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On December 20 2010 08:29 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 08:22 LSB wrote:On December 20 2010 08:12 BrownBear wrote:On December 20 2010 07:24 Kavdragon wrote:Ok, to make sure we are all on the same page, here's the situation: We are currently at 8/5/1. By lynch, or M2's night kill, we must kill two mafia two days in a row to survive. Here is my bubble, let me know if I did anything wrong. (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5751/mafiaendgame.jpg if you want to see it un-resized, and not blurry) ![[image loading]](http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5751/mafiaendgame.jpg) This means that we cannot lynch M2. (For at least two nights, anyways) On December 20 2010 05:40 BrownBear wrote:
##Vote: DCLXVI
##Vote: d3_crescentia
##Vote: Double Lynch
You appear to have slipped sir. Vote Brownbear. I waited to post this to see if anyone would vote D3, Brownbear didn't disappoint. Also, this may or may not make DCLXVI less suspicious. You decide. I disagree with you, but then, I'm biased against town alliances w/ 3rd parties. They never work out well for anyone. Personally, my view is that if we know who MewTwo is, we should lynch him. End of story. What do you think we should do today if we don't work with MewTwo then? Also, how will the numbers look like? Mewtwo has failed to net us a single TR kill so far. I highly doubt that he will. Lets say we lynch a TR and Mewtwo today. That will put us, after night kills, at 7 to 4. Now, let's say we lynch 2 TRs today, That's 2 kills from them, then a kill from Mewtwo which will put us at either 7 to 3 or 6 to 3. However, that's relying on Mewtwo to actually hit a TR - something I highly doubt will happen. Or how about 1 TR, 1 Town. We have 8 town to 4 TR and mewtwo left, that's 4 nightkills, unless we get HUGELY lucky, we could be put in a 4-4 situation where we'd be absolutely fucked. We're basically in LYLO at this point, we need to kill off the anti-town players we know. And we know d3 is anti-town.
All right then.
Who should we lynch then? What about you? You seem pretty TR.
Also, how would be know that our lynch is going to hit TR? What makes it so much more accurate than a M2 hit?
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I'm thinking that DCXLIV was also mafia, and we were able to root out two mafia yesterday...
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What have you contributed dinmsab?
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Both Brownbear and dinmsab have been out of sync with what the town has been doing. And now finally on this day they show up and suddenly try to defend themselves.
I have no idea what Brownbear is doing. His proposal to kill the third party is incredibly scummy.
On December 20 2010 14:38 d3_crescentia wrote:
You guys make it sound like I'm some sort of bad puppy.
The more I think about it the more I'm convinced Shockeyy was a sacrifice made by the mafia. Shockeyy himself gave us no leads anywhere, and if I recall no one really stepped up to defend him. Without the modkills yesterday we could've been at 12/5/1, which means you could have afforded to lynch me and some other dude that the mafia would have drawn you to, and then hopefully take the game at 8/5. But then there were the modkills, so things have changed.
I think that Shockeyy's vote list has to contain a few mafia, though it's quite possible they just split their vote between our three candidates yesterday. Note that Oceanic and dinmsab both had single votes for themselves/Gabriel respectively. Quite frankly I'm more than willing to buy that they're town - or at least, put our focus elsewhere for the time being. Did Shockeyy's death give anyone any more credibility? LSB's voted Shockeyy on Day 2, so I am thinking that should clear him as town-ish. It leaves Gabriel, deconduo, KtheZ, GGQ and Infundibulum as targets for analysis.
This would make Node most likely to be mafia, should the mafia have actually split their votes. The Node/DCLXVI conversation points to Node being more likely mafia as well. Unfortunately as mentioned I'm not sure that mafia need to risk another player at this point in time. If he dies blue today we may need to reconsider DCLXVI for tonight.
We have DCLXVI, Kavdragon, Eiii, Brownbear and Shockeyy on me yesterday. Shockeyy was scum as we found out; Kavdragon is likely town and Eiii is questionable. DCLXVI's fate is tied with Node's in my view.
As for Brownbear, if he was town and so vehemently believed that an alliance would be unfruitful, he should have been pushing for my lynch harder yesterday, because the town will be in LYLO no matter what happens to me today.
