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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 02:58 GMT
#2359
On November 03 2010 11:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Once this game is over I'm gonna find someone to teach me how to do analysis posts because I don't know how to quote everything I want to but I said I'd take a closer look at bumatlarge and I feel like I found some good stuff.
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Ive seen divine around that fucking lurker, feel free to bandwagon him.

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Divine voted for me as mayor

This is before and after the night post.
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Here are some theories also. Rolebloker targetted Dr.H we assume, right? Dr.H is immune to M-rus. Mafia has a now dead PD. I think mafia is very conservative in their actions for fear of the virus. Which makes me think that town is likely to have a virus spreading role if they found some unprecedented infected.

I suggest a medic considers dr. h as a target, since he is immune and becoming a clearer townie day by day.

Maybe he hasn't been paying attention but Doc is definetly not a clearer townie

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And would it be selfish or scummy to ask for that vaccine if it hasnt already been dished out?

Role Fishing maybe?

He makes a list of players and their actions but it's not really anything new, it feels like he's scum trying to act like town.

He posts a lot of small, rather irelevent posts that make him look active but are actually pretty substanceless.


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Investigate me all the way, but i suggest if we have a PD to make sure i dont start spreading AIDS everywhere.

My power lets me have a permanent mason relationship with someone the rest of the game. They dont know who else I add each day, and they cannot PM anyone but me. So if im red, i can distort everything to hell. But if I start spreading misinformation, I'd like to think that the people I choose would be smart enough to catch it. And even if M-rus works that it immediately contracts to the person who visits, and then contracts to the person who visits them, I cannot contract it, because I can do it at the start of each day, so people who protect and investigate me are under no danger unless I am plagued. If I am immune, I cannot contract it when I add people, so I feel like a worthy candidate of having a PD vaccinate me.

Is this his power? Why haven't we heard more about it? It's been long enough for him to use it.

He makes a couple apologies for being inactive

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I think it's safe to say you are claiming plague doctor, and the person you protect gets notified that you did this? That could be convenient. I do find it possible that mafia could have there own plague doctor, but Im not here to speculate that. If you use your power on me, and I can add you, we can start a circle. To verify it, you would give me one bodyguard who I would relay all of the information I learn. A medic can protect me if they wish, without fearing M-rus. If there is another plague doctor besides Dr.H (if that is what you are) Id suggst picking fishball, who has stated he has means to a circle and a role. That way another medic can choose between myself and fishball to protect. Whats really important is that the medics are safe in this from the M-rus, and if fishball or I die from a lucky shot by mafia, then oh well, fishball or myself die.

Is this plausible Dr. H? If so, then you have my vote.

Here's his reason for voting for our dear mayor.
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I did not withdraw my candidacy, I merely stated that fishball's plan was similar to mine, and if alot of the town thought him the better candidate I would not have a problem, but after reading into it and stating my opinions, I still want to be mayor, because

1) I know Im town, and will work in every way possible to make everything clear to everyone on what is happening.
2) I can make bodyguards in my circle! 100% confirmed townies, so if im poisoned or lynched, I can pass on all my info to them. How you will verify them though, might be a tad confusing. I hope to figure that out, and Im open to ideas.
3) I WONT FUCK IT UP. (Fairly sure fishball wont either if he isnt red)

Again, Im fairly certain it should be between fishball and I, because we can make circles happen, and he has stated that he has the power to flesh out the weeds of his. I'd like for him to address connecting circles through me, that would be cool. I need to catch up now, I was working.

Also, if a person is contaminated with M-rus in the night, and they are visited that same night, do the visitors contract it?
This is very important, because if medics protect him, we need to know how the M-rus functions.

Someone help me out, what does he mean by this post? He can make body guards?

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I am not in Fishball's circle. I have an ability to form a town circle of my choosing. I already choose my first person.

I don't have any other role, but I can easily access any circle already made if they are pro town. I don't have anything to hide now, and I guarantee everything I do will have crystal clear reasons as to why. The only thing I will not tell you is who. I believe my method will work slower then fishball, but it will be more effective later on.

It's not all that dangerous if I am not mayor, but it can be really strong if I am mayor. I dont think anyone aside from fishball has hinted that they can do this. It should be between me and him.

