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Some of us (me) carry friendly grudges (my first mafia game) ^^ | ||
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By Inactive, I mean someone who is lurking, maybe making one token post in the thread that isn't anything new and doesn't attempt to contribute anything at all, but still votes every day. These are the uninterested townies, the lurkers, and the people studying for finals. | ||
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On December 10 2010 11:22 Infundibulum wrote: Oh i see, we were kinda using different contextual definitions. Yeah by inactive i was thinking of the people that just never show up, not the 1 post 1 vote lurkers. In my experience most modkills happen during Day 1 or Day 2, a period during which it is difficult to distinguish true inactives from lurkers since they both exhibit similar behavior (i.e. very little). Lynching an 'inactive' Day 1 is always a nice neutral ground, but I feel that many people offer it as an excuse since they don't know what else to do (the same reason RNG always comes up, which is IMO worse than lynching inactives). I think of discussing lynching inactives as a jumping point for town discussion. Most people complain that nothing happens day 1, and I want the thread to be filled with activity. Activity is needed to find scum. Speaking of inactivity, everyone should say something! On December 10 2010 11:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: I don't know if the inactive plan is really going to be good. This is why I figured the DT's should be smart enough to make their own decisions and post only when they come across something ground breaking. Its up to the DTs to decide. But the key point of this plan is that it flushes out the mafia. If we get general town agreement, even if the dts don't actually check the inactives, the mafia will be pressured to be more active. | ||
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On December 10 2010 12:35 Infundibulum wrote: by the way new players should read this link: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=JEEP's_Tells_for_Finding_the_Cop i would ignore the numbers part. there are some interesting articles on the mafia scum wiki, but do not take them as gospel. i gather that the playstyle over there is somewhat different. Wrong link, this is for finding the Cop. Something the mafia want's to do. This is the right link http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=JEEP's_Tells_for_Finding_Mafia Now I ask you, why are you looking at that hmmm?  | ||
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In the meanwhile. What do you think about lynching inactives dinmsab? | ||
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On December 10 2010 10:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: and BrownBear in salem! i started that wagon ;o That didn't count, as far as I know it was Ghrur who switched the vote for you guys! If Kenpachi was scum on the other hand... Gabriel. The key thing we have to look at Gabriel is why he decided to Accuse Kenpachi. Is this because he is honestly trying to scumhunt, or is he pressured and wants to redirect the lynch On December 10 2010 11:12 Gabriel wrote: I rather check the active player and lynch the inactive player. The active player right now is more likely to be +info in the future anyways, while the inactive is just... well... inactive. By the way one of the worst game aproachs is the "im noob just reading and getting used to play". If you are town you rather post something small but with actual meaning. I still have a decent target day 1 unless he posts a few more than oneliners. Inactives is also my treasure box. I have a half decent target in the "im new guys" list. However right now i really want to flip Infundibulum because A) He came out of nowhere to dismiss lynching inactives (and that is really nonsense for a player that has played a lot of games) B) I cant believe jcarsoniv just posted a single Why? to LSB vote. The Kenpachi push looks like he is seeing someone that is lurking and wants to figure out what he is. The key point that points me is that he wants to DT check, not lynch Kenpachi (Whoops I gtg brb) | ||
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He pointed out that Kenpachi's posts were spammy and didn't contribute to the town at all. The problem is now, why the bandwagon the bandwagon against Gabriel took place. (i'll look into it later, right now I'm hard pressed for time) | ||
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On December 11 2010 04:33 Infundibulum wrote: I disagree with this, especially considering the wide range of time zones people are in on TL. I'm taking about not contributing to the town. Making fluff posts. Of course, I don't have an opinion on Kenpanchi, he doesn't act differently much. I'm just trying to see why Gabriel would do this. | ||
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Take a look at my posts with Jcarlsoniv. They are not spam, they serve a specific purpose. If you want me to explain, sure... but it's quiet obvious Secondly, you are taking all of the posts out of context. Most of them are responses to other people. | ||
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On December 11 2010 13:42 Insanious wrote: Do we lynch Kenpachi for his posting habbits, Gab for his out burst, Infun for his previous actions, LSB for trying to be the head of the town, or you for just angrily, randomly, accusing people of being scum. The infun lynch is a joke btw. I'll switch my vote to kenpachi for now. See Tree-Hugger's post for reasoning. On December 11 2010 13:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: While I still feel like it's to early for full blown analysis posts simply because there hasn't been much to analyze yet I must say that Kav's post actually brings up some good points on LSB. I'd like to hear more in depth from LSB about who he thinks we should lynch because after reading Kav's post I'm actually rather confused as to what LSB want's to do. I think the gabriel lynch is junk. I've already stated my reasons why I believe it is so. I'll address who to lynch in a later post kk? On December 11 2010 14:39 tube wrote: Look at his defense against Kav's [long] list of suspicions. He tries to answer for all of his posts by merely responding that they were all taken out of context. Nor does he even say what "specific purpose" any of those posts had. If those purposes were to answer questions, they had more of an effect of making him look like hes trying hard to come off as town. Though apparently we should see his purposes as "quiet obvious" to the point where he does not have to explain them. (or can't?) Do you seriously want me to go through and explain to you every post? Pick a post. I'll explain it to you. | ||
