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Also when zeks said he'd keep joining mafia games until he became mafia himself, and thus the reason why he joined the harry potter mafia after this one... He's implying he's not mafia this game? Which makes it an easy decision of whether you believe him or not. It's a little silly and immature but I suppose everybody does want to be mafia secretly so I'm inclined to believe him.
Zeks so far hasn't appeared to be particularly dishonest but as soon as we find reason to distrust him then he probably is mafia this game.
I have an opinion about someone: Gabriel.
Gabriel says that he's voting pre emptively because he may be inactive for a time, but honestly he hasn't been that helpful compared to others. I know I'm not that helpful either but from what I've been reading, I'm more suss of people who vote quickly as opposed to people who post here first to explain why.
He also changed his vote to zeks which would make sense as mafia since they'd know zeks is a townie and that kenpachi was getting voted out anyway who was also a townie. Personally I believe this to be a slip up because kenpachi was actively going after Gabriel, why would Gabriel not vote Kenpachi then since FoS was focused squarely on kenpachi. I know this doesn't sound clear at all, I wish i could make a flowchart.
1. Gabriel (as mafia):
1a). Vote kenpachi: Bad idea since it gives further support that you are mafia and adds substance to kenpachi's claims against you. Don't vote him and look for some else to vote without taking any heat. Besides, Tree hugger made good claims against him and has convinced a significant number of people, he's quite likely to leave even if you don't vote for him.
1b) Vote Zeks: Blame this one, he has acted suss and has shown that he can't defend himself properly. Keep aggressively FoSing him. Either he or Kenpachi goes, but now you have a safe vote that won't make you look suss since you were the one who began making arguments against zeks.
2. Gabriel (as Townie)
2a) Vote Kenpachi: don't do this as it reiterates the same reasons as 1a), it will only make you look like a villain getting rid of someone who is accusing you.
2b) Vote Zeks: He does look suss if you take his 2-3 posts. But uh. er. Kind of random. Sure a few people agreed but only because Tree hugger and a few others said voting kenpachi/zeks was a 'fine choice'.
My final point is that we know jcarl was killed. Kenpachi and jcarl were both in on Gabriel and now they're gone. Can you hear me audibly masticate on my thoughts?
Segue: Honestly, can someone please tell me how many of each role is present in this game. I only know that there are 6 mafia members, that's what KPT stands for right? 6/2 = 3.
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On December 13 2010 18:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
As I watched that I had these different snarky comments I was going to make but when I got to the end all I could think was "that was downright epic."
Then meapak_Ziphh spontaneous explodes.
Lol.
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Oh also to add to my point 2a). If I was a townie accused as mafia by some person, eg kenpachi. Even it makes me look more suss, I'd still vote kenpachi if I truly thought he was a mafia to make sure he was removed, especially when it was close between kenpachi and zeks.
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@ DarthThienAn
Dodge more? Please read again. I addressed you directly.
Okthxbye lolol I'm darth "huge e-peen" thienan.
Please, please vote for me if you believe my posts are evidence against me. I still think you're an idiot since you have so much trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Is anybody else having difficulty understanding me?
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Ok thanks kit. It'd be interesting to know if we had a 2nd electrode. I'm guessing balance reasons there'd only be 1 chancey and maybe 2 alakazams. But that's just speculation, which is like what 100% of forum mafia games are anyway lol.
I wanted to bring this up again:
My final point is that we know jcarl was killed. Kenpachi and jcarl were both in on Gabriel and now they're gone. Can you hear me audibly masticate on my thoughts?'
What do you guys think?
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Guys Gab voted on Hesmyrr who mafia already know is town (assuming Hesmyrr is telling the truth).
Kenpachi and Jcarl were on the right track, Ima vote for Gabriel for day 2.Darth you can vote for me, whatever.
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On December 14 2010 14:39 Gabriel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 13:22 Brocket wrote:
Guys Gab voted on Hesmyrr who mafia already know is town (assuming Hesmyrr is telling the truth).
