On October 31 2010 09:10 Kenpachi wrote: LOL THE BOOGER. well, would it be that someone has a nosepicking related profile? is he even mafia?
also, i am not the elder guys. Is it even confirmed if HE is the mafia either? ~_~
There are no clues in this game, so profiles are irrelevant to the outcome. Either someone has a role involving nosepicking, or Artanis has a weird sense of humor.
Actually, I think Artanis has a weird sense of humor anyway. I mean, look at the Doc's role. >_>
On October 31 2010 09:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Pandain can you confirm your role if you are not elected and if it is a role that confirms itself to a single other player I would request you confirm it to me. I won't roleclaim for you but I'll confirm your innocence to the town.
I'm confused by what you mean. Yes, my role will work just as well without being elected, albeit this means I would request medics to protect me since I will not have bodyguards. The way I can confirm my role would actually sort of reveal my role. I would welcome DT's to check me, and then they can confirm who I am to the circle.
I see. I was thinking your idea was something like mine which confirms itself in private to another player.
I'm satisfied with that and your posting is making me feel more confident in you as a protown player.
On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.
SiNiquity is my first choice at the moment. Similar post to youngminii but I feel more confident that his actual vote was scummy than youngs.
I feel that Pandain or BumAtLarge have the highest chances of being scum mayor so I'm looking at their supporters and posting atm.
I don't really care at this point, so go ahead. I got some rehashed weak role that has no interesting mechanics what-so-ever anyway. I'm ultimately green (as opposed to blue) -_-
You should start questioning your confidence more though if you're more confident I'm scum (esp after this stupid orgo shit which, btw, I think was mod-killed for 'childish' reasons, but w/e). I don't care to get involved in day 1 shenanigans, I never do, primarily because the thread moves far too fast for me to keep up with the little amount of time I devote to these games. As for my vote, I moved it from Fish to you because I thought you had a powerful role (certainly more powerful than the allsuive "my role is 'critical'" shit Fish was selling) only to find out I just bought a shamwow
I hate that you must martyred yourself. I don't know if this is a mafia player to get me to switch my kill or if you really just don't give a shit about this game. If the latter is the case then I should probably lynch YM instead.
On October 31 2010 09:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm a Nurse not a doctor anyway I don't care what people call me ;o
I submitted: 1.SiNiquity 2.youngminii 3.Divinek
Why divinek?
I'm feeling that pandain is protown the more he's posting. Divinek was on the bumatlarge votee least (who is in my mind the most suspicious mayoral candidate) and I don't like his posts. He's hardly posted in the thread.
On October 29 2010 15:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: omg guys what if fishball bumatlarge are both scum and bumatlarge backed out so that when fishball flips scum he'll look town
are we going to turn this whole thread into wifom
I was half joking. This is his first real post with no real impact.
On October 30 2010 09:45 Infundibulum wrote: Also anybody running on the platform of "I will roleclaim if I am Mayor" needs to reconsider their platform in light of the fact that the mayor can be rolechecked.
Additionally, Artanis alluded to the possible existence of elements that can tamper with role check results - e.g. a framer or insane DT - meaning that a rolecheck on the mayor night 1 is possibly useless, as any rolecheck-tampering would almost certainly be directed the mayors' way.
Finally, remember confirming a players role ability != confirming a players alignment.
i think it's beyond silly to say they can be assuredly confirmed in any way. There is got to be a high chance of having some kind of framer role, and what better choice than a mayor that's trying to say hey guyz i can be verified
Strange that you voted for bumatlarge whose role confirmation is highly important in this game. If he can indeed give players the power to PM him, he is very powerful indeed.
On October 30 2010 09:45 Infundibulum wrote: Also anybody running on the platform of "I will roleclaim if I am Mayor" needs to reconsider their platform in light of the fact that the mayor can be rolechecked.
Additionally, Artanis alluded to the possible existence of elements that can tamper with role check results - e.g. a framer or insane DT - meaning that a rolecheck on the mayor night 1 is possibly useless, as any rolecheck-tampering would almost certainly be directed the mayors' way.
Finally, remember confirming a players role ability != confirming a players alignment.
I can prove my role is what I say it is without having to be rolechecked and if anyone tries to fake a rolecheck on me they'll be incriminated when I prove them otherwise.
