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KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
November 04 2010 01:48 GMT
#2701
Since we have a claimed ADD detective, I find it HIGHLY unlikely there is ANOTHER TOWN ALIGNED RANDOM DETECTIVE.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 04 2010 01:49 GMT
#2702
Wasn't Pandain's main 600 post argument against DrH the fact that he 'lied' and he couldn't confirm himself 100% because he got roleblocked?

Now it's day 3 and Pandain can't confirm himself which is a bigger lie than DrH's? Does this not strike you as fucking stupid at all Pandain? Couldn't you have come up with a better argument/roleclaim?
lalala
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 04 2010 01:50 GMT
#2703
On November 04 2010 10:47 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 10:47 Ace wrote:
@Infinitestory: Sorry my mistake then. I just remember talking to bum via PM before updating the thread.

@Dr.H: No point in even going further with this. Let's go back to Day 1:

When Dr.H claims that he has a role that can confirm himself to be town, Pandain also does the same. Pandain also says even if he doesn't get Mayor, he'd be able to do this.

Now, it's Day 3 and Pandain doesn't reveal the result of any of this until now. When I read his posts on Day 1, it sounded like his role could be instantly confirmed pro-town and not something that would rely on random chance.

So if Pandain knows his role relied on random chance then why did he seem so sure he could confirm himself easily?


1.I said it would take a couple days
2.I said it would be indirect


If you say it would take a couple of days and be indirect:

Then how come you felt so strongly against Dr.H if you're own role wouldn't be so powerful? Those are 2 weak reasons to claim you can confirm yourself pro-town when you made it seem so good. How is that better than a Vigilante claiming he could shoot the scummiest person to confirm himself?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:50 GMT
#2704
i feel uncomfortable

something about his role feels really plausible to me, but at the same time its very easy to fake and much safer to fake than mine

i suggest we kill pandain/someone unconnected or opposed to pandain

if pandain turns up blue and the other turns up red that could be really good for us in the end.
RIP Aaliyah
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 04 2010 01:51 GMT
#2705
On November 04 2010 10:49 youngminii wrote:
Wasn't Pandain's main 600 post argument against DrH the fact that he 'lied' and he couldn't confirm himself 100% because he got roleblocked?

Now it's day 3 and Pandain can't confirm himself which is a bigger lie than DrH's? Does this not strike you as fucking stupid at all Pandain? Couldn't you have come up with a better argument/roleclaim?


First of all I still don't see how if I find mafia that doesn't confirm me. Now obviously at most I could do if mafia would be to claim a townie was mafia, and then they get lynched. But then next day, I get lynched. That is definitely not beneficial for mafia.

@KtheZ, we're actually different roles, his is in fact even better than mine :/

DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:51 GMT
#2706
On November 04 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 10:49 youngminii wrote:
Wasn't Pandain's main 600 post argument against DrH the fact that he 'lied' and he couldn't confirm himself 100% because he got roleblocked?

Now it's day 3 and Pandain can't confirm himself which is a bigger lie than DrH's? Does this not strike you as fucking stupid at all Pandain? Couldn't you have come up with a better argument/roleclaim?


First of all I still don't see how if I find mafia that doesn't confirm me. Now obviously at most I could do if mafia would be to claim a townie was mafia, and then they get lynched. But then next day, I get lynched. That is definitely not beneficial for mafia.

@KtheZ, we're actually different roles, his is in fact even better than mine :/


it is good for mafia to keep outing confirmed townies (mafia know who all the townies are) and then later bus their weakest player to "confirm" you though
RIP Aaliyah
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 04 2010 01:53 GMT
#2707
On November 04 2010 10:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i feel uncomfortable

something about his role feels really plausible to me, but at the same time its very easy to fake and much safer to fake than mine

i suggest we kill pandain/someone unconnected or opposed to pandain

if pandain turns up blue and the other turns up red that could be really good for us in the end.

No, we're killing Pandain. He's posting scummily (as usual though) and there is no reason for Artanis/LSB to make two roles that literally overlap yet have one *slightly* better than the other. If Pandain is blue then FoS infinitestory.
lalala
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 04 2010 01:53 GMT
#2708
On November 04 2010 10:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
what is your superpower and how did you use it in the first two nights


vigilante

but i have a high chance of killing myself

i havnt used it yet
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:54 GMT
#2709
On November 04 2010 10:53 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 10:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
what is your superpower and how did you use it in the first two nights


vigilante

but i have a high chance of killing myself

i havnt used it yet

LOL
RIP Aaliyah
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 04 2010 01:54 GMT
#2710
On November 04 2010 10:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i feel uncomfortable

something about his role feels really plausible to me, but at the same time its very easy to fake and much safer to fake than mine

i suggest we kill pandain/someone unconnected or opposed to pandain

if pandain turns up blue and the other turns up red that could be really good for us in the end.

