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On October 07 2010 15:44 Bill Murray wrote:
Well, BC and OpZ still don't realize the townie pm is phrased "Town"
not citizen
not townie
Town.
They don't realize this. Why would they not realize that?
@Drag_ I am green, and on the side of good. Do not question me, bro.
You just lied again
[quote]Green Citizen (Town)
You are the average schmuck who makes up the backbone of the town side. You have no special powers except voting, but you are the silent majority. Enjoy that feeling for a moment. Enjoy it.
Yeah, you all know what Town does at this point. Vote by day, stay at home and wet themselves by night.
I am heading to bed now, but seriously dude? Your evidence just got thrown in your face. Give it up and stop repeating the same thing over and over. You were wrong then, and your wrong now, deal with it.[/b]
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On October 07 2010 15:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:EBWOP Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 15:44 Bill Murray wrote:
Well, BC and OpZ still don't realize the townie pm is phrased "Town"
not citizen
not townie
Town.
They don't realize this. Why would they not realize that?
@Drag_ I am green, and on the side of good. Do not question me, bro. You just lied again Show nested quote +Green Citizen (Town)
You are the average schmuck who makes up the backbone of the town side. You have no special powers except voting, but you are the silent majority. Enjoy that feeling for a moment. Enjoy it.
Yeah, you all know what Town does at this point. Vote by day, stay at home and wet themselves by night.
I am heading to bed now, but seriously dude? Your evidence just got thrown in your face. Give it up and stop repeating the same thing over and over. You were wrong then, and your wrong now, deal with it.
Added in proper formatting.
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i have no idea what in the fuck bill murray is trying to insinuate with this town/townie thing
i have a hunch there are two VI's and he's one of them. my vote is going to go to misder unless he can defend himself. i like you bill murray, but you need to start making sense before I trust you.
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On October 07 2010 15:44 Bill Murray wrote:
Well, BC and OpZ still don't realize the townie pm is phrased "Town"
not citizen
not townie
Town.
They don't realize this. Why would they not realize that?
@Drag_ I am green, and on the side of good. Do not question me, bro.
oh i understand what you are saying now
but to be honest it's a bit far fetched. the terms town/townie/pro-town/etc. are pretty much interchangeable and to go off and say someone is 100% mafia for choosing one or the other is going WAY out on a limb
let's look at behavior and arguments, not arbitrary wordplay
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Doing an iso on slot 17
On October 06 2010 14:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ok Medics, here is how the game should be played tonight.
Make a list of people you think are innocent. Now, it has to be a list of a few people. ANALYZE them every day to make sure they don't change from town to scummy in your eyes, and prot them, non stop or until we have a better idea. If anyone who pushed for flamewheels lynch is on your list, slap yourself really hard and remake your list.
As for the rest of the town. Take the time now to either look at the name above or below you in the list, and look over their posts and analyze them. Post that analysis in thread for debate. Lets get us some targets. Hell after this day there is a ton of crap to look through.
I have viewed this post as gloating, and rolefishing. Why would BloodyC0bbler have reason to be fishing for a medic? Consider the fact that Happy.Fairytale was spouting babble about the DT, and I am very happy voting to lynch slot 17 which was Happy.Fairytale and is now BloodyC0bbler.
Posts 234/235 by Happy.Fairytale were posts to fake being useful to the town
Post 255 is him fishing for Detectives through number "analysis"
Post 257 by Happy.Fairytale: Please read this+ Show Spoiler +On October 05 2010 23:19 Happy.fairytail wrote:
Yeah, I'm pretty concerned that we could potentially have 8 mod deaths by the end of today. (Not worried about Bill Murray and Cynan, it seems they're around and will post in time)
Also, in terms of accusations, I think we should start now. We only have 14 hours before the day ends, so we should give a few hours to accusations, a few hours to defending, a few hours to some townsperson deliberation, and a few hours to vote.
So inactives, now is the time for you guys to start speaking up. I'm going to point out JeeJee just 'cuz he's at the top of the inactive list, and I know he's around because I just checked his post history and his last post was 10 hrs ago (13:09 TL time). So speak up man.
This shows that he is just talking for the sake of talking. This makes the second time in a row he has posted right after his original post. If he was town, he would only need one really lengthy post, or a string of spam. I believe he is putting on a false face. I hope that you all will be convinced of Happy.Fairytale/BloodyC0bbler (remember, they're the same person as the slot) being scum. BC's play is a LOT weaker as scum based upon meta, and his play this game is so weak I wasn't even sure he was even IN the game.
