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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 00:09 GMT
#623
No, the fishing is fine. Fishing can be pro-town or pro-scum, but it strikes me odd that he does that while at the same time striking out against PMing as a concept and refusing to talk to me at all. It seems hypocritical.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 03:54 GMT
#626
I don't like how activity has died in this thread.

Makes me think mafia are trying to stay quiet to avoid giving us more information while we get one of their own lynched.

If kenpachi turns up red, we need to take a serious serious look at the inactive players in this game. I've sent out some PMs. I'd encourage the rest of the town to do this:
-choose a random inactive and pressure them in PMs.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 04:52 GMT
#633
If you could explain why the bandwagon is dumb in the first place.

If you flip green or blue then DTA and Node will be my highest targets, but for now, operating under the assumption that you're mafia, go for inactives.

If Kenpachi is mafia, he's going to be bussed. Look also at people who joined the bandwagon or made really really soft attacks on him.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 05:54 GMT
#639
it's also because your role claim to me is obviously fake
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 06:51 GMT
#642
The fact that Kenpachi was confused about whether or not he might be a "green role with a special power" because I jokingly claimed busdriver

then claims a very clear blue role to me after constantly saying bullshit to me about how he is a "special townie"

makes it pretty clear to me he is mafia or chaos ensuant
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 08:05 GMT
#645
On November 30 2010 16:55 Coagulation wrote:
OK JUST A WARNING.
anyone voting like this
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 12:05 chaoser wrote:
##vote: abstain

I'm not so sure about this kenpachi thing yet and we still have a day left

chaoser if we have a day left and can make a better lynch and your holding back untill you find it..
why the fuck are you not scumhunting in thread???
just a completely empty reason to avoid a bandwagon on kenpachi.

he is gonna be prime suspect if / when kenpachi flips red.

He's scumhunting in PM's. Chaoser is one of the people I least suspect as of now.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 08:10 GMT
#646
georgeclooney OMGUS voted for brownbear and has been completely inactive since that. thought I should point that out.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 09:04 GMT
#647
Honestly it's pretty important I coordinate with medics tonight.

I can't announce who needs to be protected in public, as it'll be too transparent for the mafia to figure out who is who. I know I'm asking for a lot of roleclaims, but that is what is going to win us this game. I'm thinking that a mass roleclaim might not even be such a bad idea. Mafia are the only players in this game that need to lie and considering how many blues have confirmed to me already, it could be a huge trap.

I'm not going to ask for that yet.

But if you're the second medic and you feel cool claiming to me, do it. If not, don't. I just want to make sure I live along with another important townie.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 16:17 GMT
#665
On December 01 2010 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 18:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Honestly it's pretty important I coordinate with medics tonight.

I can't announce who needs to be protected in public, as it'll be too transparent for the mafia to figure out who is who. I know I'm asking for a lot of roleclaims, but that is what is going to win us this game. I'm thinking that a mass roleclaim might not even be such a bad idea. Mafia are the only players in this game that need to lie and considering how many blues have confirmed to me already, it could be a huge trap.

I'm not going to ask for that yet.

But if you're the second medic and you feel cool claiming to me, do it. If not, don't. I just want to make sure I live along with another important townie.


Sigh I must sound like a broken record. Have we all given up and assumed DrH knowing most of the roles is our only hope on day 2? Even if you turn out town, I think everyone should be more cautious. Why is he our go-to man, rather than Southrawrea, who has been "confrimed" by a detective? Is the rest of the town so passive that we have rely on him winning it for everyone and hope it doesn't backfire? You plant the seed for a mass roleclaim, which would essentially be an all-in move.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 18:50 youngminii wrote:
Just so everyone knows in case DrH turns up as scum or something and tries to do something sneaky (which I doubt will happen anyway), I roleclaimed to him. Obviously I'm not going to say what my role is but chyeah there you go.


-_-

It could be to SR if you'd like.

But let me put it this way:
-if the second medic claims to me, 2 mafia die.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 16:40 GMT
#669
On December 01 2010 01:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 30 2010 18:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Honestly it's pretty important I coordinate with medics tonight.

I can't announce who needs to be protected in public, as it'll be too transparent for the mafia to figure out who is who. I know I'm asking for a lot of roleclaims, but that is what is going to win us this game. I'm thinking that a mass roleclaim might not even be such a bad idea. Mafia are the only players in this game that need to lie and considering how many blues have confirmed to me already, it could be a huge trap.

I'm not going to ask for that yet.

But if you're the second medic and you feel cool claiming to me, do it. If not, don't. I just want to make sure I live along with another important townie.