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Gabriel If your going to accuse someone, please go through their posting history first. See how they played other games On December 11 2010 22:48 Brocket wrote: If you guys are gunning for kenpachi, then what about jcarlsoniv? It seems like they're a couple. I was very suspicious on Jcarlsoniv, but I went through his games and he's playing pretty consistent. | ||
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People who haven't posted yet. (To Be Modkilled) + Show Spoiler + 2. BrownBear 6. DarthThienAn 7. StormTemplar 12. ghrur Gabriel Lynch (I apologize if you are not included on this Supports + Show Spoiler + Kenpachi: OMGYS jcarlsoniv Meapak_Ziphh: Sheepish Brocket: Sheep. Switched to being against the lynch Eiii dinmsab Opposes + Show Spoiler + Gabriel Insanious LSB Amber[LighT] Oceanic seRapH Infundibulum KtheZ tree.hugger Absent+ Show Spoiler + 1. deconduo 4. GGQ 6. DarthThienAn 7. Stormtemplar 9. dinmsab 11. DCLXVI 12. Ghrur 14. Node 15. KtheZ 16. tube 17. chaoser 22. Shockeyy 23. seRapH 24. Kavdragon 27. Hesmyrr 29. kitaman27 30. d3_crescentia 31. zeks I'm supporting the Kenpachi lynch because I don't like how quickly Jcarlsoniv turned it into a bandwagon. | ||
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On December 12 2010 00:16 deconduo wrote: There seems to be a case against zeks, gonna read over some of his posts now. Kenpachi has looked scummy in EVERY single game he plays. Seriously, he's impossible to read. Zeks pretty scummy from what I remember in other games. Then again he was SK. I've voting for Kenpachi because I don't like how immediately he got strong support from Jcarlsoniv, and how lots of people ignored what Gabriel was talking about, and immediatly jumped the bandwagon. | ||
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The thing is, any other votes is simply you wussing out. And the more people that wuss out, the easier it is for the mafia to hide and not vote for anyone. And don't get modkilled. Unless your mafia. Then you can get modkilled. | ||
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I know your here, you just posted a nice blog. But you managed to not post here and quickly vote for yourself and leave. | ||
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This may be WIFORM. But I don't believe that the Mafia would support the Gabriel lynch when Kenpachi works so well. Mafia day one would want to defend a Townie, but get the Townie lynched, so they look better. Kenpachi would fit that role. All the Mafia would have to do is subtly defend him, but allow him to become lynched. I'm not saying that everyone who defended Kenpachi is mafia. I'm saying its pretty likely that the people attacking Gabriel were mostly green | ||
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On December 13 2010 04:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I bet 100 esports dollars that in Kenpachi's first game as mafia no one will lynch him. No Bet Already happened (Deconduo's game) On December 13 2010 05:43 Gabriel wrote: Previous data from players is useless. Half decent players are able to get away with different playstyles. Im sure TL veterans dont look previous games unless there is a contradictory post from the accused in the active game (refered to the old game). Previous data is increadbily important to attempt to figure out differences in play. GGQ is inactive this game, and I've vertifying if he actually could play the newbie card. From the few pages I browsed, GGQ is a pretty active player. This is considerable different from what is happening in this thread. On December 13 2010 05:56 Node wrote: I wouldn't say that. It might have saved Kenpachi's life had more people taken it into consideration. There are very few players able to completely posting style on a dime, and most of those that can (*cough* ace *cough*) are already known for it. AFAIK Zeks is also increadibly scummy in the other games he plays. | ||
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On December 13 2010 05:33 DarthThienAn wrote: Eiii [...] Complete turnaround... starts the game off saying how he thinks Kenpachi is a bad poster. Then he changes his mind because Kenpachi continues posting poorly? Not to mention he's the last vote. Interesting point. It could be attributed with frustration, or to try to take off pressure from Zeks. On the other hand, lots of people were voting kenpachi, so maybe he went with the flow. I don't agree with your analysis of Brocket though. On December 13 2010 01:10 Brocket wrote: Zeks and kenpachi, but kenpachi and jcarl seemed to back eachother up and focus attention on gabriel. In fact I thought if kenpachi turned out to be mafia, then jcarl would also be mafia so it was a sort of 2 for 1. People did put good arguments for zeks but because I didn't notice him much I didn't think about him, which I suppose makes the arguments against him stronger. Feel free to look at what I've said. I've mostly just been looking at what people have been saying and then briefly looked at 'analyses' of what people said if you want to save yourself some time. This was what I thought too (If unspoken). Brocket, since you've been looking at what people have been saying, do you see anything strange? | ||
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On December 13 2010 06:28 Gabriel wrote: What? im not good at English but you just wrote: What other games have I been scum in? Anyone else remember this? On August 03 2010 21:50 zeks wrote: i'm gonna keep joining mafia games until i get a scum role Zeks hasn't joined Team Mafia yet! (Most illigit lynch ever, but hey... could be slipup) By Scummy I mean that you sound like scum, even though you may be town The games I've played with you RAM: Zeks was inactive, non-comittal Harry Potter Mafia: Zeks has done nothing to contribute to the town and only talks about his own mayoral campagain. PYP2  retty scummy from what I rememberTL Mafia XXX: I dunno, I died quiet early. Glares at Infun | ||
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