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On December 04 2010 00:52 deconduo wrote: Fishball should say who the person is, so coag can verify. Fishball could easily be faking. Very risky, remeber, they probably checked a doctor. And fishball is very certantly not lieing I'd rather it go, Fishball reveals the role. Coag Decides whether or not to flip who it is. | ||
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You seem like the person who caught someone speeding. | ||
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Firstly, I'll claim that I can see all the night actions, I don't know who did them, but Doc H Pmed them to me. I took out some actions because I don't feel they were important to anyone besides the mafia. Someone whispered a message into someone elses ears Someone watched somebody else with a pair of binoculars. Someone pointed a radar gun at somebodies house. Someone shot somebody to death, but they survived and came back as an undead zombie. This is the roles I've pulled up + Show Spoiler + Someone has a spirit inside them waiting to come out. (1) Jcarlsoniv. Or Fishball Somebody fell in love. Somebody has been born anew with the power of love. (2, maybe 3) Lovers. One town one mafia A child is playing in the yard. (4) Innocent Child, Child with Binoculars? A man with a black hood stands in an alley. The man in the black hood found his axe. (5) Executioner. Deconduo? Someone just got a pharmacology degree from Liquidia University. Another student got his Pharmocology degree. (6,7) I was able to see these actions Pharmacists/Nerfed Medics A man begs in the street. (8) Hobo Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies (9,10) SouthRawrea and someone else. Possibly Mafia Hypnotist? Somewhere on a wall the words are spraypainted. "Sometimes the day is over before you think" Sometimes the hammer strikes back and it almost struck evil (11) Deconduo Someone got caught speeding in a car. (12) Someone pointed a radar gun at somebodies house. Baurdar A guy has brains on his mind but doesn't know why. (13) Someone shot somebody to death, but they survived and came back as an undead zombie. Orgolove Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia? (14) Possibly a disease carrier, a la Insane. Or maybe vote corruption A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer (15) ? Unaccounted for roles: Some Sort of Watcher with Binoculars Some Sort of Mafia Bus Driver Some Sort of Mafia vote blocker What I gleaned. Mafia: 1 KP. Three roles probably Lover, Roleblocker, Vote Corrupter. Roleclaims: It doesn't look like anyone is lying... I don't even know what Fishball claimed... Did he claim that he can survive a lynch or something? | ||
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Back to my analysis. You can ignore that question for a moment. | ||
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Mafia has been helping out Fishball -2 Vote Corruptions -1 Hit on Orgolove. This all could be WIFORM, however, in the game I played as mafia, I took out people who slightly suspected me. Fishballs Role -Fishball is not a critical town role such as Doctor or DT. -Fishball Claimed Preacher and has some sort of bonus ‘spirit’ after a lynch. -An alternative theory is that Fishball is a ‘town lover’ and is converted to mafia after the lynch. One key thing we have to note is that Fishball is trying not to get lynched. That means that possibly getting lynched will weaken his role. I’m inclined to believe that he can’t survive the lynch The Hammer On December 04 2010 06:00 Fishball wrote: The way DH worded his disappointment of wrong interpretations of the Hammer, plus the clue itself, which adds up to more than 15 players, is why I think roles that were mentioned before are mentioned again in this line: "A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer " Fishball knows something about the Hammer that we all don’t. I have two guesses on what the Hammer is. Either it is the Lynch, and Fishball gets a bonus if we lynch mafia. Or the Hammer is a person who’s role is tied to fishballs. If someone wants to confirm what Fishball is leading us on with, as per the hammer, that would be great. The hammer leands credibility to Fishball’s role as I believe he has deduced something that I did not think of and that pertains to his role. Final Verdict: Fishball is probably not lying about his role. Since I believe the mafia roles are Lover, Vote Corrupter, and Bus Driver. I’m going to say that Fishball is probably town. | ||
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On December 04 2010 06:10 kingjames01 wrote: Someone watched somebody else with a pair of binoculars., Hobo: LSB I don't got binoculars. | ||
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On December 04 2010 06:29 kingjames01 wrote: LSB, take a position. Who do you think is Red and why? I'm counting approximately 9 players contributing to this discussion. Where are the rest of the players? I'm going after the Clue from DoctorH that the Hammer almost hit mafia. When we look at the Early Day 1 voting, we see that there were two main bandwagons, each with 3 votes at one point of time (and therefore hammerable) Adani and Coagulation. Coagulation is confirmed in my eyes, so I'll say Adani then | ||
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3. ghrur 6. Aidnai 12. kingjames01 13. Node 15. Aeres Doctors, your main priority is to make sure I live =P After that, protect Coagulation or Baruder. Tracker, you should stay hidden and yell if anything important comes up. Remember, there is a bus driver, so be careful. | ||
