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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 28 2010 08:31 GMT
#471
yes it is the only reason actually
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 28 2010 08:37 GMT
#472
For DTA, he responded poorly to pressure basically. I'll be ready to reveal the information after the night is over.

Coagulation comes second under my radar for his aggressive posting and he made a couple of soft defenses of DTA in PM's to me. I originally didn't like how SouthRawrea was responding to PM's I sent him but I'm more inclined now to believe he is town.

I don't have my mind totally made up about Pandain but because I am in such close correspondence with him I think a DT check on him might be a waste because if he slips up I'll have no problems noticing it.

When a DT gets to me through a confirmed townie, then we'll start confirming more blues: starting with my pocket medic. But for now I want to focus on maybe getting a scum tonight? We got BrownBear day 1 so we might as well take the momentum that's in our favor.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 28 2010 17:04 GMT
#511
Get out and don't come back kid.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 28 2010 17:24 GMT
#515
IMO we should stop discussing this and move on completely. Discussion of bans should be in the ban thread only. This can ruin the game for new players and I don't want to see BC's game turn into the fiasco that Haunted was on Night 1.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 28 2010 18:38 GMT
#524
On November 29 2010 03:36 annul wrote:
i think he should random a green and give him the DT =\

I support this notion!
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 28 2010 20:28 GMT
#531
I'm going to work and I might be absent for the beginning of the day. I can still respond to PM's on my phone but reading the thread/replying to people is kinda difficult and cumbersome. I'm interested in knowing everyones thoughts so if we haven't talked yet, we should.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 02:25 GMT
#573
I was actually really really suspicious of Node/YM although no mafia would ever cast FoS on fellow mafia through PM's, I can't think of a worse play and Ghrur isn't an idiot.

He's the type of mafia player that gets carried, but carried very well. His posts are always well thought out and meticulous (i know having been on a scumteam before with him)

So I have to reevaluate some stuff.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 02:43 GMT
#574
A town circle is growing. I'm not sure exactly what is safe to say in public yet. Any info/pm's you have from Ghrur could you please post them in the town and/or PM them to me?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 03:43 GMT
#584
To keep people away from the BB vote list?

If he's trying to fool Amber, this also confirms Amber to me.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 03:50 GMT
#586
I'd bet money that you aren't the chaos ensurgent. Pandain just wants to think he's struck gold.

You're backed into a corner and tbh in my mind it's a stalemate between you being mafia or node/youngminii/dta being mafia. You're suspicious based on objective principles but DTA/Youngminii/Node have all ACTED very scummy to me. But the inconsistency lies with Ghrur.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 03:53 GMT
#588
i'm starting to know you? uh what does that mean exactly
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 04:08 GMT
#591
It is crucial that you tell me if Ghrur PM'd you and what he said. Post it in the thread if you like.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 19:56 GMT
#600
and suddenly this game has slowed way down? Why?

Youngminii needs to start posting and contributing. He has been ignoring me intentionally in PMs and I don't buy his reasoning.

You got there by being stubborn and not listening, not because you analysed things

You're a smart player even if you're hotheaded and you need to do something of value.

Let me put it this way: if you skirt by without really contributing and avoiding talking in PM land as well, my votes going to be on you pretty quick.

You must be thinking something in that head of yours.

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Original Message From youngminii:
and look where that got me last game
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
you can't seriously have no thoughts at all

not a player like you

it's not your inactivity that makes me uncomfortable, it's that you have nothing to say at all. there's been too much discussion for you to have zero analysis

you always seem so sure about your convictions

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Original Message From youngminii:
honestly, i don't know

everyone seems to have differing opinions/targets and i don't wanna jump in to the fray and accuse someone too quickly like last time (<3)

dislike pm land, that's for sure
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
tell me a bit about your thoughts going into the game now?

quite a bit to talk about I think

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Original Message From youngminii:
<3
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
u were such a jerk 2 me in the last game

you called my defense bad but i didn't think it was bad T_T

if you accuse me wrongly in this game will you listen to me first? dta is already trying to start a bullshit bandwagon and his explanation in pms to me was really shoddy

anyway i hope we can be friends this game because if you piss me off i'll make sure quickstriker is on ur team in every game I mod

so if you have a big beef, let's talk about it one on one before we shit up the thread because we all know how much I like to post/spam when I feel threatened (on both sides of the alignment coin)

at least a little bit.