On October 06 2010 21:21 Happy.fairytail wrote:
shoot, I didn't vote last night ... worked all night yesterday and fell asleep with the lights on and everything. am I mod killed? =T (gonna read the last 12 pages of posts now)
On October 06 2010 21:56 Happy.fairytail wrote:
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I had all this analysis done on this awesome spreadsheet, setting up profiles of every single person ... arghhhhhhhhhhhhfahsofuiaw8efu9anh7q23984nvpauilfjvo;uw3avn78o3nvr8oPA*OVRNA@NV
These two things are nearly an open contradiction. "I haven't read 12 pages" followed immediately by 35 minutes and then "I had all this analysis done on this awesome spreadsheet".
BULLSHIT.
Lynch BloodyC0bbler.
Remember when I posted this, DoctorH?
I'm considering going to bed. I don't work until 5pm tomorrow, but I need rest. I don't feel very well.
I'm glad you looked at your role pm and saw town, and saw i wasn't lying.
OpZ is probably lying, but he might be telling the truth. BC is definitely digging himself deeper and deeper through trying to not understand that the role PM is phrased Town. You can claim that citizen, townie, whatever. My role is Town, and I am green. Anyone who is green is "town". Also, your "defense" of my argument on your slot was basically "my slot's actions before I replaced don't exist" which is a pretty poor defense.
My vote stands on BloodyC0bbler because he is mafia
Let me win this game for you guys, Town.
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@mod may I edit in spoilers? pm me an answer, pretty sure I'm going to bed. I'd like to not clutter up the thread because I didn't spoiler my original post.
Sorry BB.
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My take on the whole "Town//Townie" questioning. It seems quite clear to me that the distinction Bill is trying to highlight here is not whether someone is Green or Blue, but on what a Town player was actually PM'd in their role. Seems a little bit shady as a strategy although nonetheless quite effective as I'm now fairly sure he is legitimately Town.
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In fact it's not even "my take" it's blatantly what he actually means as he frequently say's
"go back and look at your role PM, then tell me Town//Townie"
Him being established town (here's where "my take" is appropriate, you can make up your own minds!) doesn't mean he is correct in calling for bloody's lynch, but I'm going to need to go over the thread more purely with that in mind. OpZ is also suspect to me, along with BC, for missing Bill's intention which was quite blatant, although ofc if they were mafia they would miss it as their role PM would not make his intention blatant.
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God, what the hell is this, this isn't gonna go anywhere, guys you should just ignore BM -_-
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I skim read, Bill has pretty much made it clear and my post is redundant. I kindof give away my role slightly but Bill is correct in how it is phrased and Bloody appears to be lying when he says "Green citizen (Town) and the followup text..
Unless Brownbear used different formating for individual PM's, but I think this is unlikely. As of now I'm going to agree with voting for Bloody based on this.
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Although thinking about it Bloody joined the game later, and so the idea that his role PM might not be in standard with the rest is certainly plausible, for now I'll keep it on him as a placeholder//semi serious vote.
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On October 07 2010 15:44 Bill Murray wrote:
Well, BC and OpZ still don't realize the townie pm is phrased "Town"
not citizen
not townie
Town.
They don't realize this. Why would they not realize that?
@Drag_ I am green, and on the side of good. Do not question me, bro.
On October 07 2010 16:47 XeliN wrote:
In fact it's not even "my take" it's blatantly what he actually means as he frequently say's
"go back and look at your role PM, then tell me Town//Townie"
Him being established town (here's where "my take" is appropriate, you can make up your own minds!) doesn't mean he is correct in calling for bloody's lynch, but I'm going to need to go over the thread more purely with that in mind. OpZ is also suspect to me, along with BC, for missing Bill's intention which was quite blatant, although ofc if they were mafia they would miss it as their role PM would not make his intention blatant.
If I get killed because Artanis PM'd me "Townie" instead of "Town" I'm going to be pissed the fuck off.
Rule 6 says posting any PM from host, well Artanis isn't host, he is cohost, but what the fuck does it matter. It's okay logic, I guess, except for when someone gets a wild hair up his ass.
This game is fucked.
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On October 07 2010 20:33 XeliN wrote:
I skim read, Bill has pretty much made it clear and my post is redundant. I kindof give away my role slightly but Bill is correct in how it is phrased and Bloody appears to be lying when he says "Green citizen (Town) and the followup text..
