EPTI've never supported Zeks, I only suggested Gabe was a higher priority because there is evidence (set up or otherwise) pointing against him.
I'll thrown in an extra. Whether zeks or gabe gets voted out as townie, I'll vote myself day 3. No worries.
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Brocket
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I've never supported Zeks, I only suggested Gabe was a higher priority because there is evidence (set up or otherwise) pointing against him. I'll thrown in an extra. Whether zeks or gabe gets voted out as townie, I'll vote myself day 3. No worries. | ||
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Brocket
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It was mostly for dramatic effect. I'm just saying I don't care if I get voted off as long as I know gabe is a townie or a mafia. There is just too much evidence against him with the events transpiring from night 1 combined with his voting process both day 1 and day 2 for me to avoid FoS on gabe. | ||
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Brocket
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People springing to mind: LSB (really quick change vote from gabe to shockey and muddied the anti gabe arguments, didn't offer much on zeks even though zeks earned compelling arguments). Oceania &Seraph (said to death, lack of posts and jumping on teh wagon. I don't think much about posters like these but even I noticed a lack of posts from Oceania and Seraph. It's way too easy to sit back and vote, you got to get in the game if you want to stay). Amber (really quick on voting Shockeyy, way too quick especially when we were already divided about zeks and gabriel. d3 has distanced himself from you and i think lsb will plan to as well.) But I'm going to let other people talk now. I feel like my posts have made some people shy away from posting their ideas/opinions which isn't good. Please post something you think has happened or looks strange. As far as me voting myself: I will vote myself if suspicion falls on me and you guys want to confirm I'm a townie. I already said that I believed zeks/gabe were mafia and I'm already half wrong. | ||
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Brocket
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Lurk mode ON. | ||
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Brocket
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Also hesmyrr was replaced by pandain right? So essentially the vet took two hits. Maybe the 1st time was an explosion and this time by mafia. Also d3 claims to take the 4th hit. How would you know? If a medic protects you from an attack, would you be notified? Doubtful. I'm guessing d3 is most likely mewtwo. At this stage mewtwo would do well to eliminate would be mafias now since townie death rate is way too high. Also Amber did some scummy behaviour creating a 3rd quick wagon when the day was ending. I just didn't think it was good play. Can the real towns people not do this in the future? Should we continue discussion Shockey? Gabe has missed the votes twice. He has posted much less frequently since day 1 maybe because I've been pretty hard on him. But I'm taking it as scum behaviour. Post some more gabe. | ||
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Brocket
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DCLXVI even bought attention to himself about the two voters against him being eliminated via analysing insanious. So it's a sign of honesty but the fact is still suss. I'm still not trusting Gabe because of kenpachi+ jcarl. d3 hasn't been very consistent, that much is true. Why is it that townies seem to crumble when they are accused, you've got nothing to hide, don't make things worse by blurting out names and getting unnecessarily offended by accusation. | ||
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Brocket
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Yeh it's going to happen. Just figure out who is suss again? I'm a bit uneasy about DC, sure he's been helpful but he had 2 accusers that got eliminated. Gabe also has had his accusers lynched (apart from me) and escaped the noose twice. There was LSB who said mafia may set GAbe up. But really not likely. Maybe they can make it more obvious that they're trying hard to set up gabe if they kill me night 2. Then maybe gabe is townie after all via LSB's logic. Do you really buy that? | ||
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Brocket
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On December 17 2010 16:32 DCLXVI wrote: Umm, I am a bit confused brocket. How did you go from this post To this: If I am reading this right you say in the first post I look a little more innocent and gabe looks guilty, then you completely flip and say the opposite? Do you have reasons for doing so? I didn't say you were off the hook DC. I was implying that since I don't trust gabe I also don't trust you in the 1st quote. There is no flipping and no 'little more' innocent. You're both suss. Get my point? | ||
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Brocket
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EVENTS that townies should give a shit about: D3 claims to be mewtwo. Town is COOL with this. WE LOVE m2. Why? Because if townies lose then m2 loses at this stage since zero mafia are dead. Also Mafia have zero ways of killing m2 except by vote. Look at this. LOOK AT IT. d3_crescentia DCLXVI Kavdragon Eiii BrownBear deconduo You must vote one of these guys. Any of them. Shockeyy could be the 6th but not sure. My suggestion is, hop onto the god damn DC wagon or else I'm going to suss you out next, got it? ##VOTE double lynch. ##Vote DCLXVI. You KNOW it makes sense. Make the mafia fail in killing m2, kill a mafia, get 2 lynches for next day. Why the hell would you NOT do it and spread our votes between shockeyy, gabe, LSB. What the fuck? Get with the program pikachus. HRRRRRRNNNGGGGHHH. | ||
