EPTTL Mafia XXXIV: Pokemafia - Page 2
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Kavdragon
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DrH, could you please update the following and replace the Role list? (There are a few counts will need to be updated after the identity of the mod kills has been revealed.) + Show Spoiler + Signup List: 1. deconduo 2. BrownBear 3. Eiii 4. GGQ 5. LSB 6. 7. 8. 9. dinmsab 10. 11. DCLXVI 12. 13. 14. Node 15. KtheZ 16. 17. chaoser 18. Oceanic 19. Gabriel 20. Insanious 21. 22. 23. seRapH 24. Kavdragon 25. 26. Infundibulum 27. 28. Brocket 29. kitaman27 30. d3_crescentia 31. Replacement Queue: RebirthOfLeGenD Barundar 21 of 31 players remaining x of x Pikachus remaining x of x Raichus remaining x of x Chanseys remaining (x-1) of x Alakazams remaining (x-1) of x Cloysters remaining (x-1) of x Electrodes remaining 0 of 1 Mews remaining 16 of 24 Pokealliance players remaining. x of x Gengars remaining (x-1) of x Koffing remaining x of x Weezing remaining Team Rocket KP = 3 (TR/2 rounded up) 5 of 6 Team Rocket players remaining. 1 of 1 Mewtwo remaining. | ||
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Kavdragon
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On December 18 2010 13:39 Gabriel wrote: Can we please get an updated second post DH?? please?? and where are the modks? Lol. Guess I should learn to post faster. | ||
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Kavdragon
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I am generally against people calling for medics. However, in this case, if the town has no active players, we will not win. Medics, make your choices wisely. LSB: You expect Mafia to RB you? Why? If there is a chance that you will die, we need to know what information you have. If it means posting it right before the end of the night, then so be it, but please, don't die with information that can benefit the town. | ||
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Kavdragon
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1) Regarding my vote on D3. I didn't see that he had claimed M2 till it was too late. If I had, I would have voted ShoCkeyy. (Yeah yeah, I know, Easy to say that now that he's red, but w/e. What's done is done.) 2) Regarding D3: I would love to get M2's help. This is exactly what the town needs now. However, Your analysis of the possibilities is flawed, And I'm wondering if it was purposeful. The pictures show mafia KP at 2, when there are 5 left. Mafia KP is rounded up. They have three kills tonight. This changes the outcome of several branches that would otherwise have been town victories. 3) I agree with LSB on hitting Brocket. I havn't and won't have enough time to build my own argument, but I agree with his analysis. Again, sorry for not being that active when it's needed, I'll contribute as often as i can. | ||
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Kavdragon
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On December 19 2010 06:43 d3_crescentia wrote: Could you point out the exact situation? They are labeled that way for a reason. Sorry, The first picture. The second choice off the main bubble: "L: 1M/1T 11/5, N[K]: 2T 9/5" I saw a few others as well. In any case, the situation has changed with the mod kills. I'm working on my own bubble chart of events as well, tho it may take me some time. | ||
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Kavdragon
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![[image loading]](http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5751/mafiaendgame.jpg) This means that we cannot lynch M2. (For at least two nights, anyways) On December 20 2010 05:40 BrownBear wrote: ##Vote: DCLXVI ##Vote: d3_crescentia ##Vote: Double Lynch You appear to have slipped sir. Vote Brownbear. I waited to post this to see if anyone would vote D3, Brownbear didn't disappoint. Also, this may or may not make DCLXVI less suspicious. You decide. | ||
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Kavdragon
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On December 20 2010 08:12 BrownBear wrote: I disagree with you, but then, I'm biased against town alliances w/ 3rd parties. They never work out well for anyone. Personally, my view is that if we know who MewTwo is, we should lynch him. End of story. You dissagree with what? Look at the possible outcomes. Now compare that with these outcomes, assuming that we lynch D3: ![[image loading]](http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1719/mafiaendgame2.jpg) Brownbear's "Don't work with third parties" policy is handing his mafia a win. I would agree that normally third parties shouldn't be allied with, but we kinda screwed up earlier in the game, and we are in a tight spot now. We have to work with D3, or we lower our chances of survival by a good deal. Lynch Redbear. | ||