Unless Brownbear used different formating for individual PM's, but I think this is unlikely. As of now I'm going to agree with voting for Bloody based on this.
Who was your PM from BB or Artanis?
-____- WTF...seriously...Bill didn't answer that question either.
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Don't lurk then side with BM trying to convince the town to lynch one of the strongest players right off the bat.
Although it would be good to see what he is, I would rather lynch Misder.
What is your take on Misder Xelin? You haven't been commenting on the...you know....REST OF THE DISCUSSION. Just on BM's uselessness? I didn't answer because I thought he was asking if blue/green. But I don't feel like fucking playing around the mod to find mafia.
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On October 07 2010 14:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 14:49 infinitestory wrote:On October 07 2010 14:46 Bill Murray wrote:
You, too, infinitestory. I claim town. I have no idea where you could possibly be going with this. DO NOT ANSWER HIS QUESTION FOR TOWN/TOWNIE. HE IS ASKING YOU BLUE/GREENHe's trying to get out who is blue/green so mafia can blue snipe.
yeah why is bm blatantly trying to fish for roles? I remember when he did something similar asking for claims he was GF
also
On October 07 2010 14:09 Bill Murray wrote:
I already got the VI lynched, and out of our hair. There is no way he put more than one. That would make the game very gay..
stop talking about getting the VI lynched a good thing. In all reason it should have lost us the fucking game. BB was a gracious host in letting us continue because you knew who the smurf was and still pushed his lynch, YOU'RE TERRIBLE, when the only logical conclusion one could come to is that person is anti town TRYING to get lynched ie VI
it was terrible play and it's hard for me to take anything you say seriously
ps i dont think it's impossible that we could have two VI's in this set up, but i imagine it's quite unlikely.
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On October 07 2010 16:47 XeliN wrote:
In fact it's not even "my take" it's blatantly what he actually means as he frequently say's
"go back and look at your role PM, then tell me Town//Townie"
Him being established town (here's where "my take" is appropriate, you can make up your own minds!) doesn't mean he is correct in calling for bloody's lynch, but I'm going to need to go over the thread more purely with that in mind. OpZ is also suspect to me, along with BC, for missing Bill's intention which was quite blatant, although ofc if they were mafia they would miss it as their role PM would not make his intention blatant.
Hey go read the thread, but hell Ill even quote my post that fucked BM's entire argument over about me
On October 07 2010 15:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 15:11 Bill Murray wrote:
Just give up, bro, you're wasting your energy. Everyone who is "town " in their ROLE PM knows you are a fraud And anyone would also realize that TOWN is the side you belong to. Your actual role is Citizen. So your arguing a flawed point as the point you are making IS WRONG hell, also to argue your "YOU CAUGHT ME" point more Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 14:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 07 2010 14:49 Bill Murray wrote:
that someone is you. Happy.Fairytale is you. Are you disputing that? you replaced into his slot. That's you. Deal with it.
I'm not going to stop spamming until you claim either
a) town
b) townie
c) you don't claim and we lynch you to see what you'll flip I'm town, and you already know that. I didn't disagree that I filled his slot, I do disagree with the specific reasons you weighed against me as you know damn well your lying and I will recommend any of the newer players to go check the previous games to catch you on that. Your contradiction of hft is also laughable as your having issues with someone having time to do analysis up until they got swapped out. Who cares if he missed 12 hours? Until the last minute vote swing you did in a 4 hour period there was nothing he would have missed. Now seriously stop spamming, you've been warned for it in previous games as well as near modkilled for it so stop it and make detailed posts. Oh look, I claimed what you wanted before you called me out on calling you out on bullshit. Stop cherry picking posts. I have refuted your nonsense at every step and now your getting desperate kid.
second nested quote, bolded text and youll see I said Town. This was before I argued with bill. As I said, to him and I'll say to you, stop cherry picking posts. You know exactly what Bill was attempting to do, and are agreeing with his logic that got shot to pieces by two people already.
I have already refuted BM's post above me, as well as all of the crap associated with it.
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On October 07 2010 20:33 XeliN wrote:
I skim read, Bill has pretty much made it clear and my post is redundant. I kindof give away my role slightly but Bill is correct in how it is phrased and Bloody appears to be lying when he says "Green citizen (Town) and the followup text..