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Brocket
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I'm not sure about shockeyy but DC and gabe have been suss. Don't you think there's sufficient evidence against DC too? It makes no sense voting d3 if we know he took the hit. If he's not a vet he's mewtwo. In either case the mafia want to save up a night kill by lynching him. Does it not make sense then to avoid that by lynching? We can use a mewtwo. Kind of sad if shockey turns out to be a medic but if you are still compelled go ahead and vote him. I'd rather see shockeyy go than d3 at this point. My vote is still on DC. | ||
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Brocket
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Gabe is pretty dirty, LSB is getting dirtier each post. I duno about Infund yet because he doesn't post enough. All i know is LSB was the first one to think I was suss, Gabe jumps on that and agrees. Infund also randomly agrees. Come at me, bro. | ||
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Brocket
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Shock has reacted by saying he's medic. That's up to you if believe him. I'm sticking with DC. My picks are with DC or gabe, they both have eliminated their accusers in the past in this very game. I still am keen on lynching gabe in the future. Will this get me killed? Probably. But then I can be like a martyr so you can go hunt their asses down later. | ||
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Brocket
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if you saved d3 then d3 wouldn't know he was hit or saved by you would he? d3 said, shockey said. What's going on here? | ||
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Night 3. 2 man enter. 1 man leave. Make it so Shockey+ d3, make it so. | ||
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I said DC was mafia for 2 reasons. He had 2 previous accusers killed off and he started the d3 bandwagon. Yet somehow it's my fault for his actions? What? Is it getting through that accusers of DC in previous nights have been killed? 2 of them? Gabe you were always suss. Now you're saying I don't make any sense? Please tell me how I did not make sense when I said d3 was m2 and we wanted to keep him? I voted dc and encouraged people to do so for the reason I just gave at the top of this post. Y'know, the same reason you're suss? Kenpachi, jcarl, dodged votes 2 days in a row. Ring a bell gabe? Tell me again, do I not make sense? I've always used logic in every single god damn post I made. I already said I wasn't that sold on shockey as opposed to DC but I encouraged DC and shockey votes. I didn't entirely buy into the medic call either, I stuck with Dc. You can check my post in page 44 "@ LSB: I'm not sure about shockeyy but DC and gabe have been suss. Don't you think there's sufficient evidence against DC too? It makes no sense voting d3 if we know he took the hit. If he's not a vet he's mewtwo. In either case the mafia want to save up a night kill by lynching him. Does it not make sense then to avoid that by lynching? We can use a mewtwo. Kind of sad if shockey turns out to be a medic but if you are still compelled go ahead and vote him. I'd rather see shockeyy go than d3 at this point. My vote is still on DC." DC if you think I'm random accusing for no reason you then you've just ignored every goddamn post I've typed since you did your 'analysis'. People agreed with my logical reasoning, deal with it. And gabe. fucking lol. Tell you what, I'll give you another post to criticise me, properly this time, before I start again with you. Try put some thought into it. I'm 22 by the way in case you needed that info again. | ||
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Brocket
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On December 18 2010 14:44 Gabriel wrote: @Brocket: Since you dont make any sense at all im going to ask you a very easy question: How do you feel about lynching dimnsab tomorrow? He has been an actual lurker all game long and seems to be interested into let the game just go as long as he is alive. Do you think he is mafia? Brocket will think on this. And immediately get back to you by saying meh. He's not a bad vote. I'm pretty bad on inactives since for me it comes down to pot luck. Go for it, but I still don't think din is as scummy like as you or DC. | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:37 Insanious wrote: Starting this post to help town while I sleep (was out all day too sorry, will come back and post more tomorrow I promise... well untill tomorrow night when I have to leave, but for like 10 hours during the day... ya I'm busy now.) Anyway, will come back and post more later, but just want to start with this... I want to FoS Brocket... for a single reason, since page 30 (when d3 FoS'd Shockeyy), Brocket was been trying to diffuse the vote and move votes onto Gabriel. Brocket did not out right try to defend Shockeyy at all at the end, but simply responded to every attack on Shockeyy with another post saying "I don't think Shockeyy is mafia, but Gabriel...." As well, Brocket FoS'd seraph and LSB once during his last 11 posts (which are how many times he tried to move the votes