2.



what would posting history 4 hours into the game show you?

A) You dont want to be active posting
B) You want to "look" active
C) You read the rules but you actually dont know mafia KP? That was rare.
D) You dont want to lynch inactives because that doesnt work.
E) You want enlightment.
F) You vote for me out of literally nowhere. I mean: i post to flip Infundibulum and you come right after me. Care to explain at least?

A) 4 hours does not judge that. what if i went on TL tomorrow for the first time in the past 3 days?
B) Anyone who posts would want to look active.. Why would they post if they want to look inactive?
C) Why are you assuming i read the rules? how do you know i didnt just assume the KP?
D) It doesnt. shh
E) ?? its enlightenment
F) I dont agree with you voting for Infundibulum.

A) Well you just wrote 7 one liners and have yet to post something relevant.
B) But you are NOT. It is not about how you look. Come on that is not an argument, so you post one liners to look active? what is that? Sparta?
C) Well you actually read the rules because you posted the pokemon/classicmafia relation. I wonder why you just couldnt look for the mafia KP, and insisted to look clueless asking for it.
D) It doesnt? well you were pretty much inactive and so was Infundibulum. Maybe it does.
E) You think too much. You have again 2 posts where you "think" about this "think" about that, when it is clear that those post refer to info available in the opening rules. This heavily smells like "im not too sure, i dont know" plot.
F) So you agree that you are protecting infundibulum by voting me: More reason to flip him!.


This logic is flawed since the game just started. So they didn't post right at the start and their first post was later then a lot of people's. So they were inactive til their first post? What about all the other people that haven't posted yet. When they make their first post are you going to say the same thing about them? After all, they were even later and therefore must be even more suspicious?
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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 11 2010 08:29 GMT
#394
I am going to have to agree with Gabe's points on zeks. So far his votes have been very wishy washy and he seems to change them very randomly. He bandwagons on Infundibulum at the start of the game without really giving much evidence and then later he switches to some random inactive player for which he doesn't give a reason other than "inactiveness"
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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 11 2010 20:27 GMT
#433
On December 12 2010 05:00 zeks wrote:
What was infundibulums slip up?

"by the way new players should read this link:

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=JEEP's_Tells_for_Finding_the_Cop

i would ignore the numbers part. there are some interesting articles on the mafia scum wiki, but do not take them as gospel. i gather that the playstyle over there is somewhat different."

Is what I found fishy. Same with LSB's reasoning.

Why are you so defensive on your posting?
I don't think I'm that defensive, I just don't like it when people sound angry =|


Why did you actually change your vote without a "fair inactive list" just as you said you would do?


I actually voted Stormtemplar after LSB made the inactive list. What I meant by "fair" was to have the list made after the first day to give people a chance to post if they haven't.

Do you still insist on voting a random inactive even when he is going to get modkilled?

No. I was under the impression that modkills happen after being inactive for 2 cycles consecutively from other games. Since DH reiterated the modkill policy I'm likely to change my vote.

What do you think about people voting Kenpachi?
I don't think Kenpachi is scum because he's being too blatant with the soft claim and all the other mindless posting he's done and if he was his scum buddies would've told him to shut up by now.

But its interesting to note how the voting has gone so far:

1. Infun gets 3 votes (LSB, me and you)
2. You get stacked on with 6 votes soon after
3. You FoS me and now I got 5 and Kenpachis got 6 now

Pretty much everyone who voted infun right away got scrutinized. As for your question - probably some scum in there. We're in practically a 3 way tie...scum could already have started to spread their votes out because of no scum candidate on the chopping block. So yes for now I think you're not scum either, nor Kenpachi.



1. What was fishy about Infundibulum's post? Is it that it's a guide to finding cops and that's generally something a mafia would be looking into? Or did you just think it was possibly unhelpful because of the different playstyle mentioned. I mean if he wanted to post a guide to finding mafia I find it difficult to believe that he "slipped up" putting the wrong url. It clearly states in the url Tells_for_Finding_the_Cop, after all.

2. You claim that you were unsure of the modkill policy when Infundibulum clearly stated we shouldnt lynch inactives day 1 because of the modkill policy in this game, the reason he got some flack (aside from his past game history that is). Considering you were talking about Infundibulum's "slip ups", it seems strange that you would miss this.