Unless Brownbear used different formating for individual PM's, but I think this is unlikely. As of now I'm going to agree with voting for Bloody based on this.
okay i really shouldn't let this post slip up under the radar.
lets pick apart individual parts to really get an idea of how blatant this shit is.
I skim read
straight up admits to being lazy and this is a good cover should he make any glaring errors in interpreting the situation. Which is FINE as long as he doesn't take some concrete stance from this right, after all he hasn't thoroughly read the thread right?
Unless Brownbear used different formating for individual PM's
first of all, there are two people that sent out the fucking PMs, ask them if you want they can verify. Secondly trying to pick apart wording from a role pm is HILARIOUS because as with every mafia game the example pm is in the fucking OP
As of now I'm going to agree with voting
well this certainly seems to hurt with his first mini quote. He admits to barely reading the thread, and seemingly wants to JUMP at any chance to be able to vote at someone. Like first of all someone listening to bm's reasoning without discretion after he got the VI lynched = LOL
secondly someone going well I DIDNT READ THE THREAD, then agreeing with someone who clearly is retarded is a terrible lapse in judgement.
This is the first solid red read i've been getting off of anyone (besides bm but he doesn't count cause he always comes off as scummy). Xelin is not sticking his neck out, xelin is not forming his own opinions, xelin is throwing a vote on someone via someone elses terrible reasoning. This is a common tactic to go 'oh it's only joking semi place holder' then never move it if no one pressures you about it.
Well guess what mother fucker you're getting pressure.
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Xelin are you serious? Bill Murray has done nothing but spew bullshit this entire thread and all of a sudden you "side with him" because of town/townie? You've played mafia games with BM before, and you're going to side with him? This is the same crap he pulls every game. I wake up and I open up FF to see the night post and follow-up posts between midnight and now. I see "TL MAFIA XXXI" and I'm like "cool it's been active." I click the thread and I remembered leaving off at page 27. Now it's 7 pages later and I got excited. The town was active! They are posting! I read about 2 pages in and realize how Day 2 was starting off. I pretty much went from :-D, to :-), to :-?, to >:|, to >:/, to "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" in about 5 minutes. I'm sitting here thinking, "could it get any worse?" Oh it does. Xelin you're going to defend BM on this and lynch a high-tier player? You know the only reason BM is doing this is because it's BC, not because HFT managed to fuck up and not vote. I can't side with an argument that has no concrete evidence.
Now I also notice that BM is praising his lynch on the VI. You dumb bro? That was supposed to be game over. You managed to fuck the game up within 24 hours, and now you continue hacking away at players fishing for roles, like you always do. Luckily this is a non-PM game so you can't harass us like the last time, so I guess your only outlet is this thread.
SERIOUSLY STOP THE SPAM.
Just gonna say this if we just lynched BM on Day 1 like I subtly suggested this would have never happened:
1. VI wouldn't have been killed.
2. BC/OPZ/DrH wouldn't be on the chopping block
3. Thread would be about 4 pages less and more read-able and less frustrating.
4. Xelin wouldn't stick his head out (what is this all about?)
To be honest I don't even think any of the 5 people I've listed are mafia, it's just inner-town squabbles. You gotta remember that not everyone got a "townie PM" anyway so lynching based upon Artanis/BB's noun choices is laughable. And If that happens I'm gonna pretty much stop playing because that's just nonsense (and it will be the 2nd time in a row in this game we've allowed noise to clutter up the voting thread.)
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Wow spam much.
Right now I'm thinking Bill is either A. a second village idiot, or B. mafia trying to hide behind the fear of a second village idiot. Its very tempting to vote for him regardless just to get the spam to stop. I really don't understand why he is bragging about convincing everyone(myself included) to vote for the village idiot. Hurrr I made us lose on the first day Im a good player Hurrrrrrrr.
As for the role PM's I think people are just trying to confuse everyone. Even if some one is helping brown bear host, I seriously doubt that he would send out half the role PMs, and some one else would send out the other half. I think anyone(read: Opz) claiming that their PM was not sent by brownbear is very suspicious. Im not going to get nitpicking about the town/townie distinction as they are commonly interchangeable.
My next step is to go reread the past 7 pages completely ignoring everything Bill said and see if it makes any more sense. Then again maybe I should go back and point out the inconsistencies in his spam as Im sure I could find quite a few
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Let's pleast stop talking about the PMs. It's a slippery slope, and as you all know, quoting all or part of them is illegal.
Get back to scumhunting based off of analysis, not stupid PM-based shit.
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