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On December 20 2010 08:29 BrownBear wrote: Mewtwo has failed to net us a single TR kill so far. I highly doubt that he will. Lets say we lynch a TR and Mewtwo today. That will put us, after night kills, at 7 to 4. No. After night kills we will be at 6 to 4. Now, let's say we lynch 2 TRs today, That's 2 kills from them, then a kill from Mewtwo which will put us at either 7 to 3 or 6 to 3. However, that's relying on Mewtwo to actually hit a TR - something I highly doubt will happen. Again, no. If we lynch two TR today, then it's 8/3/1. After night kills it's 6/2/1 or 5/3/1. Or how about 1 TR, 1 Town. We have 8 town to 4 TR and mewtwo left, that's 4 nightkills, unless we get HUGELY lucky, we could be put in a 4-4 situation where we'd be absolutely fucked. I think you are under the assumption that there are 9 town. There are 8. In the case of lynching 1TR and 1 Town, we wold be looking at 7 to 4. After night kills, 5 to 4 or 6 to 3. That situation would depend on D3's ability to snipe a mafia. We're basically in LYLO at this point, we need to kill off the anti-town players we know. And we know d3 is anti-town. D3 is working with us for now. I agree that he needs to go eventually, but if we assume him to be hostile, then we can assume that we've lost as well. | ||
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Night: Mafia will likely hit three people, and D3 will hit one. (Gabe has claimed Vet, so I doubt he will be hit, and DC has claimed MH, so he'll probably be left alone also. Of course, this could be a clever way to explain their survival) If D3 is right about Infun being mafia, then we are looking at a 3/4/1 game. If every town member and D3 can agree and vote to lynch two (actual) mafia, then they will have 4 votes on two people. The mafia can counter this by voting D3 and someone else. This will end up in a tie. How would a 4-way tie be dicided? If nothing, then mafia kills two people, and D3 kills another mafia. This leaves 1/3/1. Mafia wins all votes. D3 will die, and then the mafia has majority. If there is a split and D3 gets a good night kill, then it's 1/2/1. Same deal, except that if there is another tie, then D3 wins. All of this assumes that the town players can all agree on JUST two people. Also, this totally depends on how ties are handled... So, How are ties handled? | ||
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Kavdragon
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Could LSB really be Scum? It seems unlikely, but given how well mafia seem to have played so far, and given this slip-up in light of a huge blow to the town, I'm seriously reconsidering him. | ||
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Kavdragon
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But honestly? The people most interested in the game are going to be mafia at this point. GG Mafia. Well played, I guess. | ||
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On December 21 2010 16:03 LSB wrote: I swear this cycle was suppose to end at 10:00, I even camped the thread with multiple different vote switches, expecting you to make a move. DCLXIV doesn't have any bombs, cause he's red so I'm cool with killing him too. Lol, Common misconception this game: The cycle ends at 12:00. NOT 10:00. I can picture you now, frantically hitting F5 on the voting thread. But not because you were looking for last minute vote changes. But because you were waiting to see if you could get away with your double townie lynch. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster. | ||
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Kavdragon
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On December 21 2010 16:06 d3_crescentia wrote: Don't forget M2. If I finagle it just right I can still win. -_- Ok, barring Modkills, here's what i see happening. 5/5/1 (now) 2/4/1 (Tonight, assuming that you hit a mafia) Mafia all vote D3, and a townie. Town and you vote for two mafia. Final tally, Mafia can vote you off, and another townie. We CAN"T win. Gabe secured that. Mafia win, 1/4. So. DrH, if you wouldn't mind letting us know the outcome of any mod killing? | ||
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On December 21 2010 16:18 d3_crescentia wrote: Why won't you love me? WHY WON'T YOU LOVE ME? I will love you. But only as long as you kill who i ask you to. It's conditional love. Kill Gabe. Again. | ||
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Mafia will likely hit Node, KtheZ, and Oceanic or something. The blues have all revealed the roles, (Dumb idea btw) so the mafia won't hit any vets, or MH's tonight. Even with gabe, it would still be 3-4-1, something that the mafia still win. I suppose i could have contributed more towards the end, but it's almost Christmas, and the holidays called my attention elsewhere. Bad time to be town I guess. I'll have to re-think my analysis of people, cause I feel more or less responsible for BB's lynch. Sorry GreenBear. | ||
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