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1. I am the best player in this game, and need to start a town circle, get the fuck over it
Wrong, wrong. You are not the best, any town circle will be for certain inflitrated(and you will give bad advice.)
2. The people who view me as a village idiot are usually terrible players
Oh yeah, I forgot Ace, Flamewheel, BC were all noobs. I'll be sure to tell them that next time.
3. I am the one who made the connection. I believe they're both mafia. Two of my vote switches have been due to anger issues. You may be a better voter than me, but my history as town is a flip-floppy voter. THAT IS MY TOWN META. As mafia, I sit on my vote all fucking cycle. I guess you're too bad to realize that, though. LSB and Deconduo seem to think this play you have right now is your town play, and I fucking disagree. You are scum.
So now you admit your voting due to anger issues, admit im a better voter, and claim wishy washy ness proves your town? IT JUST PROVES YOUR BAD.
Note that "how" your playing doesn't even prove anything, it can just suggest. And frankly, you've even admitted how you spam as mafia. And you spam as town, as proved in many games.
And nice proof of me being scum, that's one aristotle would love. "YOU ARE PLAYING LIKE SOMETHING WHICH I GIVE NO DETAIL OF, THEREFORE YOU ARE SCUM!"
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On October 13 2010 12:19 Coagulation wrote:
so how long till the votes are tallied and we lynch??
40 minutes
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Wow, succesful day 1 lynch.
I guess it has to happen one day. Next on the agenda: Vendril?
I'll look through his posts tonight, will do analysis.
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On October 13 2010 13:09 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 06:07 Pandain wrote:
Note: CLAIM TO ME VIA PM, not in thread. That would be stupid :p
yum yum for taken out of context yum yum
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also bm told me via pm that he felt masq was more noob than scum.
moving on...
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Original Message From Bill Murray:
i am voting him because masq is a newbie who is worthless, while vendril made a terrible pm someone shared with me which pretty much means he's mafia from my perspective
So, what is this pm, and whos it from?
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On October 13 2010 13:16 NB wrote:
so i believe what we have for day2 is Bill vs Panda and lynch or not lynching Veld?
Just because two people get in an argument does not mean one of them is mafia and one of them is town. Case in point is a certain mafia game when Ace and L just argued for pages, each claiming the other was mafia. Turns out both were innocent.
Mad scientist should check whether the "cool jog" was a clue, aka, did it being midnight be a clue(could relate toHeaven on earth).
Medic(ghost), please for the love of god protect me.
I'll be cordinating with the JoL's.
Grim reaper, obviously don't use it yet. Not enough info and you only get one shot.
Boogyman, watch someone who you think will get visited. (obviously)
DT its up to you. I'll make a list of my suspicion later.
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On October 13 2010 13:22 Bill Murray wrote:
You all may claim to me. I am going to go smoke. I need at least 1 ghost on me.
Do not trust Pandain's lies
*tries to stay calm*
I'm going to ask everyone to stay reasoned. Right now BM is unconfirmed, asking for a circle of blues on "faith" alone, and generally has been unhelpful this game.
In addition, there had already been one claim of JoL, I have a claim from another, and now BM is claiming at this most opportune time. Do not trust that he's that, personally being JoL doesn't mean you neccesarily will get hit.
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On October 13 2010 13:42 NB wrote:
i like the idea of not stacking ghost: each of you tail a New Player and hold on to them tonight. The chance of 1 of the new players being killed is almost 0%
exactly, why would you want to waste it. Medics want to protect people. Vampire brute will in all liklihood not be used. However, just to be sure I'm asking DT NOT to check me this night, prefferably next night or after.
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On October 13 2010 13:51 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 13:47 seRapH wrote:On October 13 2010 13:47 Bill Murray wrote:
dt is already checking you
sorry probably shouldnt be encouraging framers framer wants to die to vampire brute be my guest
Alright, this prove it.
You assume framer wants to do to vampire brute.
Brute wouldn't just kill me for framer.
You assume Vampire Brute is going to kill me.
And yet you send the DT to go check me.
