• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:37
CET 13:37
KST 21:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
What are former legends up to these days? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1320 users

BC and RoL: Salem Mafia - Page 4

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11 12 Next All
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 00:09 GMT
#623
No, the fishing is fine. Fishing can be pro-town or pro-scum, but it strikes me odd that he does that while at the same time striking out against PMing as a concept and refusing to talk to me at all. It seems hypocritical.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 03:54 GMT
#626
I don't like how activity has died in this thread.

Makes me think mafia are trying to stay quiet to avoid giving us more information while we get one of their own lynched.

If kenpachi turns up red, we need to take a serious serious look at the inactive players in this game. I've sent out some PMs. I'd encourage the rest of the town to do this:
-choose a random inactive and pressure them in PMs.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 04:52 GMT
#633
If you could explain why the bandwagon is dumb in the first place.

If you flip green or blue then DTA and Node will be my highest targets, but for now, operating under the assumption that you're mafia, go for inactives.

If Kenpachi is mafia, he's going to be bussed. Look also at people who joined the bandwagon or made really really soft attacks on him.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 05:54 GMT
#639
it's also because your role claim to me is obviously fake
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 06:51 GMT
#642
The fact that Kenpachi was confused about whether or not he might be a "green role with a special power" because I jokingly claimed busdriver

then claims a very clear blue role to me after constantly saying bullshit to me about how he is a "special townie"

makes it pretty clear to me he is mafia or chaos ensuant
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 08:05 GMT
#645
On November 30 2010 16:55 Coagulation wrote:
OK JUST A WARNING.
anyone voting like this
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 12:05 chaoser wrote:
##vote: abstain

I'm not so sure about this kenpachi thing yet and we still have a day left

chaoser if we have a day left and can make a better lynch and your holding back untill you find it..
why the fuck are you not scumhunting in thread???
just a completely empty reason to avoid a bandwagon on kenpachi.

he is gonna be prime suspect if / when kenpachi flips red.

He's scumhunting in PM's. Chaoser is one of the people I least suspect as of now.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 08:10 GMT
#646
georgeclooney OMGUS voted for brownbear and has been completely inactive since that. thought I should point that out.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 09:04 GMT
#647
Honestly it's pretty important I coordinate with medics tonight.

I can't announce who needs to be protected in public, as it'll be too transparent for the mafia to figure out who is who. I know I'm asking for a lot of roleclaims, but that is what is going to win us this game. I'm thinking that a mass roleclaim might not even be such a bad idea. Mafia are the only players in this game that need to lie and considering how many blues have confirmed to me already, it could be a huge trap.

I'm not going to ask for that yet.

But if you're the second medic and you feel cool claiming to me, do it. If not, don't. I just want to make sure I live along with another important townie.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 16:17 GMT
#665
On December 01 2010 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 18:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Honestly it's pretty important I coordinate with medics tonight.

I can't announce who needs to be protected in public, as it'll be too transparent for the mafia to figure out who is who. I know I'm asking for a lot of roleclaims, but that is what is going to win us this game. I'm thinking that a mass roleclaim might not even be such a bad idea. Mafia are the only players in this game that need to lie and considering how many blues have confirmed to me already, it could be a huge trap.

I'm not going to ask for that yet.

But if you're the second medic and you feel cool claiming to me, do it. If not, don't. I just want to make sure I live along with another important townie.


Sigh I must sound like a broken record. Have we all given up and assumed DrH knowing most of the roles is our only hope on day 2? Even if you turn out town, I think everyone should be more cautious. Why is he our go-to man, rather than Southrawrea, who has been "confrimed" by a detective? Is the rest of the town so passive that we have rely on him winning it for everyone and hope it doesn't backfire? You plant the seed for a mass roleclaim, which would essentially be an all-in move.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 18:50 youngminii wrote:
Just so everyone knows in case DrH turns up as scum or something and tries to do something sneaky (which I doubt will happen anyway), I roleclaimed to him. Obviously I'm not going to say what my role is but chyeah there you go.


-_-

It could be to SR if you'd like.

But let me put it this way:
-if the second medic claims to me, 2 mafia die.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 16:40 GMT
#669
On December 01 2010 01:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 30 2010 18:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Honestly it's pretty important I coordinate with medics tonight.

I can't announce who needs to be protected in public, as it'll be too transparent for the mafia to figure out who is who. I know I'm asking for a lot of roleclaims, but that is what is going to win us this game. I'm thinking that a mass roleclaim might not even be such a bad idea. Mafia are the only players in this game that need to lie and considering how many blues have confirmed to me already, it could be a huge trap.

I'm not going to ask for that yet.

But if you're the second medic and you feel cool claiming to me, do it. If not, don't. I just want to make sure I live along with another important townie.


Sigh I must sound like a broken record. Have we all given up and assumed DrH knowing most of the roles is our only hope on day 2? Even if you turn out town, I think everyone should be more cautious. Why is he our go-to man, rather than Southrawrea, who has been "confrimed" by a detective? Is the rest of the town so passive that we have rely on him winning it for everyone and hope it doesn't backfire? You plant the seed for a mass roleclaim, which would essentially be an all-in move.