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On December 04 2010 10:09 Fishball wrote: I have a hard time picturing this. It's like Idra being humble, well mannered and teddy bear like. Hahaha I agree On December 04 2010 10:21 Aeres wrote: What were we supposed to have done in that situation? Fishball was more of a detriment than an asset to the town, but there was no way to get rid of him barring two town deaths. Doc, you suck. This is why you don't lynch people due to 'tells'. Some people play scummyly. Not everyone plays the same. Just look at past games. | ||
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On December 04 2010 13:34 kingjames01 wrote: LSB, I thought you were the tracker? Anyway, this should be our plan for the night. LSB, arguably, has the most important role. He can tell us everything that happens at night. All we have to do is make sure he stays alive so that he can share his results with us. The more nights that he lives through, the better we can pin down the mafia. Barundar, you should check whoever you think is most suspicious. LSB has told us that there is a bus driver in the game. So don't reveal who you're going to check until the morning. Also, since you received a pill from a pharmacist last night you will be safe from a mafia hit. Coagulation, I don't know if you received a pill or not but don't reveal any information if you did. Pharmacists, LSB and Coagulation are going to need pills tonight. If you sent Coagulation a pill last night, then send one to LSB tonight. If you are the one who sent Barundar a pill last night, then send one to Coagulation or LSB. The rest of you guys, DO NOT CLAIM YOUR ROLES. Doing this puts our pharmacists at risk! If you can do so, draw hits. It's the best thing we can do for the Town. Don't protect me, my role is useless now. The PM I get isn't going to change, everyone has the same roles, same actions. Go protect the DTs (I'm not tracker) | ||
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On December 07 2010 05:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Then there is no reason the lover simply won't roleclaim and sac himself 1:1 because it's always the pro-town thing to do. If he won't do it himself, the town will force him to if they know lovers exist or at least they should. Aren't lovers only able win if the other is still alive? Sort of like third party? But basically the town lover has to help the mafia. Thats how I thought it was suppose to be, but of course, that makes it a lot harder on the lovers. | ||
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On December 07 2010 08:03 annul wrote: drh wanted to make us both win with our respective teams but individually only win if the lover was still alive (meaning, mafia win with node dead = i still lose). i pointed out to him that it is impossible for node to ever win in such a case. so it was amended. Oh, yeah, what should have happened was that node can win with mafia, and you should be able to win with town. As long as you two are the last alive of each group. | ||
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WHYYY?????? | ||
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On December 07 2010 12:02 ghrur wrote: He claimed Hypnotist/Insane DT instead of Mind Controller.  But... good point. Dude! He was the bus driver!!! That's what you get when you let the mafia 'look up' the posts for you. Always do everything by yourself =D! I was like "nooooooo!!! Why so much fail!!!!" W/e gj Kingjames! | ||
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On December 06 2010 08:32 kingjames01 wrote: Also, I am not the Insane DT. I am the Hypnotist. LSB's Hobo ability corroborated the existence of my power. What is your ability and how does it work? There you go, someone Hypnotized someone. On December 04 2010 06:10 LSB wrote: Since I believe the mafia roles are Lover, Vote Corrupter, and Bus Driver. I’m going to say that Fishball is probably town. Guess I should have made it more clear that Hypnotist = Bus Driver. | ||
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Well, I think it was more of me not wanting to release who the hypnotist targeted night one (The pharmacist). Kingjames then just slipped through that crack. | ||
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Someone sent a package of pills, but was hypnotized into sending it to somebody else. And I didn't want to confirm that the mafia was able to snipe a blue. >.< Well then again, if I revealed that, you wouldn't have roleclaimed in the first place. If only you listened when I was like "Don't hit me! I'm perfectly harmless! Let me live!!" On December 04 2010 14:31 LSB wrote: Don't protect me, my role is useless now. The PM I get isn't going to change, everyone has the same roles, same actions. Go protect the DTs (I'm not tracker) | ||
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On December 07 2010 12:21 kingjames01 wrote: haha, yeah... after I figured out that you were the Hobo we had a very long discussion about how to eliminate you. I wasn't sure if Hobo's had mailboxes and whether they could be sent death pills. Also, in some instances Hobos are immune to Night Kills since they don't have houses. Anyway, we took our chance. =) All right, next game I'm going to start by claiming vet or bulletproof. That'll do the trick! | ||
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anything that can't be logically justified in not doing and has to be artificially enforced is stupid. Like in my game that I am going to host next I want people to not be dumb and role claim to random people but I am not just going to ban it, I am introducing rules that lead to severe negative outcomes upon doing such.