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On October 13 2010 13:53 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 13:44 Pandain wrote:On October 13 2010 13:42 NB wrote:
i like the idea of not stacking ghost: each of you tail a New Player and hold on to them tonight. The chance of 1 of the new players being killed is almost 0% exactly, why would you want to waste it. Medics want to protect people. Vampire brute will in all liklihood not be used. However, just to be sure I'm asking DT NOT to check me this night, prefferably next night or after. its not wasting but saving! it just like you have money and you wana invest it now or you wana save it later? Ghost is a very good role and the more we have late game, the stronger we are. There is no point to waste them early on people who has not been role-checked. In fact: i just look over on mafia and Vamp abilities once more time: Mafia: mind fuck shit, they can do almost anything now since Vamp is down 1 => they shall lay low and frame people with invisible man => Clue day 2 cannot be trusted >.< Vamp: They have 2 choice: target lowbies to stay safe OR kill power posters (people who post a lot without spaming). the more likely is killing power posters....
That's the same as DT not checking anyone cause they could die. Blue's should always use their roles, just not openly all on the same person.
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are there clues in the night post as well?
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Alright, now, masq got lynched. And he's a vampire spawn. Now obviously the vamps wouldn't just abandon him to die right away. Also note that alot of people changed to masq when it was inevitable that he would die, but that's another story. Right now, here are some notes I'm making of the people who didn't vote masq, and why.
Lucktar: Voted Veldril, gave no reason why. Basically, claims he guessed.
On October 13 2010 07:51 Lucktar wrote:
Looks like most people are still leaning towards Masq/Veldril, I'm not convinced that it's really that important which one gets lynched tonight. I think either one has enough cause to be a reasonable guess, and guessing's pretty much all we have at this point. Pandain did bring up some interesting points about Heaven on Earth, though. Something to keep in mind.
Seems to me like Bill Murray is being super-aggressive and just lashing out at whoever seems like an easy target. He is apparently a veteran Mafia player, so maybe another vet could comment on whether that's typical for him? I'm perfectly willing to buy that it's just his style of posting, but it's definitely the most striking thing I've noticed from him. His change in position on Veldril seems especially weird, basically going from 'lynch the fucker' to 'maybe he's not so bad after all' in very little time. Perhaps trying to force himself into a position of leadership simply by speaking forcefully? I'm not sure.
Bill Murray: claims masq is "mostly" harmless. It's hard to find his exact reasons for voting him. Also at less than one hour before he changed his vote to za Veldril, from masq, on the basis of "a myseterious pm" which "proved" it. Yet he wouldn't share it.
Jodogohoo: oh my gosh. This guy is huge on my scumdar. Not only has he been spamming without really ANY content whatsover, he gives no reasons for any of his votes. I'll go into more detail in my analysis, coming up today. But heck, right now heres some food for thought, despite saying he thinks veldril is just a scape goat, and always saying that veldril needs to be lynched, he changes his vote to masq at the last second. Suscipcious, much?
Oddo: SERIOUSLY? Look at this:
On October 11 2010 14:32 oddo123 wrote:
BC's killer = Masq. His profile matches the story perfectly..unless it is a trap!
On October 12 2010 13:16 oddo123 wrote:
Masq is indeed very suspicious. My vote goes to him as of now. Will think of it further...
AND THEN COMPLETE CONTRADICTOIN:
On October 13 2010 21:22 oddo123 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 20:51 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Yay! So glad to see some productive discussion in the thread.
So, by lynching Masq, we learned one of two things:
1. Veldril is his teammate and was trying to protect him. We lynch Veldril.
2. Veldril is just an idiot and got the attention of the town with his sketchy posting. We could still lynch Veldril and I don't think there would be too much harm, assuming he's not a blue.
The way I see it, we have room for one bad lynch right now, because a first day scum kill almost never happens. We have a little leeway. That being said, I don't think we should waste a lynch.
Veldril should be watched and not forgotten, but the downside is, if we kill Veldril, we won't really have much more to go on (ceteris paribus). We have some clues that Veldril is scum, so that should be kept in our minds. However, depending on what we learn from Night 1, the discussion on Day 2 could reveal a much higher priority target. I feel it would be beneficial for town to lynch Veldril as it would mean town gets rid of one more v/m (very likely). Anyway by the time Day 3 reaches, we would have much more information and reactions to work on. I got a feeling that Night 1 will reveal a lot  , giving cause for more suspects.
Yet his actions do not match his words.
On October 12 2010 22:19 oddo123 wrote:
Vote Veldril
LexPar: Yum yum very vauge
On October 13 2010 01:53 Lexpar wrote:
Your closing phrase is a little harsh youngminii. I was ready to call you out as being overzealous until I went over the thread history again. Veldril is very inconsistent and tries too hard to play it innocent. I'm with you young.