On November 30 2010 18:50 youngminii wrote:
Just so everyone knows in case DrH turns up as scum or something and tries to do something sneaky (which I doubt will happen anyway), I roleclaimed to him. Obviously I'm not going to say what my role is but chyeah there you go.


-_-

It could be to SR if you'd like.

But let me put it this way:
-if the second medic claims to me, 2 mafia die.

This goes for the role of mad hatter as well.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 17:39 GMT
#672
On December 01 2010 02:34 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 01:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 01 2010 01:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 01 2010 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 30 2010 18:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Honestly it's pretty important I coordinate with medics tonight.

I can't announce who needs to be protected in public, as it'll be too transparent for the mafia to figure out who is who. I know I'm asking for a lot of roleclaims, but that is what is going to win us this game. I'm thinking that a mass roleclaim might not even be such a bad idea. Mafia are the only players in this game that need to lie and considering how many blues have confirmed to me already, it could be a huge trap.

I'm not going to ask for that yet.

But if you're the second medic and you feel cool claiming to me, do it. If not, don't. I just want to make sure I live along with another important townie.


Sigh I must sound like a broken record. Have we all given up and assumed DrH knowing most of the roles is our only hope on day 2? Even if you turn out town, I think everyone should be more cautious. Why is he our go-to man, rather than Southrawrea, who has been "confrimed" by a detective? Is the rest of the town so passive that we have rely on him winning it for everyone and hope it doesn't backfire? You plant the seed for a mass roleclaim, which would essentially be an all-in move.

On November 30 2010 18:50 youngminii wrote:
Just so everyone knows in case DrH turns up as scum or something and tries to do something sneaky (which I doubt will happen anyway), I roleclaimed to him. Obviously I'm not going to say what my role is but chyeah there you go.


-_-

It could be to SR if you'd like.

But let me put it this way:
-if the second medic claims to me, 2 mafia die.

This goes for the role of mad hatter as well.


I didn't think i'd have any time to post today but here i am, Why would 2 mafia die? Care to explain who and why?


If I could have announced that in public, I would have.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 17:43 GMT
#676
On December 01 2010 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 18:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Honestly it's pretty important I coordinate with medics tonight.

I can't announce who needs to be protected in public, as it'll be too transparent for the mafia to figure out who is who. I know I'm asking for a lot of roleclaims, but that is what is going to win us this game. I'm thinking that a mass roleclaim might not even be such a bad idea. Mafia are the only players in this game that need to lie and considering how many blues have confirmed to me already, it could be a huge trap.

I'm not going to ask for that yet.

But if you're the second medic and you feel cool claiming to me, do it. If not, don't. I just want to make sure I live along with another important townie.


Sigh I must sound like a broken record. Have we all given up and assumed DrH knowing most of the roles is our only hope on day 2? Even if you turn out town, I think everyone should be more cautious. Why is he our go-to man, rather than Southrawrea, who has been "confrimed" by a detective? Is the rest of the town so passive that we have rely on him winning it for everyone and hope it doesn't backfire? You plant the seed for a mass roleclaim, which would essentially be an all-in move.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 18:50 youngminii wrote:
Just so everyone knows in case DrH turns up as scum or something and tries to do something sneaky (which I doubt will happen anyway), I roleclaimed to him. Obviously I'm not going to say what my role is but chyeah there you go.


-_-


Considering 12/30 players have roleclaimed to me privately a mass roleclaim could work later in the game if the cards are correctly played.

If it seems appropriate at the time I'll bring up the possibility but for now it's out of the question.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 18:01 GMT
#678
I'm going to work. I won't be able to keep up with the thread reliably but I can PM easily. So I encourage people who aren't PMing me to PM me.

I'd like to know:
your thoughts on the kenpachi bandwagon as I'm very torn
your top 3 suspects of scum
if you are the real second medic
any scummy PM's others sent you

also my current plan:
Pick the person below you. Or above you if they are dead. Analyse their posts. You can find all of a persons posts in their profile and it'll sort it by thread. Read all of their posts and try to get a rough idea of their GOALS. Logical errors, mind changing, things like that are often scummy but townies are more likely to make that sort of mistake IMO. Remember, look at it from a town perspective versus mafia. Ask yourself "what is a player trying to accomplish with this post or with this PM. What does he gain and who does it benefit most?"

RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 18:23 GMT
#679
wagon forming on amber? im interested because i do have reason to suspect him. glasse and jcarls wanna explain this more?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:22 GMT
#728
kitaman when did i say the dt checked kenpachi

wut

i may have said i want the dt to check kenpachi tonight. please quote me on it tho. i made many mistakes in some pms to kthez because i fuck up when im on my phone which im on right now.

im going to switch to annul. the dta bandwagon wich is the lynch i really want seems to be small and i am now sure kenpachi is legit.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:42 GMT
#734
On December 01 2010 09:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
kitaman when did i say the dt checked kenpachi

wut

i may have said i want the dt to check kenpachi tonight. please quote me on it tho. i made many mistakes in some pms to kthez because i fuck up when im on my phone which im on right now.


