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On November 04 2010 04:15 deconduo wrote:
Went through the list of people, and these are the names that I feel are lurking:
Hyperbola
infundibulum
Kenpachi
KtheZ
Lexpar
kitaman27
And to a lesser extent:
Bumatlarge (Ran for mayor, haven't seen him much since apart from the bit about Dr. H and his circle)
LunarDestiny
Meapak_Ziphh
I'd be most wary of infundibulum. I don't know how busy he is but he is a pretty experienced player and he's hardly contributed here at all. Hyperbola too.
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CubEdIn doesn't need to and shouldn't explain his logic
not everything has to be spelled out and townies don't and shouldn't say everything they're thinking right away. there is something to be said for not giving the mafia information they don't need.
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no he isn't but just because somebody isn't confirmed doesn't mean they need to spill all their thoughts
a trap ain't a trap if you explain it first eh
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i never sent you a code/decoder but ok D:
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i don't know, i'm not even sure if that has the same character count
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oh the slashes in the password match up. the character count seems to be different but i really don't understand codes at all so that doesn't mean anything
i agree with you about bum, there is no reason a medic should announce their plans to the town/mafia and idk how i feel about kitaman27 criticising him for not explaining exactly what he was thinking
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On November 04 2010 07:20 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 07:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i agree with you about bum, there is no reason a medic should announce their plans to the town/mafia and idk how i feel about kitaman27 criticising him for not explaining exactly what he was thinking Nope, pretty sure that didn't happen. I never put him at fault for not explaining his actions. Although, that is the second time you have tried to place blame upon me.
oh no i'm not trying to blame you but it seemed to me like you wanted him to explain what he was doing when i interpreted it as a trap at the time
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Bum  Well there goes my PM network eh.
Seems DC was protected though, that's good.
"Some looney tried to force his way into a house, but this attempt failed. The man himself was out of town for the night." makes me think there is either a commuter or another cruiseship captain.
"Blue pill is not what you think." Does Glasse know something about CubEdIn?
Anyway I'm gonna wait for a bit and see if the person I poked came forward. I'll reveal their name after a while.
Shit this is gonna suck without Bum, fuck.
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On November 04 2010 08:15 LunarDestiny wrote:
DON'T poke me... Do I have M-Rus then?
oh, you seem to know you were poked
did you get it? the poke doesn't give you M-rus and I didn't get a PM saying you have M-rus so I think you're clear
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On November 04 2010 08:17 CubEdIn wrote:
*Evil Grin*
I obviously pissed off the wrong people. Also, it seems that there were only 2 kills. This means that 666 was saved. Good job there.
What I suggest: Double lynch today. Take care of the lurkers.
I don't think we should use double lynch on lurkers, I think we should vote for it though.
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I'll come out with my death post now, no reason to hide it. This is what I PM'd bumatlarge.
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I hate to say I told you so town, but I told you so.
Now that I'm dead, lynch either Pandain, Coagulation, or InfiniteStory. Pandain and InfiniteStory have been parroting the few arguments made by Divinek, the confirmed mafia. It is likely one of them was being instructed what to say/what agenda to push behind the scenes. It is highly unlikely the 3 players aggressively pushing suspicion on a townie mayor and using the exact arguments as a dead mafia are town.
The one I least likely suspect is Coagulation. Coagulation is a terrible player and is easily incensed. As soon as he has a silly idea in his head he pushes it aggressively whether he understands what is going on or not. He also has a personal grudge agaisnt me for my inflammatory play against him in the previous mafia game. Pandain is also not very good and can be VERY easily manipulated by a smart mafia. InfiniteStory is playing very different than he did when he was pro-town in the last mafia game, in which he was very inactive and never really explained/made his arguments well. Something about the way he is playin gin this game makes me think he is getting his arguments/orders from elsewhere.
