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On November 02 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:
Okay maybe I made a giant assumption about the Cruiseship Captain role's authenticity. I always thought it was just assumed to be made up along with the whole bodyguard role.
I just want to point this out, from the Day 2 post.
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
At least some people stayed quiet. One person left the town to do some illegal activity legally, another person put on his favorite lingerie and admired himself all night.
It's been said before by Artanis that there are no clues directed to players, but there could be clues directed to certain roles in the game. This is the closest connection I can find.
Now if this is indeed the Cruise Ship Captain, what does "illegal activity legally" means? This would be for another discussion.
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On November 02 2010 13:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Due to the modkills, a PM network was severely damaged. For balance reasons, one player has been added.
I can confirm this. This was a Mod decision to add a member due to the 3 unexpected modkills. NOT a player ability. As I've said it once, I do not have such an ability to add players to my circle.
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One last update before I go to sleep.
- We have 4 members in the circle now, including myself. We all know who each other are.
- 2 members have role claimed to me, which includes the new member.
- The last member finally replied, and have refused to role claim to me for now, explaining that he wants to play it safe for a while.
Good night.
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I like how I linked Radio LOONY to Glasse, and that was brushed aside.
Then I linked Aeres's Cruise Ship Captain claim to the Day 2 post. This was also brushed aside :/
Now that Glasse did come out and confirm it, (whether he is lying or not is another case), people are going "Oh! That was you!!"
My face: -_-
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On November 02 2010 22:37 Glasse wrote:
you were brushed off because i was trying to have fun by denying everything
now that i admited though, its obviously me :3
I'm starting to come to a conclusion that your reading comprehension sucks...
I'm not talking about you who brushed it aside. In fact you're the only that DID reply to me originally.
I'm talking about the rest of the players. See how they are jumping out now?
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On November 03 2010 02:31 Infundibulum wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 02:27 CubEdIn wrote:
So you don't think that the mafia knowing that I'm a doctor is a negative?
Basically, I'm a "goto" target each night, and if I want to live, I need to self-protect myself a lot. Thus making my role almost useless.
I don't see why you think anyone else (other than the mayor/bodyguards, maybe) would make a better target than a 100% confirmed by mods doctor.
IMO, by role-claiming, I just leveled the playing field a bit. His point is that even though the mafia knowing you're a doctor is a negative, it's still strictly superior to being a straight vanilla townie in pretty much every possible scenario. Therefore, L says, there must be some kind of catch. On the other hand Artanis/LSB could have just screwed up and not realized that one choice was better than the other, but that's not something I'd readily assume.
I honestly think the mods could have easily overlooked this situation.
Yesterday, I actually had to convince Artanis to make an announcement of an additional circle member, and explain the consequences if we don't.
Also, the way I see it, his role is a heavy trade-off. You either play a dull role, or you get a fun one but the Mafia knows. This is assuming his role is legit.
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On November 03 2010 02:46 LunarDestiny wrote:
Youngminii - He escaped one lynch for some reasons. DrH also pointed out that his willingness to keep gunning for Aeres makes him less likely to be red.
You left out the part where Infinitestory has pointed out that his willingness to keep gunning for Aeres makes him MORE likely to be red.
Selective reasoning much?
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On November 03 2010 03:23 L wrote: There is no tradeoff. None. What's mafia going to do about you being a doctor? Waste a roleblock to hit you and get rid of a player who would have otherwise been a townie? Its literally 100% +EV to take doctor unless we're being lied to or unless someone else has a complementary role.
We're obviously talking about the same thing on a different level, so this is pointless.
Yes that IS a trade-off, but whether it makes sense or not, is another story. I like how you quoted just that line and that line only, where I first mentioned this could easily be a mod "mistake" if true.
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On November 03 2010 03:13 Fishball wrote:
Also, the way I see it, his role is a heavy trade-off.
On November 03 2010 03:23 L wrote:
There is no tradeoff. None.