3. The last sentence just seems like you are trying to deflect suspicion by appealing to your main accuser by saying that you don't think he's scum either. Also you included Kenpachi in there along with yourself and Gabe, the 3 main people under scrutiny at this point, which makes me think that you are trying to say something like "Oh, I don't think any of these people under scrutiny are scum right now. Let's just wipe the slate clean and start over guys." Also as stated by tree.hugger, you didn't offer anyone else except
"I don't have a strong feeling for anyone but anyone who's posted once or twice this whole game just to agree/disagree is a good bet"
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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 14 2010 22:05 GMT
#626
Hey guys I haven't posted since I've had finals and in the midst of all of it I thought there was another 24 hours in this day. For now I will place my vote zeks as a placeholder because of the reasons I stated during day 1 and I'll stand by them until I can get a better read. However I'll take the time to read through the thread now to see if there's anything that might change my mind.
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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 15 2010 00:55 GMT
#649
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 15 2010 08:32 BrownBear wrote:
I am here, voting for myself again because I'm not superconvinced by any arguments so far. That said, having Hesmyrr as a (mostly) confirmed town voice is nice.


On December 14 2010 03:41 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 12:34 chaoser wrote:
On December 13 2010 12:27 BrownBear wrote:
Youch. So tree.hugger either voltorb'd one of the two other deaths (probably jcarlson) or he forgot to place one.

Well, that sucks.


Pretty sure if someone died from voltorb's they would be reported as such. It was stated that no one died from the one that exploded. That's generally how mad hatters work. Kinda strange that you didn't know that...you've played enough games lol


I was assuming night hit took priority over voltorbsplosion. I could be wrong, though, forgot about the existence of Mewtwo.


On December 13 2010 12:27 BrownBear wrote:
Youch. So tree.hugger either voltorb'd one of the two other deaths (probably jcarlson) or he forgot to place one.

Well, that sucks.



On December 13 2010 10:50 BrownBear wrote:
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On December 13 2010 07:56 DarthThienAn wrote:
My point is that, we're not here to lynch people we don't like. We're here to lynch mafia.


Heh, remember policy lynches? Those were fun.

As for not noticing ken's activity... well, herp de derp. I are tired.


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On December 13 2010 07:55 Infundibulum wrote:

I actually think Brocket might be a smurf and he's playing the newbie card to cover that up. Some of the questions are downright silly ("the mafia know who's on their team, right?")


Who gives a crap. The endless "WHO ARE TEH SMURF" arguments don't really help us find mafia.


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On December 13 2010 06:24 Gabriel wrote:
On December 13 2010 06:23 zeks wrote:
On December 13 2010 06:06 LSB wrote:

AFAIK Zeks is also increadibly scummy in the other games he plays.


What other games have I been scum in?

LOL are you just agreeing you are scum?


No... stop. He didn't say he was scum, that would be retarded. zeks is not retarded.


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On December 12 2010 15:33 Gabriel wrote:
What is done, is done. Right now the best for us is Gabriel's random lists (absolutely random and out of nowhere).

Rolecheck list:
+ Show Spoiler +

Eiii
DCLXVI
Hesmyrr


Protection list:
+ Show Spoiler +

node
d3_crescentia
jcarlsoniv


Voltorb list:
+ Show Spoiler +

tree.hugger
dimnsab
deconduo




Again, why? This is just spam and serves no purpose except to clog up the thread. (I applaud your tenacity with the bbcode though )

At this point, though, I find it hard to paint anyone as definitively scum - zeks has some arguments for him, but has also been this scummy in the past (and been a town). Gabriel is misleading/wrong most of the time, but if he were actually scum, there's no way in hell he'd be this active. Unless that's part of his grand scheme?

w/e, those are the two guys I'm currently looking at. Maybe they'll post more and help me paint a better picture.


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On December 13 2010 00:26 flamewheel wrote:
obligatory lol post


This was what I was gonna do before I got subbed in ^^


On December 13 2010 03:34 BrownBear wrote:
iiiinteresting. It seems like town decided (again) to bandwagon onto an "inactive" then all went AFK and didn't switch onto a far more scummy person. Oh well, fairly standard for TL day 1, I guess.

I'm still torn as to whether an Alakazam should check zeks tonight, and report back. On one hand, we do want to be 100% sure. On the other, he's proven to be a decent lynch target already, and we really don't want to waste an Alakazam this early...

Gah.



On December 15 2010 08:32 BrownBear wrote:
I am here, voting for myself again because I'm not superconvinced by any arguments so far. That said, having Hesmyrr as a (mostly) confirmed town voice is nice.



Here are all of BrownBear's posts in this thread so far unless I have missed any. As you can see pretty much all of it is him saying that he isn't convinced of anything and that he's voting for himself. He also says some things that aren't very useful such as the town bandwagoning on an inactive and some non commital statements about zeks and that perhaps Alakazam perhaps should check him to appear helpful.

He hasn't really contributed anything at all since the start of the game. It's probably too late to lynch BrownBear today but I would definitely keep an eye on him day 3. I'm probably voting for him on day 3 unless better arguments come out for someone else.
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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 15 2010 01:15 GMT
#651
Quotes are from most recent to oldest cause I messed up when copying pasting. I'm not really sure if there's an easier way to multi quote.