Ace is another suspect. Ace says in his scum manifesto that when he is scum he will push the easiest target. Aeres was an easy target not only because of LAL but because his plan could be easily misconstrued (as it was by me) as being scummy. Ace hasn't really applied pressure to any strong/active players in this game.
Youngminii is obviously suspicious, but something about his tenacity almost makes me think he isn't mafia. It's all WIFOM but he's a great target for a DT check at the least. Keep an eye on him, he can be dangerous behind the scenes IMO.
Meapakk_Ziph and Deconduo are my top 2 suspects that aren't particularly active. Also look at inactives that were part of the Aeres bandwagon, 1 or 2 of them are probably mafia. Maybe even more.
Also I advice town to carefully read Divinek's posts and posts regarding Divinek. It can be assumed that players who called out Divinek on inactivity are probably innocent (like Veldril in particular) and that they should be trusted. There is no reason for a mafia to call out an inactive mafia, if they want to put pressure on inactives they'll simply talk about other inactives. Keep note of that when you are trying to determine who is likely pro-town. There are a lot of search results for "Divinek" but look in particular for any soft/indirect defenses of Divinek and take them to heart. "
The second person in bumatlarge's PM circle was Ace
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I also received this PM from bumatlarge
[quote]This is the last PM I sent Ace, I have told him that you do have suspicions on him. If I die, and you do not, post it please! Dont say anything though, I want to see if i die. He asked why I am skeptical of him.
"I don't know you've been... complacent this game. Id expect for you to be a little more judgmental about what people are doing. It makes me cautious. Not that you haven't been very helpful as town, it just seems like you are satisfied with where the game is going. Do you think town is going to win this game? I mean so far the only scum kills are modkills. It seems like you would be pressuring everyone, especially me with, for all i know, the only PM contact you have. I'm not normally a confrontation guy, but I will speak my opinions. But I try to lean more on facts then my gut. If you are mafia, kill me fast "[/qupte]
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On November 04 2010 08:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I also received this PM from bumatlarge Show nested quote +This is the last PM I sent Ace, I have told him that you do have suspicions on him. If I die, and you do not, post it please! Dont say anything though, I want to see if i die. He asked why I am skeptical of him.
"I don't know you've been... complacent this game. Id expect for you to be a little more judgmental about what people are doing. It makes me cautious. Not that you haven't been very helpful as town, it just seems like you are satisfied with where the game is going. Do you think town is going to win this game? I mean so far the only scum kills are modkills. It seems like you would be pressuring everyone, especially me with, for all i know, the only PM contact you have. I'm not normally a confrontation guy, but I will speak my opinions. But I try to lean more on facts then my gut. If you are mafia, kill me fast "
EBWODP
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On November 04 2010 08:21 CubEdIn wrote:
Why is there no news about the infection? Were people cured?
Artanis?
it's still 3 people
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Glasse did not write the part about the blue pill?
CubEdIn did you lie about the blue pill? Be honest dude.
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Yes, I would assume so. Bumatlarge did tell him I was suspicious of him though as you see and he probably knew I was part of the circle before i told everyone
bum told me to post that if he dies
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LunarDestiny implied I poked him before I told everyone I poked him
he still needs to confirm it but I'm pretty sure it went through this time.
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btw if detectives have found a significant mafia persona (an active mafia poster) now is the time to come out and say who it is, this could lead to getting 2 mafia lynches tomorrow with a double lynch
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On November 04 2010 08:38 Ace wrote:Yea Dr.H, bum told me he added you to the circle a while ago. I pretty much figured bum was fearing for his life. I actually just woke up and was PMing with bum back and forth because neither of us had caught up on the thread. This is our entire PM exchange: Show nested quote +
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
Im dead now sorry lol good luck! didnt check thread...
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Original Message From Ace:
I've been complacent plenty of times as town. Gotta remember I was pretty active for the last lynch too. No idea how much more active I need to be at the time.
Why would I pressure you in PM though? Explain.