On November 03 2010 03:28 Fishball wrote:
Yes that IS a trade-off, but whether it makes sense or not, is another story.
On November 03 2010 03:34 L wrote:
It is not, however, a tradeoff at all unless there's another hidden piece of the puzzle.
Ohhh I've seen this before.
I'm just going to take my own advice.
On November 03 2010 03:28 Fishball wrote:
We're obviously talking about the same thing on a different level, so this is pointless.
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On November 03 2010 03:37 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 03:13 Fishball wrote:On November 03 2010 02:31 Infundibulum wrote:On November 03 2010 02:27 CubEdIn wrote:
So you don't think that the mafia knowing that I'm a doctor is a negative?
Basically, I'm a "goto" target each night, and if I want to live, I need to self-protect myself a lot. Thus making my role almost useless.
I don't see why you think anyone else (other than the mayor/bodyguards, maybe) would make a better target than a 100% confirmed by mods doctor.
IMO, by role-claiming, I just leveled the playing field a bit. His point is that even though the mafia knowing you're a doctor is a negative, it's still strictly superior to being a straight vanilla townie in pretty much every possible scenario. Therefore, L says, there must be some kind of catch. On the other hand Artanis/LSB could have just screwed up and not realized that one choice was better than the other, but that's not something I'd readily assume. I honestly think the mods could have easily overlooked this situation. Yesterday, I actually had to convince Artanis to make an announcement of an additional circle member, and explain the consequences if we don't. Also, the way I see it, his role is a heavy trade-off. You either play a dull role, or you get a fun one but the Mafia knows. This is assuming his role is legit. IMO townie is a lot more fun to be than a blue...
Well, you're one of those people then.
But hey look, someone that would actually consider playing a Townie than a blue role!
This COULD be a trad... nevermind.
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Well I just got home. I was dragged into an urgent meeting for 4 hours. As it finished, I whipped out my phone as quick as I can to check the thread, but the moment TL finished loading, I saw a shiny new PM at the top corner; I was prepared for the worst.
Just didn't expect a meeting out of nowhere, that happens once in a blue moon, which actually required me to stay OT too (without pay).
My last, non-game-breaking last words.
I never voted for Aeres. (Duh?) 
I actually have a lot more to say, but... must resist.
Good luck Mafia, I just did you a big favor by dying 
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On November 04 2010 11:45 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 11:37 LunarDestiny wrote:
Wait... my statement of Coagulation flicking Booger at a random mafia member which I say is Pandain is not wrong.
Coagulation say he is a retard and can fling booger (we will know after the lynch).
The mod post in the voting thread say booger is flung to a random mafia member. The mafia member "ran out".
Pandain is hit with "green substance" who also "ran out".
So the question is booger can be green right... I don't really pick my booger so I don't know. I apologize for posting but having vast experience on this subject matter, I found myself incapable of not answering this question. Boogers are composed of dried nasal mucus, and are often a dark yellow color, and occasionally carry a greenish hue, but only the most veteran nosepickers are informed of this. Fun fact, a little less then half of adults have eaten their snot and have enjoyed it. Snot is meant to be consumed regardless, as mucus normally gets swallowed after cilia sends it down the hatch. Feasting on others' boogers is generally shunned upon as the mucus may carry foriegn bacteria harmful to different bodies.
A pic is better than a thousand words
![[image loading]](http://i55.tinypic.com/207qrdg.jpg)
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You guys see this? 
I'm eating it.
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On November 10 2010 08:44 LSB wrote:
Guys I'd like to congratulate you all for making this the largest thread in the Mafia forum since TL Mafia 2.
(only 3100+ posts to go!)
Only if I didn't die.
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E-Han timing once again
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On November 10 2010 08:54 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2010 08:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Good luck town.
Watch out for Artanis[Xp]'s pro-mafia role names :p Watcher that tracks, what a cruel joke.