I can't fathom any way you can do this that doesn't involve the possibility of you just getting your mafia buddies to help you do whatever it is you say you can do
I dont like the idea of just picking someone for what they say they are able to be or capable of. I'm more inclined to go with someone who has shown they can actually be useful instead of spewing confirmability.
Whatever it is you say you can do to confirm yourself i have no doubt the host put in something to make it possible to compromise the integrity of your claim. It's silly that you could try to be concrete on something so unknown to anyone.
I would rather have someone leading with clearly good intentions and capable of doing something instead of saying well guys i can be confirmed, cause once someone gets elected the spot lights so heavy it's ridiculous anyway
I can understand this post as it came before I went into more detail about my role.
This kind of play seems consistent with Divineks scum play and he is in third place so it's unlikely he'll be grabbed. I'd like to see him post more.
I'm considering changing that to deconduo who has barely posted here at all.
Also I'd like the town to consider the possibililty that there is no scum mayor candidate (at least a main one) and mafia are going to use that to push suspicion onto each town mayor, knowing they have what is probably a powerful role.
On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.
SiNiquity is my first choice at the moment. Similar post to youngminii but I feel more confident that his actual vote was scummy than youngs.
I feel that Pandain or BumAtLarge have the highest chances of being scum mayor so I'm looking at their supporters and posting atm.
I don't really care at this point, so go ahead. I got some rehashed weak role that has no interesting mechanics what-so-ever anyway. I'm ultimately green (as opposed to blue) -_-
You should start questioning your confidence more though if you're more confident I'm scum (esp after this stupid orgo shit which, btw, I think was mod-killed for 'childish' reasons, but w/e). I don't care to get involved in day 1 shenanigans, I never do, primarily because the thread moves far too fast for me to keep up with the little amount of time I devote to these games. As for my vote, I moved it from Fish to you because I thought you had a powerful role (certainly more powerful than the allsuive "my role is 'critical'" shit Fish was selling) only to find out I just bought a shamwow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwRISkyV_B8
I hate that you must martyred yourself. I don't know if this is a mafia player to get me to switch my kill or if you really just don't give a shit about this game. If the latter is the case then I should probably lynch YM instead.
Not only that, but it frustrates me when people want to play, and then get mad they didn't get a fun role, and screw the rest of the players over.
Exactly what I was thinking, jcarlsoniv. I mean, my role isn't exactly the sort of "OMG IMBA DEATH RAY" the Doc and Fishball have... in fact, it's really a glorified standard blue role, but I already have a few ideas on how to use it.
Innovation, SinNiquity. You gotta make your role work for you.
DrH doesn't have an imba death ray. His role, as claimed, is effectively a heavily nerfed plague doctor.
On October 31 2010 09:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Also I'd like the town to consider the possibililty that there is no scum mayor candidate (at least a main one) and mafia are going to use that to push suspicion onto each town mayor, knowing they have what is probably a powerful role.
This statement sounds to me like you could be trying to draw attention away from the possibility that there is/are mafia amongst the mayor candidates. The possibility of there being a mafia mayor candidate is the primary reason we brought up the very excellent plan of investigating the mayor candidates first. If you ask me, all four major candidates (bum, fish, you, panda) have said nothing to swing me one way or the other on townieness decisively.
I'm not saying it's likely that there is no mafia amongst the mayor, I'm merely stating it as a possibility. Seeing as you brought up just about every hypothetical situation regarding the uses of my role and the possible loopholes I'm sure you have no issue with this.
I could just as well say "oh sounds to me like you're trying to discount the possibility that there is a possibility of there being no mafia mayors" and so on
It should be noted mayor is very underpowered in this game compared to normal games.
On October 31 2010 10:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote: So SiNiquity martyred himself I guess. I wish we would have hit a mafia with the lynch but at least 1 got modkilled, a good thing for us.
YoungMinii was my first choice and he survived the lynch. This is very important to note.
On October 31 2010 14:00 Hyperbola wrote: I don't seem to understand Siniquity's death. Was he subbed for youngminii or did youngminii leave town for a night?
I'm not sure. Artanis brought up the possibility that there are roles in this game that can somehow avoid a lynch. YoungMinii was my first choice. Either he has a role that can avoid a lynch or someone else has a role that can prevent a specific individual from being lynched. For whatever reason youngminii could not be lynched and SiNiquity, my second choice, was lynched instead.