from Shockeyy onto Gabriel). - - - - Now post analysis of Shockeyy's posts have show a few things: - LSB = Town (obviously) - Gabriel = Town (less obviously, but Shockeyy was one of the first to bandwagon gabriel, constantly tried to kill gabriel, and gabriel was one of the first to vote for Shockeyy) - Seraph = Town (Seraph was the 3rd person to publicly post they were voting for Shockeyy, who is mafia. IF Seraph was mafia he would of switched his vote off of Shockeyy at the end to try and save his mafia buddy.) Please note, that Brocket FoS'd these three players multiple times, the ones that started the FoS on Shockeyy. - - - - To not forget about d3, Brocket also FoS'd D3 a lot until D3 revealed he was mewtwo, at which point Brocket dropped his FoS on D3. - - - - Other FoS DCLXVI, if Brocket turns up red, then DCLXVI = town. - - - - - This is just a bit of analysis I did post death, if anyone wants to know how I got to these conclusions I will post what posts these reactions come from. Because if you get killed then it was obviously me. /rollseyes. Sure you can go ahead and vote me if it makes you feel better. Apparently I've been making zero sense whatsoever. Apparently it's logical to conclude if I'm read then DC is town. 100% guaranteed right? Shockey turning up red doesn't invalidate ANY of my points. I just didn't prioritise him as highly. By that logic if I turn up green that makes Gabe and DCI red? Then fucking do it bro, lynch me. Sounds like a good trade if you believe it's true. Even better, I will agree with the gabetard and ask d3/the real mewtwo to please stand up and flip me. Be a man and do it. | ||
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Brocket
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On December 19 2010 01:43 LSB wrote: There goes my theory about tube... x.x The key issue is that the mafia was actively trying to redirect the lynch off of Shockeyy. There are three ways they could do this 1) Stay low and just vote for themselves (what Oceanic did) 2) Place their votes on D3 and hope to get him lynched (This is incredibly dumb) 3) Attempt to redirect the lynch to DCXLIV Now. How would we know if the lynch was attempted to be redirected to DCXLIV? The key point is how the DCXLIV pushers dealt with the Shockeyy issue. Mafia would just completely ignore Shockeyy to try to not tie themselves with them, or downplay the issue. (See how Pandain tried to downplay Coagulation and focus on Glasse in don't loose your village) Now lets apply this to see if it fits Brocket. Firstly, his main argument against lynching shockey Day 2 was that there "was not enough information". This is clearly false, I had done the full analysis. Comprehensive post analysis, and also previous game analysis. In addition, Brocket does not offer a reason why the shockeyy lynch was premature, he just assumed it. + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2010 06:06 Brocket wrote: I think shockeyy and amber haven't posted enough to earn a position to be voted. The shockeyy bandwagon does not amuse me and I am disappoint in LSB. In tree hugger fashion: Gabriel or zeks are good votes and are the only votes that should matter because those two have been discussed 'extensively'. If you want shockey out, wait till day 3 voting please, you're not helping the town cause. Way too soon and way too shallow of an argument. I am not satisfied with amber or d3's (lol) arguments. LSB, shockey is implying amber and d3 appear to be working together.Which I agree with. But I'm saving that for the next day assuming I don't die night 2. Btw please look more on amber+d3 if I die night 2. On December 15 2010 06:12 Brocket wrote: "As for Voting Gabriel. I found it very strange that Jcarlson and Meapak died. On the other hand, this could be a great way to make Gabriel seem even more suspicious." This kind of evens out you going on shockey bandwagon LSB. This is a great point and I say I didn't even think of it. But I'm assuming TR are too stupid to even think of something like this. Nonetheless this discredits the Gabe vote. I'm sticking to my guns though. As I just said gabe/zeks are both good votes. Voting shockeyy now in the final hours of day 2 voting is a huge mistake, we simply haven't discussed enough about him yet. It's just a mixture of spontaneous and bandwagon which are key ingredients for suspicious activity and failure. Now, the most important post I discovered is this @LSB Planned medic claim much? Brocket's key defense of Shockeyy was that he could be medic. No one says could be medic. People say possible blue. There was no way Brocket would know that Shockeyy would be claiming medic, unless he planned it with Shockeyy beforehand. All this analysis must be doing your head in bro. He claimed medic before I posted that. Just. Fucking. Check it. You didn't do a analysis on shockeyy when I said it was too early. Amber and d3 were on shockeyy and you just agreed, and then I posted that. Zero analysis on your part. Look it up. Look at the god damn time stamp on my god damn post you god damn mook. What the hell is the point of analysing when you are so shit at it? Damn man, none of anything you just said in this quote made sense if you just look at YOUR posts before MY posts. Anyway, I told you. I'm not a smurf. This is my first game on TL Mafia. If I sound like I'm charming and persuasive that's just sheer personality shining through. I don't have any hidden information. I don't know what the fuck you're seeing in my posts when clearly they're in response to posts I actually read. | ||
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