Grandmoose:
On October 12 2010 22:18 grandmoose wrote:
Yeah I'm a bit late sorry it's my first mafia. I tried to read as much as I could from day1 to here. I think we should lynch Veldril he seems to be all over the place trying to make himself looks innocent and even has a clue against him.
I might change my vote and feel free to persuade me.
This post is very suscipcious to me. Not only does he not make a decision, leaving himself open to "oh alright, I'll do whatever you say, I'm townie, yup, of course", but his reasoning is horrible as well. "he tries to make himself look innocent and has a clue against him". Everyone tries to look innocent, and masq had a far better clue.
Kenpachi:
Made no posts, only voted. Gave no reasons why, didn't post anything besides this. extremely suscipcious.
On October 12 2010 03:58 Kenpachi wrote:
voted Veldril
annul: "They're both scum, so we should just let mafia/vampires kill masq during the night"
-.-
Also interesting:
During one point there were a spree of 5 votes for Veldril, all in two hours. These suscipcious people include: kenpachi, jodohogo, annul, yummy bla bla, and lucktar.
Also: look at this post
On October 12 2010 09:50 YummyBlaBla wrote:
Now that I think about it, I don't think Masq/Veldril can be mafia/townie.
They either have to be Mafia/Mafia, Townie/Townie, or Townie/Mafia.
Mafia/Mafia
Masq has no other choice but to vote Veldril to survive, or to look like he's a townie and going with the bandwagon.
Both Townies
Again, Masq trying to stay in the game.
Townie/Mafia
Refer to above
If they are Mafia/Townie, at least the MH bomb will kill off Masq.
Look at last sentence. Whaaaaaat? Please explain this to me.
What blues should do
Mad scientist: Check the jogging at midnight clue, ask if it being midnight or w/e is a clue. Will implicate heaven on earth.
DT's: Check someone on the above, these people need to be checked.
Medics: Please protect me, or at the very least other vets. Remember, JoL will most likely not die tonight.
Grim reaper: Please don't kill someone.
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Yum Yum says he has Yummies for the Mafia/Vampires if he lives tonight.......
He also warns they should be ready to respond........
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Alright lets blow this taco stand(<3 citizen)
A DT has already claimed to me(stupidly, but he has)
I know three JoL's.
I have another who claimed blue but hasn't revealed what.
I am willing to ally with either mafia or vampires, to get rid of one side. First come, first serve.
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On October 14 2010 10:19 annul wrote:
wait so pandain, who claimed frankenstein, is now claiming dt or boogey or whatever?
I never claimed frankenstein. I didn't claim DT. I didn't claim anything.
I do have knowledge of such people, however.
*tick tock tick tock*
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On October 14 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 10:19 Pandain wrote:
Alright lets blow this taco stand(<3 citizen)
A DT has already claimed to me(stupidly, but he has)
I know three JoL's.
I have another who claimed blue but hasn't revealed what.
I am willing to ally with either mafia or vampires, to get rid of one side. First come, first serve.
your about as trust worthy as bill at this point.
Note I'm not asking for blue role claims, I'm asking to ally with mafia/vampires for a period of time. Theres a noteable difference.
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Now this is the interseting part. Who will come last? Whoever does will almost certainly lose.
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On October 14 2010 10:29 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 16:23 Veldril wrote:
And Masq turns out to be a vampire...
If you guys are so worried about me, role check me if you want. You can even plant a bogeyman to spy whether someone visit me or not to. However, I think that some people are now 100% sure of my role right now.
Remember that town wants to reduce the number of vampire and mafia gradually and have their number similar to each other. Moreover, Mafia now would want to use town vote to kill me more than dirty their own hands. Lynching me now would only help strengthen Mafia.
All in all, reserve your judgment until day 2. There's going to be a lot of killing this night. o shit i missed that .. o well i didnt have much doubt about it anyway
wow, he even shared that pm to me, nice catch.
Hey, vamps, might be smart to ally now, no? But its alright, whoever allies with me should know I will eventually betray them(can't let them win obviously.) But its going to be funsies seeing who can get out the most via the backstabbing 
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Man don't you guys realize....we can all just get together... and just like hug and do some hippie stuff like dat.
yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
<--- needs sleep
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