Again, this is dependent on the logic of Shockeyy being sacrificed, because I think he could have easily kept silent and let the town flounder a little longer without a target.
I agree that the mafia may have bused Shockeyy... however, I think its because DCLXVI was also scum so the mafia had no choice at all.
I am left unsatisfied with DCLXVI's response, so I will be voting for him. In addition, I want to shy away from lynching dinmsab, especially since how fast the lynch was formed.
So I'm voting for DCLXVI and Brownbear.
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Wait... why is Node getting lynched?
In this setup there should be at least two DTs, and since no one has counterclaimed, isn't Node our second DT?
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D3, why are you pushing for the Node lynch?
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I'm cloyster
But, I'm all for killing Infun, or DCXLIV
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I still think Infun, GGQ, and KtheZ should be modkilled...
At least infun and GGQ should be mafia... Dunno what to think about KtheZ
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Please modkill Oceanic for faluire to post in the cycle
Please hit mafia... That actually could keep us in the game
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Well... If oceanic flips red, town's still in the game.
Right now its 5/5/1
Flip oceanic red, Infun is red, mafia hits two townies (KP is reduced)
3/3/1
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Just wishful thinking 
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I swear this cycle was suppose to end at 10:00, I even camped the thread with multiple different vote switches, expecting you to make a move.
DCLXIV doesn't have any bombs, cause he's red so I'm cool with killing him too.
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In other news, I can't find the moon from my window and I reallly don't want to go outside.
Maybe I'll wait till 3:00 EST
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KtheZ/kav/dcxlvi right? Maybe throw an Ocianic in there too
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Guess I wasn't a cloyster.
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Hmm.. I should have exploited fake claiming as townie more. LAL can be an issue, but hey, if it gets people lynched, I'm all for it
A day 4 claim that I checked DC as red, and Gabe as green would be pretty intresting.
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Oh yes Brocket, I was very protective of my Shockeyy lynch, and didn't want to mess it up, so I became a bit more closed mind about DCXLIV
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On December 22 2010 15:58 Node wrote:
Son of a bitch. I was technically correct with my false claim, but I managed to get the Gengar. I need to learn to pursue these things more -- trust my gut, stick to my guns, push what I believe and damn the consequences. The one game I really did that in (assassin in the palace) it won me the game. If I had done so this time, I may have been able to get two TR lynched. :p
Reading kingjames' post reminded me of something I heard somewhere: Poker isn't a card game, it's a betting game. On the same note, Mafia is a game of manipulation, not a game of voting / roles / etc.
Dude that would be awesome! If you stuck that would take taken out you and Gengar, and then maybe we'd follow up on Eiii.
That's why I love vigilante/Mad Hatters. All you have to do is kill the mafia. You don't have to explain yourself
On December 22 2010 16:49 DCLXVI wrote:@LSB I can't believe you actually bought my electrode claim
I didn't =P, I voted and pushed for you at the end, but of course, I just gave up
On December 22 2010 22:28 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 15:36 LSB wrote:
Oh yes Brocket, I was very protective of my Shockeyy lynch, and didn't want to mess it up, so I became a bit more closed mind about DCXLIV "my shockeyy lynch" Lol.
Okay... I might be a bit of a pyscko adopted parent, but I take care of the lynches I push, and watch as they grow up and become fully matured
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On December 22 2010 22:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 19:01 d3_crescentia wrote:On December 22 2010 16:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok now that this game is over I can ask who killed me and why? I thought I would have been a terrible night one hit. I did. It was a gut call based on how noob you were posting and but it turned out you were just what you appeared. I figured Night 1 I'd be okay if I missed anyway. Sorry =/ For my night 2 I was actually torn between Inf/Darth, as I thought one of them had to be mafia. In the end I picked Darth so that was unfortunate. Night 3 I followed LSB's suggestion to hit brocket. Originally my plan was to target DC or LSB had the heat not been brought down on me. I should've pushed harder for DC; also I missed out on the chainsaw defense tell by Kavdragon. Silly, silly me. Also, apologies to Brownbear. Looks like you had the right of it. yeah on that "why did you kill me?" note, I pose the same question. I had only posted once that I was getting around to reading the thread, although that does make me happy that I didn't.
On the "why did you kill me" note, was claiming Cloyster effective in moving mafia hits away from me? I might want to do it in future games.
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