Here's where he first talks about his role, a role easily faked by scum (like fishballs but fishball was proved innocent and I think that makes it even more likely the bum is lying).
SHIT I have to go but I'm gonna post this anyway... I'll be back.

bumatlarge isn't scum
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 03:11 GMT
#2361
oh, sure. He inducted me into his PM circle.

He already roleclaimed so I guess he shouldn't mind me claiming it and I doubt it's gonna make me any more of a target than I already am.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 03:49 GMT
#2369
Because the plague doctor immunizes the person he visits if they don't have M-Rus?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 03:55 GMT
#2372
Yeah my role is just called "Sticky"
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 03:58 GMT
#2375
I recieve a PM saying they have murrayitis, not that it failed necessarily
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 04:39 GMT
#2386
On November 03 2010 13:21 infinitestory wrote:
umm, kitaman
there are 3/29 players with murrayitis
DrH will only find a murrayitis carrier tonight with some excellent luck

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On November 03 2010 13:09 bumatlarge wrote:
On November 03 2010 11:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Once this game is over I'm gonna find someone to teach me how to do analysis posts because I don't know how to quote everything I want to but I said I'd take a closer look at bumatlarge and I feel like I found some good stuff.
Ive seen divine around that fucking lurker, feel free to bandwagon him.

Divine voted for me as mayor

This is before and after the night post.
I know divine outside of TL mafia. I don't think he remembered that he was playing.
Here are some theories also. Rolebloker targetted Dr.H we assume, right? Dr.H is immune to M-rus. Mafia has a now dead PD. I think mafia is very conservative in their actions for fear of the virus. Which makes me think that town is likely to have a virus spreading role if they found some unprecedented infected.

I suggest a medic considers dr. h as a target, since he is immune and becoming a clearer townie day by day.

Maybe he hasn't been paying attention but Doc is definetly not a clearer townie
Maybe you haven't been paying attention, so explain to me why DocH isn't a clearer townie day by day not confirmed. He is by no means confirmed.

And would it be selfish or scummy to ask for that vaccine if it hasnt already been dished out?

Role Fishing maybe?
rofl for a plague doctor to use his power on me? Are you even playing this game or reading how things happen in this game
He makes a list of players and their actions but it's not really anything new, it feels like he's scum trying to act like town.

He posts a lot of small, rather irelevent posts that make him look active but are actually pretty substanceless.


Investigate me all the way, but i suggest if we have a PD to make sure i dont start spreading AIDS everywhere.

My power lets me have a permanent mason relationship with someone the rest of the game. They dont know who else I add each day, and they cannot PM anyone but me. So if im red, i can distort everything to hell. But if I start spreading misinformation, I'd like to think that the people I choose would be smart enough to catch it. And even if M-rus works that it immediately contracts to the person who visits, and then contracts to the person who visits them, I cannot contract it, because I can do it at the start of each day, so people who protect and investigate me are under no danger unless I am plagued. If I am immune, I cannot contract it when I add people, so I feel like a worthy candidate of having a PD vaccinate me.

Is this his power? Why haven't we heard more about it? It's been long enough for him to use it.
Yes, I am the one not paying attention this game.
He makes a couple apologies for being inactive


I think it's safe to say you are claiming plague doctor, and the person you protect gets notified that you did this? That could be convenient. I do find it possible that mafia could have there own plague doctor, but Im not here to speculate that. If you use your power on me, and I can add you, we can start a circle. To verify it, you would give me one bodyguard who I would relay all of the information I learn. A medic can protect me if they wish, without fearing M-rus. If there is another plague doctor besides Dr.H (if that is what you are) Id suggst picking fishball, who has stated he has means to a circle and a role. That way another medic can choose between myself and fishball to protect. Whats really important is that the medics are safe in this from the M-rus, and if fishball or I die from a lucky shot by mafia, then oh well, fishball or myself die.

Is this plausible Dr. H? If so, then you have my vote.