Kenpachi and Jcarl were on the right track, Ima vote for Gabriel for day 2.Darth you can vote for me, whatever. - Really? How do you know Hesmyrr is town? - Did you actually read my vote and the timestamp? - How old are you? (im not kidding this is important for me). - I mean look at the underlined statement.
I read your vote, you said you'd be away for possibly 30 hours so it served as a placeholder.
Just read the thread bro, I'm inclined to believe Hesmyrr is town.
I'm 22. A/s/l Gabe?
Way to be defensive Gabe. Maybe you should stop asking what my age is and try change my mind.
I've already stated my reasons why I'm voting against you, deal with it. And I mean literally deal with it.
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On December 14 2010 14:52 Infundibulum wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 10:05 Node wrote:On December 14 2010 09:41 Hesmyrr wrote:
Hey guys, so I don't know what's going on, but a voltorb that was on me apparently exploded at 12/13/10 15:05 (because mod fails). Fortunately my unwitting wit and shell has saved me, but no longer I boast that powerful shell that guaranteed my survival.
So...
I am Cloyster, voltorb exploded on me and my extra night live was removed because tree.hugger is FAILURE That's an interesting claim. I'm inclined to believe it -- Hesmyrr has been fairly active, has been stating clear positions on who should be lynched, and in general seems like a town-aligned player willing to put himself out there to risk hits (veteran-style play). In fact, after re-reading his posts I'm not entirely sure where the suspicions of Hesmyrr being scum have come from, and I'll be taking a closer look at those who were putting a lot of pressure on him. I think he's telling the truth, but i dunno why Hesmyrr had to tell us his role. I mean all that does is give the mafia extra information - they know now that 1 vet is down a life and whoever replaces Hesmyrr can be hit and killed (barring medic of course). All he had to say was "I took the bomb hit," and it tells us what we need to know. I'm really puzzled by the roleclaim part of it.
I agree that he revealed more than he had to but since nobody has bothered to state they took the hit it's better than nothing. And besides that mafia already hit him once and they know they hit the blue vet, they're better off killing off others now that they've ruled out 1 electrode and 1 cloyster, don't you agree? In Hesmyrr's interests, it's likely that he'll stay in the game now that mafia has lost interest in him (why kill a dude twice, he's just a normal pikachu now) and also there's no reason for town to lynch him. Mafia's would be happy lynching him I suppose to conserve KPT.
People putting pressure on Hesmyrr: Gabe primarily, and others have somehow agreed with him. I honestly don't think Hesmyrr has earned suspicion.
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I have a beef with 2 people at the moment.
Gabriel:
You're voting zeks. Your original reason was because he acted relatively inactive so is suspicious. That was your strongest argument. It's now void. Good luck getting people to agree with you now.
You originally voted for Hesmyrr. You have only recently read the thread with the sufficient degree of comprehension to make the reasonable assumption that he is a townie. Congratulations, but your first vote on Hesmyrr now looks random and out of place and even winding back to when you posted that vote, it still didn't make sense.
You have not changed at all since the start of the day 1 and frankly your shaky arguments and even worse counter arguments do not sit well with me. Let's see if you can take it 'like a man, like a warrior' again and see how much dust you can stand today.
@ Darth "Huge epeen" ThienAn.
You have had sufficient time to contemplate my posts. You've scrutinised my posts on two seperate occasions. I can tell you and everybody a simple fact . If you keep aggressively focusing on one person then that's all that your posts become. Which means it is easy to not give away anything about yourself. So you are at an easy position picking apart everything I say. Despite your huge e-peen, you still have not voted against me. Since you haven't backed up your words with action, you are not as big as you think, friend Darth-Thien-An.
I've already told me that what I post is as clear as I can make it. Nobody apart from yourself and Gabe have failed to understand me.
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Edit without double post. I've already told everybody and I told me Like a baws.
