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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 15 2010 19:27 GMT
#878
At this point, the lynch target is either Kenpachi, with his support of LSB without any valid reasons, or one of the inactives. That LSB shitfest allowed a lot of lurkers to stay hidden - we need to force them to come out as well.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 16 2010 02:38 GMT
#904
Well shit... after last night's results, I'm highly suspicious of Pandain. I played 3 games with him. In two of the games, he was extremely spammy. And I mean spammy as in the top poster in the whole game. This was in Insane Mafia and in Haunted Mafia. In one of the games, he was extremely quiet. This was in Kingmaker.


Guess when he was green/blue and when he was red. Yep, During the two big games, he was green/blue, while during Kingmaker, he was red.

Don't let him lurk any further in the game. You need to come out and explain to us exactly why you aren't participating.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 16 2010 02:42 GMT
#906
Wait, was he? I thought he flipped blue? Let me check...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 16 2010 02:45 GMT
#908
Well. You're right. He was red.

But the thing is, he is extremely, extremely inactive this game compared to the other games. Especially compared to Haunted mafia, when his spamming as a green put such an impression in my mind with his "yum yum" crap.


I still want to look at all the lurkers in closer detail.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 17 2010 05:32 GMT
#1013
... I don't think Why is scummy. There are many inactives, and Pandain, who I think are acting so much more suspicious than Why. While he has had his irregularities, I think his patterns are more a careful townie than a red.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 17 2010 19:10 GMT
#1037
Sorry guys. I was afk for a while, with holidays and all. I still don't see why the focus has shifted from Pandain, who's been acting so scummy compared to his previous games. Anyway, Given the spread of votes at this point, I'm going to vote for Pandain.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 18 2010 09:44 GMT
#1187
Fuck, should've hit DrH FUCK

and we lost both detectives to inactivity? jesus christ Why the fuck did you two choose TODAY to be inactive

FUCK pandain and his scumminess. I hope you're happy. -_- your Yum Yum crap loses games.


FoS DrH. Now.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 18 2010 10:33 GMT
#1194
Sigh. After looking at the posts of people who died, one particularly strikes as really true.

By iloveJon:


I definitely suspect Pandain, but I also have my doubts on other players. Here's something about "why" that I made in the last hour or so.

why

On December 11 2010 12:57 why wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 12:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 11 2010 12:20 why wrote:
On December 11 2010 12:14 Mr.Zergling wrote:
I think LSB is making himself suspicious by proposing a 1st kill voting style that can be easily manipulated


I actually think this debacle has made LSB come out looking pretty town. there's no way he wouldn't have thought of these objections if he was mafia and he would have realized that no sane town would ever agree to them.

If we really want to have a private vote and have an auditor, we should have 5 or 6 of them, chosen by RNG, to really ensure there is at least one town among them. Or is that too paranoid?


Pure WIFOM. Of course everything WIFOM is possible, but it's really difficult to read into someone's intentions.


Good point. Sorry about that.

I like reasoned vote a lot. Of all of them I think that would result in the most discussion and more discussion is always better.

On December 14 2010 14:49 why wrote:
right, sorry I'm not used to this.

On December 14 2010 15:24 why wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 15:23 why wrote:
On December 14 2010 15:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 14 2010 15:18 orgolove wrote:
On December 14 2010 15:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Ok, i have a question about the DT.

When a DT checks his target. Does he get the info that night? Or does he get it in the morning? If it returns in the morning, then LSB is lying about orgo killing RoL, because RoL wouldn't be able to tell LSB his result.

If he gets the result at night, then it's still not concrete on LSB.

annuuulllllllllllll


Exactly.Look at his words carefully and you can find countless holes.

And look at LSB's claims right now.

On December 14 2010 15:09 LSB wrote:
Okay, that makes things a lot easier.

1) I contribute to the death eater count. So basically I hold half a KP (like all other death eaters). So yes, I understand, lynching me reduces the same amount of KP as lynching orgolove.
2) Since Meapak is not harry, he must be lying about being blocked. There you go. Two mafia. This explains why RoL was hit
3) As long as I am alive, Harry is unkillable. Thats why you guys should try to keep me alive as long as possible.



Wow. So now he's claiming BOTH of us are lying? When he's have been scummy ALL GAME?

And how many roles is he claiming now? First he claimed to be a Mafia Traitor. Next he claimed to have tracker. Now he's also claiming that, on top of all his other abilities, he's now an advanced martyr.


Are all of you seriously believing this nonsense??