I'm guessing exactly how this happened is something Artanis can't and won't tell us although it's worth asking.
That's a fantastic post kingjames. You brought up a lot of good points but I would say that number 4 is probably little more than a jab at fox news. You're canadian so perhaps you aren't aware of it but "fair and balanced" is a joke at Fox's motto since they are well known for their conservative bias.
In fact me and Artanis were joking about them and the phrase just a few days ago on MSN.
It would be nice if Artanis could confirm something.
Will there be any clues whatsoever in day posts? Anything at all in the wording of the post that could be applied to the game or is everything pretty much for flavor?
Clearing that up will prevent us from talking about it in the future if it is, indeed, irrelevant.
To clarify I notified LSB/Artanis that CubEdIn PM'd me. I will post the log of our PM's to the town so you can see that he did not give me any information that he did not also post here.
But please mentioned that I posted in the thread shortly after I found that PMs were illegal, I don't wanna get modkilled so fast.
----------------------------------------- Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: You roleclaimed to me and gave me some pretty critical information.
This is of course very helpful to us as the town, what you have told me. but I can't in good conscience not tell Artanis.
----------------------------------------- Original Message From CubEdIn: ah sorry, I just read the rule in the OP.
Worry not, I shall paste it in the thread.
----------------------------------------- Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: you know you can't pm right?
does your role allow you to pm people?
----------------------------------------- Original Message From CubEdIn: Hi guy.
Seems that you're the mayor. Gratz.
I decided to roleclaim on day1, on someone I'd trust most. Since it was too confusing, I then decided to roleclaim to the mayor, whoever it may be.
I am a doctor. Nothing more, nothing less. However, the Mafia knows this. Here is why:
I was given the choice of the red pill or the blue pill. If I took the the red pill I would become a doctor, but the mafia is told of my role. If I took the blue pill, I would become a normal townie. I am allowed to protect myself as a doctor.
So, if you were mafia, then you would already know this. If you're not, well I think I could be of help, but since Mafia knows of my role, I will try to protect myself as much as possible (denying a hit will be just as good as denying some other kill imo, unless we're sure the mafia honed in on a very important blue).
Also, I was thinking that since I'll be protecting myself during night one, I suggest you poke me with your stick to see what happens. If I get infected, I can cure myself, if not, you can tell that I'm blue, and you can tell what happens when you poke people with minimal risk.
This would also give me faith in you being what you claim you are, since the mafia vote was pretty suspicious (i'm thinking there could be more than one mafia do-gooder). But I'm not demanding that you poke me, it was just a suggestion.
I decided to roleclaim on day1, on someone I'd trust most. Since it was too confusing, I then decided to roleclaim after the mayor was picked, whoever it may be.
I am a doctor. However, the Mafia knows this. Here is why:
I was given the choice of the red pill or the blue pill. If I took the the red pill I would become a doctor, but the mafia is told of my role. If I took the blue pill, I would become a normal townie. I am allowed to protect myself as a doctor.
So, if you were mafia, then you would already know this. If you're not, well I think I could be of help, but since Mafia knows of my role, I will try to protect myself as much as possible (denying a hit will be just as good as denying some other kill imo, unless we're sure the mafia honed in on a very important blue).
Also, I was thinking that since I'll be protecting myself during night one, I suggest that Dr.H poked me with his stick to see what happens. If I got infected, I can cure myself, if not, you can tell that I'm blue, (assuming nobody is infected yet) and you can tell what happens when you poke people with minimal risk.
This would also give some faith in you being what you claim you are, since the mafia vote was pretty suspicious (i'm thinking there could be more than one mafia do-gooder). But I'm not demanding that DrH pokes me, it was just a suggestion.
On October 31 2010 16:08 CubEdIn wrote: P.S.: I have also PMed Dr.H with this, since I didn't get to read that PMs were illegal unless both players were mafia. I hope this doesn't get me deadded, it won't happen again.
EXACTLY WHEN did you PM DrH? I want to know how long he's had this information. This will help me to decide if he purposely withheld information and what his intentions were.
Also, what's the name of your Role? We need all the information that we can get.
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