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Eii, Gabriel never had a strong pull on the town. He capitalised on tree hugger's encouragement to vote zeks/kenpachi (and tree hugger himself voted kenpachi). Without tree, Gabriel's arguments seemed flimsy and hard to follow. I actually want to look back on who said Gabriel made some good points. Who would say that, really?
If you think Gabriel has the persuasive pull on us townies, you'd better hope he can pick out scum. But seeing as he's just revenge-voting zeks he's hardly worth listening to.
Don't get me wrong, if you have a good, logical point then I will praise you for it and that goes for everyone who contributes. But so far only tree hugger had made a truly positive impression on me, so much so that I changed my vote from gabe to kenpachi on day 1. It's going to take the same amount of intelligent posting to get me to change my gabe vote to someone else.
It's an open invitation gabe, sell me something.
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I'm not on zeks side either by the way. I'll get to him later. I agree that zeks bandwagoning to vote on infund was suss given infund didn't do anything to warrant any votes. All Gabe is making zeks do is retaliate to your posts which isn't giving me anything to work with because Gabe is so easy to criticise.
The only other thing that was off about zeks was when he said he was joining games until he was mafia, and after this game he joined harry potter mafia. That's literally all that I know about zeks.
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I guess if a detective (alakazam or mew) wants to check me out that could be productive. I'll show up as either a true townie or a gengar pretending to be one. Chansey's honestly should just use their prevention on whoever they want to keep in and if they decide that they themselves are the most valuable then so be it. Give gabe/zeks a scan too if they survive the day vote and future night attacks.
I could be a blue. Or a townie pretending to be a blue. Would it matter too much to the town if I was killed off by mafia? I sort of think of it as taking one for the team so the blues can get a night off.
I could be mafia. I think I'd like to be just a koffing. I wouldn't know who to sleep as a weezing. I talk a lot as you can see but I try to be productive without any hard evidence (then again who does?).
As far as mewtwo is concerned, he's just a wild card that confuses the night attacks and he's more likely to kill townies than mafia the first few nights until our numbers sufficiently dwindle. Sad but true.
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Also Shockey day 2 is like Gabriel day 1 except his posts are readable. And kenpachi+jcarl was looking pretty suss but they turned out okay. I don't know what to say about the amber + d3 suddenly turning on shockey but I don't like it. I don't even know why d3 is voting shockey, shockey was only elaborating on d3's point that there are a number of inactives.
I'm more suss of amber and d3 then I am of shockey. Does anybody else think shockey is scummy?
Also I feel like I'm being an elephant in a crowded room. I'll try post less so people can talk more freely. I won't bite unless you're darththienan (yeh, don't screw with me).
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@d3:
dinmsab wanted people to talk about blue's roles. I just offered my opinion. It's obviously not helpful so it kind of illustrates how dumb it is to talk about what blues should do when blues already should know what they're doing as opposed to discussing "bs accusations".
Speaking of confusing and being generally unproductive, d3 please explain why you're voting shockey. Pretty please?
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You thinking I'm holding back on you? Clearly you haven't been reading my rants and post-without-thinking contributions.
You want information? I'm a pikachu. There I said it. I'm ashamed of it and insecure so I cover it up with my big posts and feigned intelligent banter. I'm going curl up and cry now and wish raichu will hold me tightly and tell me everything's okay in his rough bad boy yet brotherly comforting voice.
Think I'm holding back? Yeh right.
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On December 15 2010 05:44 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2010 10:51 GGQ wrote:On December 12 2010 12:38 zeks wrote:
I think I'm dead ?
Oceanic
meapak
Hesmyrr
infundibulum
Please take a good look at these people especially infun. Votes came off him way too easily and the people who voted for him got mobbed immediately for the dumbest reasons.