Well I don't really see how it could be a mistake, but here you go:

Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Alright I have to share this:

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
well i kno u cant be green since you said you're not miller

i wont reveal u as probable blue/red thought. you don't have to roleclaim to me if you don't want but I am going to be trying to form a town circle.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Kenpachi:
or i might be a special townie :D
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
so ur just normal townie right

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Kenpachi:
No.. im not the miller or a witch last time i checked (2 minutes ago)
dunno if i can believe that your a DT

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
im the dt and i checked you

you're mafia :/

r u the miller?



Also you say his role claim obviously fake. What makes you change your mind? Its not like this information is new to you or anything.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 14:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's also because your role claim to me is obviously fake





rereading his later PM's and the fact that no one counter claimed makes me inclined to believe him. I feel he might be a strong choice for Night 2 investigation although I doubt it.

Anyway Protact is a weak choice. His "day 1 fishing" was clearly designed to be pro-town (you're bad at this game if you can't see that) and he explained his inactivity to me:

I'm sorry, I've been very inactive indeed. I have a test tomorrow and I've been studying all day for it. From the looks of it, I find it pretty crazy for ghrur to switch votes at the last minute. That seems like the last thing a mafia member would want to do. If kenpachi is mafia then I would guess that the mafia would lynch him to gain support of town because offering another lynch candidate right now would seem obscure.

As far as my trust in you, I like the fact that you posted my pm in the thread. That shows a pro-town attitude. The medic claim seems weird to me and I wouldn't be surprised if you were mafia and made up the medic claim.

Just so you know, I should be more active after 3:30 est time tomorrow -- by then my test will be over. If this game lasts til next week, I would like to give you a heads up that I will be taking finals. I was kind of hoping that the games would go by faster than it has been.


-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
Not comfortable with your inactivity. You seem to be a smart enough player with the trap you set in PMs earlier.

Tell me what you're thinking, or whatever you feel comfortable sharing.


I'm feeling him as pro-town, but he's most likely just a townie if he is.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:42 GMT
#735
On December 01 2010 09:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
kitaman when did i say the dt checked kenpachi

wut

i may have said i want the dt to check kenpachi tonight. please quote me on it tho. i made many mistakes in some pms to kthez because i fuck up when im on my phone which im on right now.


Well I don't really see how it could be a mistake, but here you go:

Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Alright I have to share this:

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
well i kno u cant be green since you said you're not miller

i wont reveal u as probable blue/red thought. you don't have to roleclaim to me if you don't want but I am going to be trying to form a town circle.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Kenpachi:
or i might be a special townie :D
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
so ur just normal townie right

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Kenpachi:
No.. im not the miller or a witch last time i checked (2 minutes ago)
dunno if i can believe that your a DT

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
im the dt and i checked you

you're mafia :/

r u the miller?



Also you say his role claim obviously fake. What makes you change your mind? Its not like this information is new to you or anything.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 14:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's also because your role claim to me is obviously fake





also wow could that be any clearer a joke
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:45 GMT
#739
If enough people agree to switch to DTA IMO that is my best choice.

If not I'm starting the bandwagon loud and proud tomorrow.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:48 GMT
#741
FUCK IM GETTING LIKE 20 PMS A SECOND
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:51 GMT
#746
incognitos laughing is impacting this game by leading me to believe he is laughing because we just switched from mafia to townie

ace did the same thing in dont lose yo villlage and it made me think "he's probably laughing because both me and ym are townies"

you all shouldn't do that imo
RIP Aaliyah
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#67
WardiTV759
Rex116
IndyStarCraft 113
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko194
Rex 116
IndyStarCraft 113
SKillous 59
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 6453
Jaedong 1715
Stork 625
Soma 572
Mini 450
Larva 450
Hyuk 363
Hyun 268
ZerO 250
Aegong 206
[ Show more ]
Zeus 201
EffOrt 195
Sharp 189
Snow 181
BeSt 166
Rush 138
JYJ 103
910 91
Pusan 82
Shuttle 80
sorry 69
Leta 66
HiyA 62
Barracks 59
NotJumperer 51
Yoon 50
soO 47
Shine 43
Sea.KH 42
Mind 41
zelot 26
ToSsGirL 23
Movie 19
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
GoRush 12
Bale 7
Terrorterran 4
Icarus 3
Dota 2
Dendi645
XcaliburYe232
420jenkins1
League of Legends
C9.Mang0409
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1872
x6flipin964
Other Games
B2W.Neo1280
Fuzer 250
Mew2King91
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick704
BasetradeTV33
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc246
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2173
Other Games
• WagamamaTV70
Upcoming Events
OSC
23h 23m
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.