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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 14 2010 02:12 GMT
#281
I'd say if you have a neutral province nearby, go ahead and take it.
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
November 14 2010 02:47 GMT
#282
On November 14 2010 09:54 annul wrote:
so your logic is

dont attack because ... "if you attack, you may get more votes, and if you get more votes, its bad for town (?????????)"


If you attack, you may eliminate other people. If you eliminate other people, there are less people in the game. If there are less people in the game, Mafia has to convince less people to vote toward a townie to get them lynched. If Mafia has to convince less people, it's easier to start a bandwagon. Both of the last 2 if->then statements are bad for town.
darkness overpowering
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 14 2010 02:52 GMT
#283
only if you assume that the town will be making bad decisions and/or following mafia bandwagons.

also, you could attack and take out mafia too, right?

i think you assume attacking will always take out town when it can also take out mafia.

if town attacks town, town does not lose any votes, it is only concentrated in a smaller number of PLAYERS. this is not inherently bad.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 14 2010 02:53 GMT
#284
I just got confirmation that Coagulation has the names of all of the provinces. We need to pressure him to update the map.

Hurry Coagulation!! =)
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 14 2010 02:59 GMT
#285
=O Go go go you stingy bastard!

Wait too long and I'll assume you're hiding things from us! =P
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 03:09:55
November 14 2010 03:06 GMT
#286
On November 14 2010 11:52 annul wrote:
only if you assume that the town will be making bad decisions and/or following mafia bandwagons.

also, you could attack and take out mafia too, right?

i think you assume attacking will always take out town when it can also take out mafia.

if town attacks town, town does not lose any votes, it is only concentrated in a smaller number of PLAYERS. this is not inherently bad.


From my experience here at TL Mafia, town usually DOES make bad decisions and they DO follow the mafia bandwagon. But that's not even the problem. The problem is that if you start eliminating fellow townies and gaining more votes, each individual person has more weight. It becomes kind of like a lylo situation where if Mafia convinces one person, town loses. I mean, I doubt it'll get that extreme, but it heads towards that anyway.

And attacking and taking out mafia has a lower probability of happening than attacking and taking out town. I'd rather we secure the neutral territories, CLAIM if you're the nation that secured a neutral territory, and then defend to see where mafia gets aggressive. This way, we can scrutinize the players with more influence and we can try and we can narrow down who is mafia. Of course, the problem as always is mafia fake claiming as a nation that took a neutral territory, but then they'll just be watched more closely. If they took one over and didn't claim, we, as town, can then be aggressive toward that nation. If they took one over and claim, once again, heavy scrutiny falls upon them.

Also, votes concentrated in smaller numbers is usually bad. That's why lylo situations aren't good, because you depend on one person. Furthermore, we have no way of telling which side the votes are being concentrated in.

Edit:
FoS on Brownbear. No explanation of why he voted Veldril... at all.
darkness overpowering
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 14 2010 03:13 GMT
#287
can you post the most up to date version of the map in the OP? I want to know where to send my soldiers tonight. Thanks.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 14 2010 03:17 GMT
#288
Also, is PMing allowed? Editing also?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 14 2010 03:21 GMT
#289
On November 14 2010 12:17 Ace wrote:
Also, is PMing allowed? Editing also?

This better be true (PMing). Or else I just cheated with everyone in the game.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
November 14 2010 03:29 GMT
#290
Yeap I'm a dirty cheater if pming isn't allowed :X
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 14 2010 03:32 GMT
#291
Hah as am I =(

I feel like most people at this point have PMd, so the game is screwed if it's not allowed.
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
November 14 2010 03:35 GMT
#292
Considering risk-quese nature of this setup I would be surprised if PM was forbidden though. And if it's not, we can just re-roll everything.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 14 2010 03:42 GMT
#293
On November 14 2010 09:22 Chezinu wrote:
Can everyone pm me their roles and/or province? I would really like that since I'm a good guy. Note: If we take over all of the neutral land then the communist will become vulnerable.


What if scenario: What if the mafia has Missionary as special role?

1. Communist is anti-town
2. If mafia has a Missionary it would be wayyyy OP
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 14 2010 03:46 GMT
#294
pming is allowed herp derp
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 14 2010 04:57 GMT
#295
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 14 2010 04:58 GMT
#296
Yay! Thanks Coag.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 14 2010 05:01 GMT
#297
Thanks Coag!

And 25 is not a neutral territory? X.X
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 14 2010 05:01 GMT
#298
sorry for the delay
looks like 18 / 14 / 9 / 7 / 3 are up for grabs
waiting for caller to confirm.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 14 2010 05:01 GMT
#299
he sent me a pm with a name for 25
so i assumed he wanted it in there. maybe there was a last minute change.
Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
November 14 2010 05:08 GMT
#300
Hmmm.. very interesting. What's the map for ?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Day[9} <3
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