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
I don't know you've been... complacent this game. Id expect for you to be a little more judgmental about what people are doing. It makes me cautious. Not that you haven't been very helpful as town, it just seems like you are satisfied with where the game is going. Do you think town is going to win this game? I mean so far the only scum kills are modkills. It seems like you would be pressuring everyone, especially me with, for all i know, the only PM contact you have. I'm not normally a confrontation guy, but I will speak my opinions. But I try to lean more on facts then my gut. If you are mafia, kill me fast
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Original Message From Ace:
why would I think that? I'm a simple man
oh well about Dr.H, doesn't really effect me about what he thinks about me.
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
Just warning you ahead of time, Dr. H sent me a death post. If he dies, Im posting it regardless, but he does have a paragraph on you, not really saying you are mafia, but investing alot of wariness on how you play and what has happened. It kinda had an effect on how I'm viewing you, but Im just keeping an open mind hope you dont think i dont like you or something
as for Dr. H, his death will be enlightening if it happens, and I dont have many doubts about him considering how much hes invested in to just proving himself as town. This death post is nothing special.
Would be funky if he had some mafia death editing thing where he could pick what he pops up as, but that would be insane.
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Original Message From Ace:
Nothing at the moment. I'm not surprised he's suspicious of me - everyone always is.
I don't know how he arrived at the conclusion youngminii is a possible traitor though.
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
well dr. h is the person I choose. I was wary of picking fishball because he seemed a likely virus target. Dr. H claims immunity.
He has minor suspicions of you. But more so about Pandain, and then he thinks youngmini is a traitor?
Well anything you want me to tell him? I dont think he knows you were the first pick.
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Original Message From Ace:
lol. Depending on who dies tonight, I think he might be the scummiest player in the game. I remember he said he could confirm himself, just like Dr.H did and so far he has never made mention of that fact again.
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
hope he gets a vig to the face. Otherwise he just a player causing arguments that lead no where and distract town from the vibrant display of information we have. Aeres first though.
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Original Message From Ace:
What do you think of Pandain?
Show nested quote +
This whole aeres thing seems pretty straight forward. But I also genuinely feel he might just be blissfully unaware of what he was doing at the time. What would it profit him as a red to claim BG after he thought someone did. Then he leaves for the night... and then everyone believes hes BG wen DC is still alive? It seems very shallow, but I would have no problem lynching him because of this. He doesnt seem all that intelligent after this.
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Original Message From Ace:
where are you!
Well one bodyguard name wouldn't hurt right? lol
Yeah but if i visit him the same day he gets poisoned, i catch the m-rus, and so does the medic if they arent ADD like orgo or something.
Im all aboard the voting block, but I want to see the results of the mayor lynch+night kills before I speculate too much.
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Original Message From Ace:
Meh, don't ask him for the name of a bodyguard. Imagine you're in his shoes, get a PM from some guy asking for Bodyguard info. You'd think he was Scum
I think I'd rather mention Fishball should get medic protection over plague protection. Since he has the ability to find potential Scum in his circle I'd rather keep him alive. Also since you're a Mason we should try and vote together to form a powerful voting block.
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
I trust him a lot more then i did since orgo died (lol?) so I'm willing to make those ties, but im reluctant because he seems like a likely candidate for the M-rus. Dr.H seems like a fabulous person to pm just from him being immune. Then maybe if i can persuade him to give me the name of a bodyguard, that would be fantastic, unless hes mafia. Otherwise a BG would be someone I could relay all the info to so if I die, Dr. H and the BG can confirm that this guy is 100% legit. The only thing is how Im going to get information with this role... I guess I'll go with fishball first since plague docs dont have to target the mayor. Do you mind if you hint that they should vaccinate fishball, since it would sound pretty obvious coming from me. I can hopefully get something from fishball, as he already stated he has a method to check people in his circle. Medic protection would be awesome on him as well
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Original Message From Ace:
I think we're better off trying to do things quietly in the background. What do you think about using your ability to talk with Fishball for the next Day? Having him + his circle could be great. How much do you trust him though?