Here's his reason for voting for our dear mayor.
I can't even believe how much misinformation you are spreading around. Do I really need to explain this stuff? I said if he was claiming plague doctor, we could check him to see, and it would be a much more valuable mayor then the 'sticky' version.
I did not withdraw my candidacy, I merely stated that fishball's plan was similar to mine, and if alot of the town thought him the better candidate I would not have a problem, but after reading into it and stating my opinions, I still want to be mayor, because

1) I know Im town, and will work in every way possible to make everything clear to everyone on what is happening.
2) I can make bodyguards in my circle! 100% confirmed townies, so if im poisoned or lynched, I can pass on all my info to them. How you will verify them though, might be a tad confusing. I hope to figure that out, and Im open to ideas.
3) I WONT FUCK IT UP. (Fairly sure fishball wont either if he isnt red)

Again, Im fairly certain it should be between fishball and I, because we can make circles happen, and he has stated that he has the power to flesh out the weeds of his. I'd like for him to address connecting circles through me, that would be cool. I need to catch up now, I was working.

Also, if a person is contaminated with M-rus in the night, and they are visited that same night, do the visitors contract it?
This is very important, because if medics protect him, we need to know how the M-rus functions.

Someone help me out, what does he mean by this post? He can make body guards?
ROFL? I'm sorry, I think you need to read the thread again, or at least look who was running for mayor.
I am not in Fishball's circle. I have an ability to form a town circle of my choosing. I already choose my first person.

I don't have any other role, but I can easily access any circle already made if they are pro town. I don't have anything to hide now, and I guarantee everything I do will have crystal clear reasons as to why. The only thing I will not tell you is who. I believe my method will work slower then fishball, but it will be more effective later on.

It's not all that dangerous if I am not mayor, but it can be really strong if I am mayor. I dont think anyone aside from fishball has hinted that they can do this. It should be between me and him.

Here's where he first talks about his role, a role easily faked by scum (like fishballs but fishball was proved innocent and I think that makes it even more likely the bum is lying).
SHIT I have to go but I'm gonna post this anyway... I'll be back.


It seems you are a bit confused as to the reasons why I would be scummy at all. And Dr. H is in my circle. So is one other that I wont disclose. Everything you have said derives from your inconsistent understanding of what is happening. Someone else post a better analysis if you are really going to be suspicious of me, which I find on the other hand to be completely reasonable since I am the only candidate with one mafia to have voted for me and no confirmed townies.

And if anyone wants to link Dr. H and I, go ahead.


On the contrary, I want you to explain to me why DrH is becoming a clearer townie day by day in spite of the fact that the last 50 pages or so have been a clusterfuck involving Pandain, Coagulation, and myself poking holes in DrH's story the whole way through, and that DrH has not confirmed his role and was a major advocate for lynching Aeres (who as you know was blue).


i feel pretty confident saying none of you poked holes in anything
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 05:54 GMT
#2390
During the night I can poke someone. If I poke them they receive a PM saying something to the effect of "You have been poked by DoctorHelvetica"

If the poke is successful, then I know they don't have murrayitis. However, Artanis will not tell me whether my poke was successful or not, so the other person can lie and say I did not poke them.

If they have murrayitis, the poke will not succeed, but Artanis will tell me they have Murrayitis. If the poke doesn't succeed AND I don't get a PM from Artanis saying they have M-Rus then it is likely I was roleblocked, they lied, or that they were commuted or something to that effect.

I am also immune to M-rus.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 06:42 GMT
#2396
Could you point out exactly what posts you're talking about? I'm not sure exactly what you mean
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 07:00 GMT
#2398
On November 03 2010 15:59 Coagulation wrote:
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On November 03 2010 15:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Yeah, I dunno there is a lot to think about. I was mainly focusing on the idea that the target of the poke could of been bus'd instead of role blocked, or it could of just went through. There is just so many trivial things in this game its hard to rule anything out.

I swear I really enjoy this set up I just really wish that I was here since the beginning. With all the work I have to do it makes it really hard to try to keep up with the thread which gets another 20 pages every time I refresh. I also can't skim read because there is so much important stuff that happened that I am so far behind.

Its very demotivating :/ but I will try anyway. I just read the post by DrH recently where he talks about getting role blocked and I just wanted to bring up some obvious possibilities that he could of easily been bus'd because he made a pretty large jump on page 75ish which from a recent post (maybe 5 pages ago?) he apparently still stuck with.

I haven't really formed much of an opinion on anyone, but for such a good player it seems like a glaring oversight. It really sucks I have to sleep soon though, I actually fine this game to be the most interesting one I have played in in a long time. Reminds me of the olden days before the massive amount of F11 lamer set-ups.