It's been quite a while since that last PM I sent him and I've gotten no reply.

Glasse has also contributed basically nothing, spammed this thread, and spent the entirety of this day completely inactive and no one has called him out in it yet? What's up with that. I sent him a PM a while ago telling him to stop spamming and start contributing

r u gonna stop spamming and start being helpful

not saying you're red, just saying i don't like it. i know you have some good thoughts on the game, you should share them constructively.

id be interested to know what you thought of the following players:
radfield
pandain
kenpachi
youngminii


He never replied and I sent this roughly 24 hours ago.

These people (off the top of my head) are also hardly contributing:
hardly contributing:
kthez
esbenpm
kthez
protactinium
annul

Now in a moment like this, if kenpachi is indeed mafia, mafia needs to play it safe and lay low until an opportunity for an alternative bandwagon presents itself. If my gut feeling is correct, Kenpachi is a bogus wagon, but logically it makes a lot of sense and the amount of information received from Kenpachi's death will be useful. It will be very telling of the alignment of several key players I've been PMing on a regular basis and it will help me narrow down the list of who I need to hunt as scum.

That's why I want you to roleclaim to me Kenpachi. If you're a DT or a medic, something valuable like that, you need to tell me this. You said if you tell me your special role you'll die, but if I already know a medic, and 2 other blue roles, why haven't they died as well? I think the mafia choices for hits make it pretty clear they have not been active in fishing, finding blues, or been doing anything of significance in PM's. In fact the choices they made have made me inclined to believe Pandain is probably innocent as well.

I have some PMs from other players I need to re-examine that I haven't gotten to yet. Again, it is very important if ghrur pm'd you anything that you reveal it.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 20:16 GMT
#603
The second mad hatter should claim to me. It's possible there are three mad hatters in this game, but it seems unlikely. If you don't want to claim to me and find me suspicious, then claim to SR who was the townie confirmed by a DT. I have a plan if this kenpachi business turns out the way I think it might turn out and your help would be very much needed.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 20:38 GMT
#604
Can BC please update the list with who is dead?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 20:51 GMT
#607
I understand why it would make you uncomfortable. My case for why people should trust me is pretty simple:

1. Look at the mafia hit choices, all players who aren't active in my circle, mostly green roles except deconduo
2. Considering the amount of blue roles that have already claimed to me, the failure at blue sniping showed we have what is likely a very inexperienced mafia
3. Much like in Insane Mafia I've given a lot of myself out to the town and to others in PMs and I've played very recklessly. High risk, high reward, mafia can't take that chance.

Trust me or don't. I'm asking for these things, not demanding them. I am demanding Kenpachi roleclaim though, he really has no other way out. He should do it to me or SouthRawrea if he does.

Here is my PMs with Ghrur:
KK thanks. ^_^ That was a lot more concise and to the point than my old pms with Bill Murray, lol.

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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
pressure the shit out of people, see how they react

mafia will feel pressured to respond to any PM they get, they're far more likely to crack/slip-up because they feel like it's easier to fool one person than the entire town

always have a backup PM line that u trust in case you die because of something you said in PM's so that all of your analysis isn't lost when you die

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Original Message From ghrur:
Kk, fishing aside, would you mind posting (or just telling me :D) how to effectively use the PM system?

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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
skeletons actually

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Original Message From ghrur:
Vampires? I thought we were zombies.

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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
who else is on our team ???

what do you mean why would you lynch me if we are both vampires

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Original Message From ghrur:
Thanks for the Day one lynch.

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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
my role pm didnt tell me who else was mafia but i know u r so can you tell me?