That didn't answer my question...

I've never played DT, so idk how it works. When does the DT get his check results back? :3


This is what annul said on page 25.

1. Substitution roles.
2. Protection roles
3. Investigation roles.
4. Non-standard kill roles.
5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills.
6. Voldemort's personal kill.


Nevermind misread question. Sorry.


Apologetic tone in most of his posts

Being cautious


On December 11 2010 16:06 why wrote:
All my Harry Potter knowledge has gotten me is that whoever is Colin Creevey probably has the sample "Camera Fanatic" power.

Speaking of which, anybody got any good ideas of in flavor power roles for the death eaters? It would be nice to have some idea of what they could be capable of.

On December 13 2010 06:39 why wrote:
If I recall correctly, Snape looked evil but was actually good. I could see him as a miller, but if he was he probably would have claimed already.

On December 13 2010 06:52 why wrote:
^ this makes imperious curse unlikely since there are 8 confirmed death eaters. I guess one of the death eaters could have polyjuice potion or something. But I don't think any of the death eater characters are specifically associated with polyjuice potion like barty crouch jr would have been.

On December 14 2010 15:23 why wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 15:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 14 2010 15:18 orgolove wrote:
On December 14 2010 15:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Ok, i have a question about the DT.

When a DT checks his target. Does he get the info that night? Or does he get it in the morning? If it returns in the morning, then LSB is lying about orgo killing RoL, because RoL wouldn't be able to tell LSB his result.

If he gets the result at night, then it's still not concrete on LSB.

annuuulllllllllllll


Exactly.Look at his words carefully and you can find countless holes.

And look at LSB's claims right now.

On December 14 2010 15:09 LSB wrote:
Okay, that makes things a lot easier.

1) I contribute to the death eater count. So basically I hold half a KP (like all other death eaters). So yes, I understand, lynching me reduces the same amount of KP as lynching orgolove.
2) Since Meapak is not harry, he must be lying about being blocked. There you go. Two mafia. This explains why RoL was hit
3) As long as I am alive, Harry is unkillable. Thats why you guys should try to keep me alive as long as possible.



Wow. So now he's claiming BOTH of us are lying? When he's have been scummy ALL GAME?

And how many roles is he claiming now? First he claimed to be a Mafia Traitor. Next he claimed to have tracker. Now he's also claiming that, on top of all his other abilities, he's now an advanced martyr.


Are all of you seriously believing this nonsense??


That didn't answer my question...

I've never played DT, so idk how it works. When does the DT get his check results back? :3


This is what annul said on page 25.

1. Substitution roles.
2. Protection roles
3. Investigation roles.
4. Non-standard kill roles.
5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills.
6. Voldemort's personal kill.

On December 16 2010 13:23 why wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 13:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 16 2010 13:04 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 16 2010 12:48 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 16 2010 12:41 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 16 2010 11:44 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 16 2010 11:23 Kenpachi wrote:
Lunar is.. Padma Patil

I got annul's approval to claim. Yes, I am Padma Patil and my alternative winning condition I win if Parvati Patil wins.

Let me give the entirety of my winning condition:

I win if Parvati Patil, by any manner, wins.

I don't know how to interpret the last part. I did some research and Parvati is 100% town.

Well, lets get back to decide our next lynch.


Your claim makes no sense.

Why would your alternate win condition be: "I win if another town wins"

The only way this makes sense if one of the two of you are scum. Am I missing something?

Are you aware of your twins identity?


My winning condition is as it is stated. Interpret however you want.
Also, I don't know who my sister is.


Well how do you interpret it? What other way does it make sense unless one of you two are scum?


There are alternate win conditions. We know that when Beneather died, the alternate win count went down by 3. This suggested (to me) that there was a Ravenclaw shared victory (Mr. Zergling, as the 3rd member, is Roger Davies or Cho Chang). There could be a similar Gryffindor House alternate win condition that Lunar can share in (if the Gryffindor house has 3 members, this neatly makes 4 total alternate win conditions left), or Pavarti could have yet another alternate win.



IIOA (Information instead of analysis)
Players who speculate about the setup more than they ask for other players' reasoning and/or accuse other players of being scum are probably group scum.

On December 14 2010 10:46 why wrote:
(ps breadcrumb is when you fill your old posts with hints as to your role so you can confirm role-claim later, this is especially useful for mod-confirmed Masons )


This post doesn't make him sound like a new player at all. And then:

On December 14 2010 13:18 why wrote:
I think we need some other people's thoughts on whether it is a good idea to reveal or not. I'm too inexperienced to know how this typically shakes out.