I was going to bring this up after the game ended, but since both kitman and Ace is dead, I might as well spit it out.
Mafia Scum wiki or w/e isn't absolute on how role works. To me, a Watcher "watches" things; It can pretty well means he can watch over every single action of another player.
It's really up to the host and how he wants to set it up. In this case, It seems like Artanis just wants to buff up the powers of a common Watcher role. Also keep in mind, this is "Insane" Mafia, nothing is standard.
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On November 12 2010 10:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 10:10 LunarDestiny wrote:On November 12 2010 10:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
there is an epic quotes thread I remember, you switched votes to spare pandain. But I am the one that warned LSB that we got an extra hour... it was not smart of me. i think i honestly lost town this game.
Trash Collector that can check alignments, yet... people buy it.
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On November 12 2010 12:45 Amber[LighT] wrote:It was frustrating to watch Ace/L/Pandain post because deep down I thought they were all shady, and I bought the bullshit and for 2-3 vote cycles Pandain avoided lynches. He was never confirmed and people kept asking for Pandain to post, and no one ever followed up. It was like Pandain got greased up for this game and slid through everyone's minds. I couldn't believe how spot on I was with my zombie hit though. I was pretty worried that I was going to hit a blue and get shamed forever from mafia games. Sry RoL you're just to fun to pick on, and it came down to you, Ace, or L.  So what happened with this PM circle? Did it just die after FB died? Also people who jumped on bandwagon lynches to take out the detectives should do another read through the game and see why it was not a good idea. This was a constant issue the entire game 
Like I said, half the circle was fucking inactive from the very beginning. 2 of them got mod killed right off the bat and Orgolove also got mod killed later.
The members were me, Orgolove, KtheZ, QuickStriker, Misder and ShmotZ.
If I hadn't die, and Misder didnt't get himself modkilled as well on the same friggin day, I'm quite set. Misder was one of the earliest members to role claim to me, and he was going to be my personal medic.
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On November 12 2010 12:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I was honestly just really scared to go after you. Your name has a lot of clout and with no one to really back me up I felt too nervous to go with my gut which from day 2 told me you were scum.
I started feeling unsure about Pandain later. The funny thing is if I stuck with my original intentions and feelings I would have lynched Divinek on the first day and pushed for you and Pandain to be lynched on the second day.
The worst mistake I feel I made was over posting. I'm used to spamming a bit as mafia and only later did I realize I shouldn't respond to everything people post. Secondly I wasn't confident and I played a little bit too reactionary.
My rule of thumb: kill the players, not the roles. Wait, that's more of a Mafia guideline.
When you've observed enough, you'll know what certain players are capable of (in a more refined way). You can definitely tell if something doesn't add up, and I can say you're definitely capable of reading this.
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Speaking of mod kills, this is still baffling me.
On Day 2, I noticed among all the mod kills, only Masq was replaced.
Here is the summary of mod kills in this game:
Night 1 - Two mod kills (There is one replacement but it was not a mod kill)
Day 2 - One mod kill and replacement
Night 2 - Three mod kills
Day 3 - One mod kill
A total of seven mod kills this game, where two of them were Mafia, but only one mod kill was replaced by another player, L.
I was going to bring this up with town after Day 2's lynch was over, but unfortunately I was dead. Keep in mind at this point of the game, there were only three mod kills when I first noticed this irregular pattern, so after Night 2 and three more mod kills, someone should notice this right? No.
I PM'd Ace after I died, and said I would have immediately hit this player if I were a vigilante or the sort. Ace said L was a replacement he found for Masq.
We all know the hosts are playing strictly by their rules this game. Not much leniency was given. But why would a single player being mod killed would be replaced, while the 6 others were not? It's pretty obvious that someone else knows the "very existence" of this player; In this case, the Mafia/3rd Party.
PS. Though not mod killed, RoL who replaced Lol1221 was also Mafia. Go figure.
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