Cheers and at least u didnt get a blue On December 12 2010 12:43 zeks wrote:after the FoS on me no one even bothered to post once to defend me  These posts are obviously intended to be seen as the point of view of a green who believes he's been lynched and is giving his last words. However, when I made my vote (which turned out to be the last one), the most recent votecount (which has since been edited to show the final votecount...) showed Kenpachi leading over zeks by two votes, and after that votecount there were three votes for Kenpachi and four for zeks. My vote was 40 minutes before zeks' "I'm dead" post, which gives him plenty of time to count the votes and add some small numbers together and see that Kenpachi was getting lynched, not him. (There is the fact that KtheZ voted zeks twice because he forgot to 'unvote' the first time, but even then the vote would be a tie and Kenpachi would still have been lynched). I have a hard time believing that zeks could miscount the votes so badly with his life on the line. I think these posts really force us to polarize our view on zeks. You either believe that he's an innocent pikachu who fails at simple math, or that he's confirmed TR because no town role would fake those posts. I strongly feel that he's scum. Bringing this up again because people keep saying things like "we don't know for sure about zeks" or "he's suspicious so we'll keep an eye on him" etc. That doesn't make any sense. Anyone who isn't voting zeks today is saying that they think he's a pikachu who can't add small numbers together when his game life is in the balance. It seems far more likely to me that he's a TR who went for a gambit to appear innocent because he knew Kenpachi would flip green and he was next on the list. He was the best lynch yesterday and he's the best lynch today. Voting zeks.
Out from left field. I didn't see GGQ coming. I agree zeks would have been voted out day 1 because of kenpachi. Honestly if Gabriel wasn't here I'd vote him too. But I've already said kenpachi and jcarl lynched and dead as townies and gabriel's strong motive to FoS zeks to survive confound the zeks-is-scum argument. I want to see gabriel's identity, since he's failed to convince me from day 1 and the only recourse is by lynch.
I am set on voting gabriel because I think he's mafia. I appreciate the people so far who voted with me for day 2 because that means they've read my posts and thought 'hey that Brocket dude is pretty handsome and makes a lot of sense'.
If for some outlandish reason I am delirious and Gabe turns out to be townie, I invite suspicion upon myself and throw myself onto the sword. I will vote myself day 3 because I would know that nothing I said was productive at all and I would feel guilty that I got Gabe the 'helpful' townie lynched. But until that happens, it's vote 1 gabe. Vote him dead.
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I think shockeyy and amber haven't posted enough to earn a position to be voted. The shockeyy bandwagon does not amuse me and I am disappoint in LSB. In tree hugger fashion: Gabriel or zeks are good votes and are the only votes that should matter because those two have been discussed 'extensively'.
If you want shockey out, wait till day 3 voting please, you're not helping the town cause. Way too soon and way too shallow of an argument. I am not satisfied with amber or d3's (lol) arguments.
LSB, shockey is implying amber and d3 appear to be working together.Which I agree with. But I'm saving that for the next day assuming I don't die night 2. Btw please look more on amber+d3 if I die night 2.
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"As for Voting Gabriel. I found it very strange that Jcarlson and Meapak died. On the other hand, this could be a great way to make Gabriel seem even more suspicious."
This kind of evens out you going on shockey bandwagon LSB. This is a great point and I say I didn't even think of it. But I'm assuming TR are too stupid to even think of something like this. Nonetheless this discredits the Gabe vote. I'm sticking to my guns though. As I just said gabe/zeks are both good votes.
Voting shockeyy now in the final hours of day 2 voting is a huge mistake, we simply haven't discussed enough about him yet. It's just a mixture of spontaneous and bandwagon which are key ingredients for suspicious activity and failure.
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@ shockey:
You're not doing yourself a favour voting amber. We can pursue that discussion at a later date. Vote zeks or Gabe.
@ people voting shockey:
I suggest you rethink your votes, Kav is right. In the town's interests, we do not need a 3rd bandwagon.
Right now, I'm directly addressing LSB, amber and d3. Nobody else is buying it.
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