Not being able to PM is fucking shit and makes the game boring/frustrating as hell.


yeah i was mad about it but i can pm
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 13:08 GMT
#2411
On November 03 2010 22:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On November 03 2010 21:52 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On November 03 2010 20:42 CubEdIn wrote:
On November 03 2010 19:14 Ace wrote:
Not being able to PM is standard Mafia. PMing is weak and kills the game. Learn how to scumhunt, thx.


Right, you seem to be doing a might good job.

Please point us to the next innocent bystander that looks odd to you.


you're barking up the wrong tree... would advise to back off and never do it again...


Well this seems rather foreboding now doesn't it?

every game where someone criticizes aces ability to play turns into the "ace telling everyone how bad they are and why he is awesome" show

thats why this is a bad idea and an argument like this will only distract the town and cause a whole bunch of personal bullshit/flaming/etc.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 13:18 GMT
#2415
why would you be scared of him if you were a town player
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 14:08 GMT
#2431
On November 03 2010 22:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On November 03 2010 22:27 Ace wrote:
yo Cubicle I got a question.

Aeres claims bodyguard and Cruiseship Captain.

How can he draw a scum hit if he won't even be there?

rofl


Well a scum hit ordered on someone who's not there would result in a wasted Mafia KP, wouldn't it?

which is why his plan makes no sense

if he claims "im the bodyguard and mafia can't hurt me because i leave at night" there is 0 incentive for mafia to hit him over 666 who he must have though twas the real bodyguard

what his fake roleclaim was supposed to do i still dont really know
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 14:10 GMT
#2432
On November 03 2010 22:58 deconduo wrote:
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On November 03 2010 22:35 Veldril wrote:
On November 03 2010 22:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 03 2010 22:27 Ace wrote:
yo Cubicle I got a question.

Aeres claims bodyguard and Cruiseship Captain.

How can he draw a scum hit if he won't even be there?

rofl


Well a scum hit ordered on someone who's not there would result in a wasted Mafia KP, wouldn't it?

He means; Aeres claimed BG and Cruiseship Captain, therefore Mafia knows that he can evade a hit, therefore Mafia target someone else.


That was the whole point of Aeres claim. Maf can't kill him, therefore maf can't kill mayor. It was an awesome claim, and people are stupid.


so mafia don't hit him and just move on to different targets? like the real bodyguard? how is that awesome exactly

if he's trying to discourage them from shooting me, it doesn't work when he admits he's not the real bodyguard as soon as the bodyguard dies
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 14:19 GMT
#2434
I see. It seems like a bit much for a one night save but that make a little bit more sense.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 18:45 GMT
#2443
I have entrusted Bumatlarge with a message in case I die in the night. If he doesn't post it, he should be held accountable and possibly lynched.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 18:45 GMT
#2444
On November 04 2010 03:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I have entrusted Bumatlarge with a message in case I die in the night. If he doesn't post it, he should be held accountable and possibly lynched.

If I die that is.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 18:48 GMT
#2447
On November 04 2010 03:47 aidnai wrote:
what if he modifies the message 0.o?

i suppose he could.

i trust bum though, I really doubt he is mafia
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 19:06 GMT
#2450
I don't know how I feel about L. I don't like the way he is playing this game and I disagree with a lot of what he says but that doesn't make him scummy.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 19:11 GMT
#2453
On November 04 2010 04:09 CubEdIn wrote:
...well as I said, 40%. Meaning that I would hesitate to even vote for him, unless some other "clues" pop up.

But it's still more than I feel about everyone else in this game.

Also, shouldn't we keep an eye on the lurkers here. I didn't really count but I'm preeetty sure that there are at least 5-10 people who are voting but not really bothering to post much. You said I was inactive in Haunted Mafia, but these guys are way less active than I was and nobody's forcing them to take a stand.


The problem is determining which inactives are mafia and which are just inactives :/

More often than not you miss with it.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 19:20 GMT
#2461
On November 04 2010 04:18 NB wrote:
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On November 04 2010 03:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I have entrusted Bumatlarge with a message in case I die in the night. If he doesn't post it, he should be held accountable and possibly lynched.

without pm, how you entrusted him a message exactly?

also i dont understand why both Dr.H and DC are so willing to die tonight? you guys know somebody who much more worthy to save?

I can PM, I pm'd my conditional death post to bumatlarge like 2 minutes ago

please keep up with the thread
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