I feel approximately the same way about pandain

but what we need to do right now is probably scumhunt for other targets to consider, rather than getting hung up pestering pandain, since i don't know if we're getting any more out of that.
Translator:3
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 04 2010 01:54 GMT
#2711
On November 04 2010 10:53 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 10:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
what is your superpower and how did you use it in the first two nights


vigilante

but i have a high chance of killing myself

i havnt used it yet


And how is that a SUPERPOWERFUL role? And why would you take the blue pill and be a regular townie?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 04 2010 01:55 GMT
#2712
basically i wanted to be mafia but i was too retarded to join so i pretend to be mafia on my own
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
November 04 2010 01:55 GMT
#2713
The main purpose of a DT check is to check ALIGNMENT. Other tidbits are just useful to know.
Having two ALIGNMENT DTs in a game doesnt make sense. For example, in haunted mafia(which i failed epically and will make up for), there were 2 dts for 60 people. Now, considering that we have ~ 30-40 people, I find it Extremely unlikely that town has TWO RANDOM ALIGNMENT CHECKERS. For all we know, you could be scum; you never claimed alignment (But you'll obviously claim town). And for all we know you could be lying about your role, your role actions, or anything you want.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:55 GMT
#2714
what is the role called?

RIP Aaliyah
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 04 2010 01:55 GMT
#2715
On November 04 2010 10:50 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 10:47 Pandain wrote:
On November 04 2010 10:47 Ace wrote:
@Infinitestory: Sorry my mistake then. I just remember talking to bum via PM before updating the thread.

@Dr.H: No point in even going further with this. Let's go back to Day 1:

When Dr.H claims that he has a role that can confirm himself to be town, Pandain also does the same. Pandain also says even if he doesn't get Mayor, he'd be able to do this.

Now, it's Day 3 and Pandain doesn't reveal the result of any of this until now. When I read his posts on Day 1, it sounded like his role could be instantly confirmed pro-town and not something that would rely on random chance.

So if Pandain knows his role relied on random chance then why did he seem so sure he could confirm himself easily?


1.I said it would take a couple days
2.I said it would be indirect


If you say it would take a couple of days and be indirect:

Then how come you felt so strongly against Dr.H if you're own role wouldn't be so powerful? Those are 2 weak reasons to claim you can confirm yourself pro-town when you made it seem so good. How is that better than a Vigilante claiming he could shoot the scummiest person to confirm himself?


I felt strongly against Dr. H because my role was actually working, while he had no results. He was playing incrediably scummy imo.

As for Dr. H, I still don't see how it would be beneficial AT ALL for mafia. The one thing I could see now was if I claimed mafia were confirmed, then later outed a real mafia. Then it would seem the original mafia was confirmed. Hmm....

On November 04 2010 10:53 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 10:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
what is your superpower and how did you use it in the first two nights


vigilante

but i have a high chance of killing myself

i havnt used it yet


ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

"You can be townie, or you can be a vigilante highly prone to suicide!" How is that a superpowerful role...

just stop :p
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 04 2010 01:56 GMT
#2716
if i picked townie i would not be mistaken as a red
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
November 04 2010 01:56 GMT
#2717
On November 04 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 10:49 youngminii wrote:
Wasn't Pandain's main 600 post argument against DrH the fact that he 'lied' and he couldn't confirm himself 100% because he got roleblocked?

Now it's day 3 and Pandain can't confirm himself which is a bigger lie than DrH's? Does this not strike you as fucking stupid at all Pandain? Couldn't you have come up with a better argument/roleclaim?


First of all I still don't see how if I find mafia that doesn't confirm me. Now obviously at most I could do if mafia would be to claim a townie was mafia, and then they get lynched. But then next day, I get lynched. That is definitely not beneficial for mafia.

@KtheZ, we're actually different roles, his is in fact even better than mine :/


The main purpose of a DT check is to check ALIGNMENT. Other tidbits are just useful to know.
Having two ALIGNMENT DTs in a game doesnt make sense. For example, in haunted mafia(which i failed epically and will make up for), there were 2 dts for 60 people. Now, considering that we have ~ 30-40 people, I find it Extremely unlikely that town has TWO RANDOM ALIGNMENT CHECKERS. For all we know, you could be scum; you never claimed alignment (But you'll obviously claim town). And for all we know you could be lying about your role, your role actions, or anything you want.

EBWODP
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 04 2010 01:56 GMT
#2718
On November 04 2010 10:53 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 10:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i feel uncomfortable

something about his role feels really plausible to me, but at the same time its very easy to fake and much safer to fake than mine

i suggest we kill pandain/someone unconnected or opposed to pandain

if pandain turns up blue and the other turns up red that could be really good for us in the end.

No, we're killing Pandain. He's posting scummily (as usual though) and there is no reason for Artanis/LSB to make two roles that literally overlap yet have one *slightly* better than the other. If Pandain is blue then FoS infinitestory.

Wait, what the fuck? Doctor & Plague Doctor literally overlap yet PD is *slightly* better >___>
Translator:3
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 04 2010 01:57 GMT
#2719
This is true...
And you role check while Pandain alignment checks.

Either way, I'm banking on Pandain having fakeclaimed.
lalala
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 04 2010 01:57 GMT
#2720
On November 04 2010 10:55 KtheZ wrote:
The main purpose of a DT check is to check ALIGNMENT. Other tidbits are just useful to know.
Having two ALIGNMENT DTs in a game doesnt make sense. For example, in haunted mafia(which i failed epically and will make up for), there were 2 dts for 60 people. Now, considering that we have ~ 30-40 people, I find it Extremely unlikely that town has TWO RANDOM ALIGNMENT CHECKERS. For all we know, you could be scum; you never claimed alignment (But you'll obviously claim town). And for all we know you could be lying about your role, your role actions, or anything you want.


I could be lying about anything. Same can be said for everyone. Note I don't find out his role, which is why I'm sort of pissed off at Artanis for giving me this role.
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