On December 15 2010 08:32 BrownBear wrote:
I am here, voting for myself again because I'm not superconvinced by any arguments so far. That said, having Hesmyrr as a (mostly) confirmed town voice is nice.


Not committing to anyone and votes for himself again as he did on day 1. Also says something about Hesmyrr that everyone already knew, not adding anything new.

On December 14 2010 03:41 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 12:34 chaoser wrote:
On December 13 2010 12:27 BrownBear wrote:
Youch. So tree.hugger either voltorb'd one of the two other deaths (probably jcarlson) or he forgot to place one.

Well, that sucks.


Pretty sure if someone died from voltorb's they would be reported as such. It was stated that no one died from the one that exploded. That's generally how mad hatters work. Kinda strange that you didn't know that...you've played enough games lol


I was assuming night hit took priority over voltorbsplosion. I could be wrong, though, forgot about the existence of Mewtwo.


On December 13 2010 12:27 BrownBear wrote:
Youch. So tree.hugger either voltorb'd one of the two other deaths (probably jcarlson) or he forgot to place one.

Well, that sucks.


In these 2 posts he offers a little insight on what could have happened in the night but the posts themselves are pretty useless as far as finding scum. Spam

On December 13 2010 10:50 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 07:56 DarthThienAn wrote:
My point is that, we're not here to lynch people we don't like. We're here to lynch mafia.


Heh, remember policy lynches? Those were fun.

As for not noticing ken's activity... well, herp de derp. I are tired.

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 07:55 Infundibulum wrote:

I actually think Brocket might be a smurf and he's playing the newbie card to cover that up. Some of the questions are downright silly ("the mafia know who's on their team, right?")


Who gives a crap. The endless "WHO ARE TEH SMURF" arguments don't really help us find mafia.


Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 06:24 Gabriel wrote:
On December 13 2010 06:23 zeks wrote:
On December 13 2010 06:06 LSB wrote:

AFAIK Zeks is also increadibly scummy in the other games he plays.


What other games have I been scum in?

LOL are you just agreeing you are scum?


No... stop. He didn't say he was scum, that would be retarded. zeks is not retarded.


Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 15:33 Gabriel wrote:
What is done, is done. Right now the best for us is Gabriel's random lists (absolutely random and out of nowhere).

Rolecheck list:
+ Show Spoiler +

Eiii
DCLXVI
Hesmyrr


Protection list:
+ Show Spoiler +

node
d3_crescentia
jcarlsoniv


Voltorb list:
+ Show Spoiler +

tree.hugger
dimnsab
deconduo




Again, why? This is just spam and serves no purpose except to clog up the thread. (I applaud your tenacity with the bbcode though )

At this point, though, I find it hard to paint anyone as definitively scum - zeks has some arguments for him, but has also been this scummy in the past (and been a town). Gabriel is misleading/wrong most of the time, but if he were actually scum, there's no way in hell he'd be this active. Unless that's part of his grand scheme?

w/e, those are the two guys I'm currently looking at. Maybe they'll post more and help me paint a better picture.


Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 00:26 flamewheel wrote:
obligatory lol post


This was what I was gonna do before I got subbed in ^^


Here he complains about spam yet that's all he posts. He says a few things to diffuse suspicion on zeks and Gabriel but against doesn't commit to anything and doesn't offer any new suspects.

On December 13 2010 03:34 BrownBear wrote:
iiiinteresting. It seems like town decided (again) to bandwagon onto an "inactive" then all went AFK and didn't switch onto a far more scummy person. Oh well, fairly standard for TL day 1, I guess.

I'm still torn as to whether an Alakazam should check zeks tonight, and report back. On one hand, we do want to be 100% sure. On the other, he's proven to be a decent lynch target already, and we really don't want to waste an Alakazam this early...

Gah.


Another spammy post. Complains about the town bandwagoning on an "inactive" player even though Kenpachi wasn't inactive. Then mentions that zeks could perhaps be Alakazam checked but then also goes on to say that we probably don't want to waste a check on him.

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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 20 2010 12:08 GMT
#1048
Putting my votes on Brownbear and dinmsab for now, both for being inactive and not really contributing anything. (Yes, I know I have been inactive as well but I can't really help it.)
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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 21 2010 07:11 GMT
#1111
Please don't modkill me I've been busy with stuff =(
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Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
December 21 2010 07:26 GMT
#1116
On December 21 2010 15:30 LSB wrote:
Please modkill Oceanic for faluire to post in the cycle

Please hit mafia... That actually could keep us in the game


Just for the record, I did post in this cycle.
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