Sigh I must sound like a broken record. Have we all given up and assumed DrH knowing most of the roles is our only hope on day 2? Even if you turn out town, I think everyone should be more cautious. Why is he our go-to man, rather than Southrawrea, who has been "confrimed" by a detective? Is the rest of the town so passive that we have rely on him winning it for everyone and hope it doesn't backfire? You plant the seed for a mass roleclaim, which would essentially be an all-in move.

On November 30 2010 18:50 youngminii wrote:
Just so everyone knows in case DrH turns up as scum or something and tries to do something sneaky (which I doubt will happen anyway), I roleclaimed to him. Obviously I'm not going to say what my role is but chyeah there you go.


-_-

It could be to SR if you'd like.

But let me put it this way:
-if the second medic claims to me, 2 mafia die.

This goes for the role of mad hatter as well.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 17:39 GMT
#672
On December 01 2010 02:34 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 01:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 01 2010 01:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 01 2010 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 30 2010 18:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Honestly it's pretty important I coordinate with medics tonight.

I can't announce who needs to be protected in public, as it'll be too transparent for the mafia to figure out who is who. I know I'm asking for a lot of roleclaims, but that is what is going to win us this game. I'm thinking that a mass roleclaim might not even be such a bad idea. Mafia are the only players in this game that need to lie and considering how many blues have confirmed to me already, it could be a huge trap.

I'm not going to ask for that yet.

But if you're the second medic and you feel cool claiming to me, do it. If not, don't. I just want to make sure I live along with another important townie.


Sigh I must sound like a broken record. Have we all given up and assumed DrH knowing most of the roles is our only hope on day 2? Even if you turn out town, I think everyone should be more cautious. Why is he our go-to man, rather than Southrawrea, who has been "confrimed" by a detective? Is the rest of the town so passive that we have rely on him winning it for everyone and hope it doesn't backfire? You plant the seed for a mass roleclaim, which would essentially be an all-in move.

On November 30 2010 18:50 youngminii wrote:
Just so everyone knows in case DrH turns up as scum or something and tries to do something sneaky (which I doubt will happen anyway), I roleclaimed to him. Obviously I'm not going to say what my role is but chyeah there you go.


-_-

It could be to SR if you'd like.

But let me put it this way:
-if the second medic claims to me, 2 mafia die.

This goes for the role of mad hatter as well.


I didn't think i'd have any time to post today but here i am, Why would 2 mafia die? Care to explain who and why?


If I could have announced that in public, I would have.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 17:43 GMT
#676
On December 01 2010 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 18:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Honestly it's pretty important I coordinate with medics tonight.

I can't announce who needs to be protected in public, as it'll be too transparent for the mafia to figure out who is who. I know I'm asking for a lot of roleclaims, but that is what is going to win us this game. I'm thinking that a mass roleclaim might not even be such a bad idea. Mafia are the only players in this game that need to lie and considering how many blues have confirmed to me already, it could be a huge trap.

I'm not going to ask for that yet.

But if you're the second medic and you feel cool claiming to me, do it. If not, don't. I just want to make sure I live along with another important townie.


Sigh I must sound like a broken record. Have we all given up and assumed DrH knowing most of the roles is our only hope on day 2? Even if you turn out town, I think everyone should be more cautious. Why is he our go-to man, rather than Southrawrea, who has been "confrimed" by a detective? Is the rest of the town so passive that we have rely on him winning it for everyone and hope it doesn't backfire? You plant the seed for a mass roleclaim, which would essentially be an all-in move.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 18:50 youngminii wrote:
Just so everyone knows in case DrH turns up as scum or something and tries to do something sneaky (which I doubt will happen anyway), I roleclaimed to him. Obviously I'm not going to say what my role is but chyeah there you go.


-_-


Considering 12/30 players have roleclaimed to me privately a mass roleclaim could work later in the game if the cards are correctly played.

If it seems appropriate at the time I'll bring up the possibility but for now it's out of the question.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 18:01 GMT
#678
I'm going to work. I won't be able to keep up with the thread reliably but I can PM easily. So I encourage people who aren't PMing me to PM me.

I'd like to know:
your thoughts on the kenpachi bandwagon as I'm very torn
your top 3 suspects of scum
if you are the real second medic
any scummy PM's others sent you

also my current plan:
Pick the person below you. Or above you if they are dead. Analyse their posts. You can find all of a persons posts in their profile and it'll sort it by thread. Read all of their posts and try to get a rough idea of their GOALS. Logical errors, mind changing, things like that are often scummy but townies are more likely to make that sort of mistake IMO. Remember, look at it from a town perspective versus mafia. Ask yourself "what is a player trying to accomplish with this post or with this PM. What does he gain and who does it benefit most?"

RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 18:23 GMT
#679
wagon forming on amber? im interested because i do have reason to suspect him. glasse and jcarls wanna explain this more?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:22 GMT
#728
kitaman when did i say the dt checked kenpachi

wut

i may have said i want the dt to check kenpachi tonight. please quote me on it tho. i made many mistakes in some pms to kthez because i fuck up when im on my phone which im on right now.

im going to switch to annul. the dta bandwagon wich is the lynch i really want seems to be small and i am now sure kenpachi is legit.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:42 GMT
#734
On December 01 2010 09:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
kitaman when did i say the dt checked kenpachi

wut

i may have said i want the dt to check kenpachi tonight. please quote me on it tho. i made many mistakes in some pms to kthez because i fuck up when im on my phone which im on right now.


Well I don't really see how it could be a mistake, but here you go:

Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Alright I have to share this:

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
well i kno u cant be green since you said you're not miller

i wont reveal u as probable blue/red thought. you don't have to roleclaim to me if you don't want but I am going to be trying to form a town circle.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Kenpachi:
or i might be a special townie :D
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
so ur just normal townie right

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Kenpachi:
No.. im not the miller or a witch last time i checked (2 minutes ago)
dunno if i can believe that your a DT

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
im the dt and i checked you

you're mafia :/

r u the miller?



Also you say his role claim obviously fake. What makes you change your mind? Its not like this information is new to you or anything.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 14:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's also because your role claim to me is obviously fake





rereading his later PM's and the fact that no one counter claimed makes me inclined to believe him. I feel he might be a strong choice for Night 2 investigation although I doubt it.

Anyway Protact is a weak choice. His "day 1 fishing" was clearly designed to be pro-town (you're bad at this game if you can't see that) and he explained his inactivity to me:

I'm sorry, I've been very inactive indeed. I have a test tomorrow and I've been studying all day for it. From the looks of it, I find it pretty crazy for ghrur to switch votes at the last minute. That seems like the last thing a mafia member would want to do. If kenpachi is mafia then I would guess that the mafia would lynch him to gain support of town because offering another lynch candidate right now would seem obscure.

As far as my trust in you, I like the fact that you posted my pm in the thread. That shows a pro-town attitude. The medic claim seems weird to me and I wouldn't be surprised if you were mafia and made up the medic claim.

Just so you know, I should be more active after 3:30 est time tomorrow -- by then my test will be over. If this game lasts til next week, I would like to give you a heads up that I will be taking finals. I was kind of hoping that the games would go by faster than it has been.


-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
Not comfortable with your inactivity. You seem to be a smart enough player with the trap you set in PMs earlier.

Tell me what you're thinking, or whatever you feel comfortable sharing.


I'm feeling him as pro-town, but he's most likely just a townie if he is.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:42 GMT
#735
On December 01 2010 09:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
kitaman when did i say the dt checked kenpachi

wut

i may have said i want the dt to check kenpachi tonight. please quote me on it tho. i made many mistakes in some pms to kthez because i fuck up when im on my phone which im on right now.


Well I don't really see how it could be a mistake, but here you go:

Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Alright I have to share this:

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
well i kno u cant be green since you said you're not miller

i wont reveal u as probable blue/red thought. you don't have to roleclaim to me if you don't want but I am going to be trying to form a town circle.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Kenpachi:
or i might be a special townie :D
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
so ur just normal townie right

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Kenpachi:
No.. im not the miller or a witch last time i checked (2 minutes ago)
dunno if i can believe that your a DT

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
im the dt and i checked you

you're mafia :/

r u the miller?



Also you say his role claim obviously fake. What makes you change your mind? Its not like this information is new to you or anything.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 14:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's also because your role claim to me is obviously fake





also wow could that be any clearer a joke
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:45 GMT
#739
If enough people agree to switch to DTA IMO that is my best choice.

If not I'm starting the bandwagon loud and proud tomorrow.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:48 GMT
#741
FUCK IM GETTING LIKE 20 PMS A SECOND
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 00:51 GMT
#746
incognitos laughing is impacting this game by leading me to believe he is laughing because we just switched from mafia to townie

ace did the same thing in dont lose yo villlage and it made me think "he's probably laughing because both me and ym are townies"

you all shouldn't do that imo
RIP Aaliyah
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