On November 13 2010 01:59 aidnai wrote:I watched most of this game. I'm new to online mafia games, though mafia used to be a favorite party game when I was in highschool. My two cents on this game:
Dr. H, you're better mafia than you are town (apparently you're much more experienced as scum?). Actually, you are quite awesome as mafia, but as pointed out early (and you yourself admitted), your scumhunting was lackluster (i think the spaminess hurt). Not to be too hard on you though, since your leadership was actually great (just look at the town after you died lol).
Town, Ace, L, and Pandain were all lynches you should have made happen. If you had nailed these guys earlier, the thread would have been a LOT less spammy and confusion-inducing. Instead, they were allowed to defend themselves via shouting matches while town made the stupidest lynch decisions possible.
Kenpachi, your self-defense was really weak. It looked like Mafia cut you loose, just like they did with Coag. I believed Pandain was GF 100% until he called you out and you responded so poorly. You knew he was GF 100% as soon as he called you out, you should have forcefully argued this with the town. There were good reasons on your side:
- No other mayor candidates flipped red, but there's no way Mafia wouldn't put forward a candidate
- Coag asked a DT to check Panda (XD L)
- Pandain did not follow through with campaign promises or contribute to scumhunting
- Pandain picked the EASIEST POSSIBLE role to fake for a mafia--alignment checker
- etc.
Mafia, you spread chaos and terror like raspberry jam on toast. I don't think we saw the most nuanced, subtle play from your side, but it got the job done so who can argue? Actually, I think this game style is probably effective in a game this size, with no role lists. If you make mistakes (and you are sure to with so many people), just spam spam spam until nobody remembers. It shouldn't work in a small game though, so don't try this at home.
Hosts, great job, super fun set-up. The tracker/watcher thing did not throw me at all (prolly since I don't play online games?).
Third party: Correct me if I'm wrong, but
Show nested quote +On November 11 2010 06:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Regarding win condition: Mafia need to kill all non-mafia non-third party members to win. LSB is wrong in this. I decided on this ruling because a number of things could still jeopardize mafia victory even if they gain a numerical advantage in town, therefore they wouldn't be assured victory.
Doesn't this mean 100% you can't win with mafia? That scum is most definitely going to betray you? correct me if I'm wrong here. Also, Lunar, I might be wrong, but I think you could have claimed Vigi and called out Ace, thus saving the town from one of their god-awful lynches.
Very fun game to watch, I'll be playing next time for sure.
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