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
Yeah he's not exactly a prime target if he doesn't get mayor.
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Original Message From Ace:
Meh, I'm still not buying it 100%. I guess I'm just uneasy as to why he's so desperate. If his ability is to coordinate plague doctors then how is that the super power role that he led me to believe? :/
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
My bad he he roleclaimed some plague poker or something. He's got something with not being able to be poisoned, and being able to confirm himself if everything was sunshine and daisies in mafia. I still prefer myself as mayor, but he seems to be intent, and nothing screams scum from what I've read.
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Original Message From Ace:
He claimed it? I've only skimmed the thread so I may have missed it. Regardless he's getting extremely desperate for Mayor position based on promises. I'm not going for it. He's already lashed out at so many people I think if he even got Mayor he'd have no support.
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
Opinions on Dr.H? Claiming Plague doctor I guess, and when he cures or makes you immune, you get a PM saying he did? A viable person to get bodyguards, and Im guessing Plague docs cant get poisoned, but mayor can. If he can confirm this to me, and mafia doesnt have this sort of doctor, I can make a circle for him. And I think people are merging role and alignment cops together, which seems slightly naive considering everyone has a special role.
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Original Message From Ace:
why did you drop out of the Mayor race? o.0
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
Any plans for the first lynch? I'll vocalize it for you, and i dont care who.
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Original Message From Ace:
lol umm ok we'll see ^_^
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
Sounds good, VOTE FOR ME THOUGH OK?
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Original Message From Ace:
Nah I'm not going to reveal my role just yet. Hell you could be a Scum Mason for all I know. Besides it's just starting and I'd rather read the thread and jot down notes for now anyway.
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
Exactly, and i can pick one of my bodyguards eventually and put some information with him just in case. I'm not going to disclose who I choose, but if im mayor i can tell them what I can do safely. Is your role something you'd like to share, or would you rather keep it quiet? I'd understand considering it's insane mafia, and artanis is likely to put some misleading scum roles like 'can PM people' or something.
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Original Message From Ace:
oh thats even better than I thought. So you can actually end up talking to 2 or 3 people in the same night? You can almost be like a behind the scenes Mayor.
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
I knew you would! And I dont switch, I get to PM you the rest of the game, and keep adding to the list.
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Original Message From Ace:
So you're basically a mason that gets to switch targets. And you know how I feel about Masons - they are awesome ^_^.
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Original Message From bumatlarge:
Woooo PM rights. Im a stalker townie, beginning of every day i can get pm rights with some person, and keep them forever. Nifty. I think that would be pretty decent for a mayor. And I think I can kinda prove my innocence with this? Provided mafia does not have a role meant to copy this one.
Thoughts?
That's the PMs from the game between me and bumatlarge. Take it how you will as I doubt this makes me suspicious. [/QUOTE]
this does a lot to ease my mind about you, thanks for posting this.
I'll be voting for Pandain.
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On November 04 2010 08:42 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 08:41 Hyperbola wrote:On November 04 2010 08:24 CubEdIn wrote:
Well if you want my opinion about the blue pill thing (let's assume I'm not lying), it's either:
1. A note from the admin. But it would be pointless, because I didn't take the blue pill.
2. A mafia being able to influence the Radio as well. It would make sense, half Glasse, half Mafia.
I don't think this is the case. Otherwise Glasse would have said something. Anyone else thinks it's kinda weird that DCLXVI would have a "leave town role" like Aeres and potentially youngminii? Either that or Node is BSing us. Glasse may not know that the other half is Mafia. And I doubt that the mods are putting things there because the original post says "there will be no clues.". So yeah.
no clues pointing toward profiles
there will be information about roles/night actions however. this was confirmed by lsb earlier
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