I forgot I even got them since they were so early in the game (and my inbox is so full). but there isn't really anything to analyse there, he was just asking for advice.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 21:07 GMT
#610
On November 30 2010 05:57 Coagulation wrote:
Guys i think we should look at lynching glasse as a possibility
usually he is an over 9000 pro town contributer who leads town with lethal scum hunting precision and fierce determination.

im just not seeing it this game.

if by lethal scum hinting precision you mean meowing, accusing me badly of being mafia when I'm not, spamming threads, and constantly lying then yeah ur right

are you serious?

his play in insane mafia was embarrassing as town. his only good game was haunted and even then he could have taken it a lot further, I was just impressed because he was new.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 22:47 GMT
#616
You are useless. So you think this is some bullshit reverse psychology trap? I almost want to vote for you.

Just so the town knows I sent three PM's to glasse early none of which he responded to.

u seem to be fake claiming vet which is a decisively town move that has led me to believe you are the vig or the DT

if you are the dt you should check 1 of 2:
coagulation
aeres

both would be a strong check

also protactinium is a good choice, he sent me a very strange PM


but u know I'm probably just being over analytical

nothing u do makes sense to me anyway.

keep crazying it up, especially in PMs. start pming people weird shit, gibberish, asking them questions like "do your parents know ur mafia" and stuff like that

mafia will get really defensive, not respond, or try to change the subject to someone else like immediately so just keep a check on how everybody responds

townie has nothing to be afraid of, naw mean?


r u gonna stop spamming and start being helpful

not saying you're red, just saying i don't like it. i know you have some good thoughts on the game, you should share them constructively.

id be intersting to know what you thought of the following players:
radfield
pandain
kenpachi
youngminii


the only time you did post was spam and that was too long ago

you don't have to trust me or follow my advice, but that doesn't mean talking should be out of the question. i have to put an FoS on this.

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Original Message From Glasse:
how can someone be inactive and spammy at the same time?

i'm trying a different way to play, i ignored your pm because i am following my own advice and not trusting anyone

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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
need to stop being so inactive and spammy

you ignored my last pm, what is your deal dude?


Here is where it gets weird. AT THE START OF THE GAME HE FISHES FOR MY ROLE.

redacted for my safety

i'm not a fantastic scumhunter, I'm not ballsy enough for it

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Glasse:
so, since pms are allowed...

are you red?

i won't tell i swear! this is a PRIVATE message

:3


Here's the answer a scum is hoping for. "No, I'm the DT actually" "No, I got medic. I'm confused on this game" stuff like that.

So you're going to fish at me at PM's then refuse to respond to all of mine because "you don't trust me"?

I'm strongly inclined to switch my vote over to you for this scummy behavior.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 22:50 GMT
#617
As far as his posts:

On November 27 2010 08:21 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 08:07 Glasse wrote:
hi, don't waste a blue role on me, not worth it. (medic, dt, other stuff we have)

meatshield represent.



OH MY GOD

stop the pm spam, this meant green, not crazy thing with multiple hits


i'm useless so i'm a meat shield


Early green claim.

On November 28 2010 06:53 Glasse wrote:
wow pming drh is a bad thing i guess

he just posts everything rofl


Don't PM! Don't trust DrH! Even though I fished on him!

On November 28 2010 11:07 Glasse wrote:
i remember reading someone said town circles would be much safer, don't forget there is also a godfather

Always be careful of who you talk to and what you tell them.


Don't talk to people in pms.

On November 29 2010 03:32 Glasse wrote:
i just caught up on reading and now i am kinda sad... why do people do this..?

anyway, with pms its really easy to get caught in a trap by reds, be careful who you talk to and what you tell them :3


Don't talk to people in pms.

See a common theme?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 22:59 GMT
#620
So it was made clear that your pm was a joke because I sent a joke response?

You're refusing to contribute in the thread, you're refusing to contribute in PMs. You said you're green, so how exactly are you planning to make yourself useful? By confusing everybody as usual?
RIP Aaliyah
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