Wants other people to help him decide on whether an idea is good or not using inexperience as an excuse. Reds usually like the opinion of the masses to help them confirm on things.

+he has a lot of role fishing posts, however he does claim that he is in gryffindor:
On December 16 2010 20:19 why wrote:
By the way, we can confirm (at least the characters of) 3 more people.

Cho Chang or Roger Davies (the one not in the Ravenclaw House) can confirm by saying they are in the Ravenclaw and having no one dispute them (there are 4 total Ravenclaws on the list, 3 are in the House).

There are 5 Gryffindor members on the player list (Harry Potter, Hermione, Colin Creevey, Angelina Johnson, and Pavarti Patil). 3 are in the house. The remaining 2 can claim to be part of the House and, if no one disputes, are confirmed.

Coincidentally, I am in Gryffindor.


But someone needs to back him up on that..

On December 17 2010 10:05 why wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2010 09:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why are we voting Kenpachi? I put a vote on him to see if he would talk but I think at this point it's obvious he is just bad. Don't lynch Kenpachi.

Why:
Extremely inactive
Claims Gryffindor despite Jcarls having a confirmed Gryffindor circle that he ISN'T part of

There isn't a strong lynch right now. I think the Death Eaters have been mostly silent. With the small amount of discussion that's happened in this thread I'm not surprised we have almost no lynch target.


To be clear, I am not claiming to be one of Jcarl's group. I am claiming to have a character that is Gryffindor that is NOT in Jcarl's group (there are 5 total Gryffindor members, 3 in Jcarl's group).


Again he is being very cautious here.



Considering that he's a confirmed townie, I can't help but think why just managed to get by under the radar while that fiasco with DrH and useless roleclaiming happened.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 18 2010 10:37 GMT
#1195
And Pandain, given that you had such an important position, you had a responsibility to the town to NOT ACT SO SCUMMY. WHAT WAS WRONG WITH YOU UGH in a game where there are no full detectives (I think), a role detective is such a huge asset to town... and you never even defended yourself vigorously. Sigh... to think I thought you were a decent player at first...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 19 2010 00:01 GMT
#1216
Sigh. I thought I had the scumhunting down once we got LSB, but i failed with Pandain. I... don't know if I should trust my instincts anymore.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 19 2010 22:07 GMT
#1257
I don't get why DrH became a sudden target of everyone's investigations. I was afk for about half a day, and suddenly half the town wants him dead. Looking back, all I can see is that there's layers upon layers of lies.

One of you are claiming that one of your friends investigated someone else and he was doctor, and that friend said that that someone he investigated was not DrH, and that someone who knew his friend knew that DrH was not Poppy then told you kitaman.

By comparison, we saw that Amber was not a veteran as he had claimed, and thus he had to have been protected by a medic. Further Kenpachi was modkilled, not killed by a mafia. So we don't know for sure if DrH is actually lying. DrH was also one of the instrumental voices (as AirBag) in lynching LSB, who turned out to be 100% red.

This is MYLO. I am as suspicious of DrH (or any one of you) as anyone else. But I'm not going to vote to lynch anyone unless we get something 100% concrete. And that's especially considering how many LIES there were in this game - you might still be lying right now, and trying to start a bandwagon early in the day to seal the deal.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 20 2010 05:06 GMT
#1328
With all this lynching of DrH, I can't help but bring back the spectres of annul's last victory in DrH's experimental Mafia. Just like this, we had seen a "confirmed" blue/group of blues 100% sure that the person we were lynching is a red.

Then suddenly, the person that EVERYBODY was so sure about, that he was such a definite blue, turned out to be a master of disguise.

I'm looking at you Annul.


This is a truly crucial lynch for us. Are we 100% sure that the person leading the charge is clearly a blue?

In this game, there has been clear instances where
1) targets of actions were switched
2) many, many confirmed blues lied (see: the veteran claim)
3) people fake roleclaimed

Here again it feels like we are being led on by the tongue through the fingers of a godfather or some other sort of role that lets you hide your true identity.

And I'm getting a similar vibe from the people leading the discussion to lynch DrH right now - why specifically.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 20 2010 06:02 GMT
#1330
On December 20 2010 14:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 14:06 orgolove wrote:
With all this lynching of DrH, I can't help but bring back the spectres of annul's last victory in DrH's experimental Mafia. Just like this, we had seen a "confirmed" blue/group of blues 100% sure that the person we were lynching is a red.

Then suddenly, the person that EVERYBODY was so sure about, that he was such a definite blue, turned out to be a master of disguise.

I'm looking at you Annul.


This is a truly crucial lynch for us. Are we 100% sure that the person leading the charge is clearly a blue?

In this game, there has been clear instances where
1) targets of actions were switched
2) many, many confirmed blues lied (see: the veteran claim)
3) people fake roleclaimed

Here again it feels like we are being led on by the tongue through the fingers of a godfather or some other sort of role that lets you hide your true identity.

And I'm getting a similar vibe from the people leading the discussion to lynch DrH right now - why specifically.


*Facepalm

Might I suggest that the mafia take this time to bus your scumbuddy? I'm really getting tired of responding to these type of posts.

I'm hardly inclined to trust you when even confirmed blues... you know... lied?

On December 14 2010 10:10 Amber[LighT] wrote:
i took a hit last night. (1 of 2 lives)

If a medic protected someone else it would be a very good idea for them to contact that person to start a mini-circle.
On December 16 2010 11:09 annul wrote:
Amber[LighT] the Moaning Myrtle is dead.

+ Show Spoiler +
you are Moaning Myrtle

you win with the town.

초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 20 2010 08:38 GMT
#1335
On December 20 2010 17:27 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 14:06 orgolove wrote:
With all this lynching of DrH, I can't help but bring back the spectres of annul's last victory in DrH's experimental Mafia. Just like this, we had seen a "confirmed" blue/group of blues 100% sure that the person we were lynching is a red.

Then suddenly, the person that EVERYBODY was so sure about, that he was such a definite blue, turned out to be a master of disguise.

I'm looking at you Annul.


rofl

no, i am not an eligible vote target d00d =P


I was just saying that I was so sure of the lynch during that game, but it turned out that you were fooling all of us.

And it's somehow feeling the same during this game, as we go for what could possibly be our last lynch.

We're seeing the same scenario here. Under the guise of one(?) leader in a supposed town circle, the town is inevitably going towards a single target. Every time in TL mafia, I've been fooled too many times. This time there isn't even any debate whether we have a 100% definite target.

Looking at the results, we've seen that DrH is visited. If it's a town, then you must know exactly who he is. What is he? Is he red? Can you explain to the town?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 20 2010 10:41 GMT
#1340
On December 20 2010 17:55 annul wrote:
if a tracker-type ability like the one you describe exists in the game, the bus driver's ability will be told to the tracker

...Wait, if this is true, then it means someone definitely visited him - the tracker should've known if his detection was moved by the bus driver.


Uggghhhhh At this point I'm even beginning to get suspicious of the claimed tracker - there's nothing the town will lose if DrH is red. Can you please confirm, whoever you are that visited him - what you checked on him?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 21 2010 23:48 GMT
#1389
On December 22 2010 07:00 deconduo wrote:
9. Coagulation
13. Barundar
14. Node
20. orgolove
21. ~OpZ~
30. tube

Are the maf under the following assumptions:

Meapak is Ollivander
Why is a Gryffindor student
Cubed is Flamel
Kitaman is Poppy

Obviously these are big assumptions. The main one I have doubts about is Cube because it doesn't fit into his roleclaim.



I find it amazing you're so quick to dismiss me. I'm not going to claim any names here, but the reason I failed with my role was 100% due to town not trusting me -_- given the limited amount of information I had to work with, I tried my best, but it turned out to be wasted.

Anyway. I still think why is highly suspicious given his past posting. If we have any DT ability left, please check.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 22 2010 22:55 GMT
#1482
Well then. The name list is what really killed us. My efforts to redirect the lynch on day 3 worked fine vs Pandain. But after that the town "circles" already had too many confirmed blues, so my efforts were shit. -_- It was the name list that really guaranteed a town win.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 22 2010 23:22 GMT
#1487
On December 23 2010 08:02 annul wrote:
i do not think that is accurate

what killed mafia was their refusal to fake claim abilities that could apply to multiple names



... Not sure how much you've read HP, but it's really difficult, given the limited number of blue roles, to concoct an ability that would apply to multiples of them.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 23 2010 00:10 GMT
#1490
... didn't mean to insult you. But as a HP mania, you would surely know just how detailed these characters are. If by chance we think up an ability that goes against a tiny detail of the character, it's an immediate red flag. -_- Too much of a risk, especially when the list of characters was already there.
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