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Moving on however,
On October 08 2010 17:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 17:13 Bill Murray wrote: basically, we have a day to put pressure on someone. We need to start a wagon on mafia. Who are your top suspects, DoctorH? I suspect Xelin and cynanmachae of being red or blue,
For what reasons do you think I am Red or Blue. Outline your thought process behind the suspicion.
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Oh I PM'd Brown asking if it was true that both him and Artanis sent out role PM's.
At the time I found it quite suspicious and suspected it might have been a mafia invention in order to get out of what might have been viewed as an unfair position, I was apparently wrong and both did send out the PM's.
Obviously back when I wrote that post if I had been told that Artanis did not send out PM's i'd of had quite alot to say...
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On October 08 2010 17:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 17:39 Bill Murray wrote: it could be a lie to save the mafia i could be a 10 year old asian girl
And I could be your friends older brother, and you've come round but only I'm in and your wearing...
Mafia arn't the only type of predator that is fun to roleplay!
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On October 09 2010 03:06 NukeTheBunnys wrote: Xelin - Very suspicious because of his support of BM and continued use of the whole PM junk
Ok, This hypocrisy is rlly irritating me right now.
You cannot get away with calling me out as being suspicious in this way. The only way I can respond to your post is by using a line of argument and subject matter that has been forbidden me.
What Nuke is doing here IS continuing the banned subject matter in just the same way as I am alleged to be doing so.
Surely I am not the only one that recognises this.
To try to illustrate why, the response to this might show it better
Nuke, explain fully what I am suspicious based on the reasons you stated, outline explicitely what you mean, the logical reasons why and the deductions you have drawn.
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First off its not hypocrisy. If I was making arguments about the syntax of PMs after brown bear banned it It would be hypocritical, but I am not. What I am making an argument about is how you continued to make a big deal about the syntax of PMs after brown bear banned it. In any case I will not make anymore arguments relating to anything about PMs for the rest of the game.
The one biggest piece of evidence remaining after you disregard anything involving PM is this.
No you are not making any type of argument in the slightest. You are simply saying "this is suspicious" there is no argument there whatsoever.
"What I am making is an argument about how you continued to...." where is the argument your making? the idea is that you are trying to establish that my involvement in the PM stuff somehow makes me suspicious in your eyes but in no way at all have you outlined an argument as to why this is
On October 08 2010 05:22 XeliN wrote: I'll make a concise post addressing all of you wonderful people questioning me in a little bit, currently I am waiting on a piece of information.
To briefly outline a few things however.
I believe Bill to be 100% Green Town I am suspicious of the assertion that both Brown and Artanis sent out role PM's, my inclination is to think only Brown did My vote on Bloody was initially a more sincere one, now it is a placeholder whilst I evaluate, if it makes any of you feel more comfortable I'll change it to myself Divinek likes to say fuck
Now if you agree, and think bill is just an annoying green then there is nothing really noteworthy about this post. If you disagree, like many players do, then it is quite interesting. First off everyone should always be suspicious of everyone else, and yet you are not. you are 100% sure that he is green. Even if you were the DT, you would not have investigated yet so you couldn't be sure. The only group of people that are sure about identities is the mafia are 100% sure who their allies are, so to me throwing your lots in with someone that strongly is quite suspicious.
Now this alone is not enough to really get me hounding after your blood, and accusing you of being red. It is enough to get me to keep a very close eye on you and to try and get others to do so as well. [/QUOTE]
I have already mentioned why I consider bill to be town aligned. If you disagree with my reasoning where I outlined why then respond to it. Don't just state "Considering anyone town is suspicious, you should be suspicious of everyone" and ignore the reasons I have given as to how I arrived at this position.
(ofc you should be ignoring the reasons why I arrived at this position due to them being outlawed but therin lies my point that you are, perhaps inadvertantly, continuing the banned stuff by posting what you have)
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Format error, ought to have looked like this + Show Spoiler + First off its not hypocrisy. If I was making arguments about the syntax of PMs after brown bear banned it It would be hypocritical, but I am not. What I am making an argument about is how you continued to make a big deal about the syntax of PMs after brown bear banned it. In any case I will not make anymore arguments relating to anything about PMs for the rest of the game.
The one biggest piece of evidence remaining after you disregard anything involving PM is this.
No you are not making any type of argument in the slightest. You are simply saying "this is suspicious" there is no argument there whatsoever. "What I am making is an argument about how you continued to...." where is the argument your making? the idea is that you are trying to establish that my involvement in the PM stuff somehow makes me suspicious in your eyes but in no way at all have you outlined an argument as to why this is Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 05:22 XeliN wrote: I'll make a concise post addressing all of you wonderful people questioning me in a little bit, currently I am waiting on a piece of information.
To briefly outline a few things however.
I believe Bill to be 100% Green Town I am suspicious of the assertion that both Brown and Artanis sent out role PM's, my inclination is to think only Brown did My vote on Bloody was initially a more sincere one, now it is a placeholder whilst I evaluate, if it makes any of you feel more comfortable I'll change it to myself Divinek likes to say fuck Now if you agree, and think bill is just an annoying green then there is nothing really noteworthy about this post. If you disagree, like many players do, then it is quite interesting. First off everyone should always be suspicious of everyone else, and yet you are not. you are 100% sure that he is green. Even if you were the DT, you would not have investigated yet so you couldn't be sure. The only group of people that are sure about identities is the mafia are 100% sure who their allies are, so to me throwing your lots in with someone that strongly is quite suspicious. Now this alone is not enough to really get me hounding after your blood, and accusing you of being red. It is enough to get me to keep a very close eye on you and to try and get others to do so as well. I have already mentioned why I consider bill to be town aligned. If you disagree with my reasoning where I outlined why then respond to it. Don't just state "Considering anyone town is suspicious, you should be suspicious of everyone" and ignore the reasons I have given as to how I arrived at this position. (ofc you should be ignoring the reasons why I arrived at this position due to them being outlawed but therin lies my point that you are, perhaps inadvertantly, continuing the banned stuff by posting what you have)
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Well one thing I will say is that I do not think the arguments, or perhaps analysis is a better term, you have layed out is enough to warrant the conclusion Cynan is mafia
At best you've outlined inconsistency in what he's posted, but going from that to the claim he is definately mafia is quite a stretch to me and I'm abit suprised you've jumped to the assumption.
This is purely in response to your analysis on him, I'm not saying I consider to be, or not to be mafia.
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I was sure we had unlimited double lynches, I looked through the OP and there was no mention of there only being two, but I only read the description section, going back it shoes 2 double lynches remaining at the bottom, so sorry SiN 
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Now I don't want to push this too hard, because people will no doubt jump on it as a reason to label me suspicious (note my response to Nuke way back in the thread calling him out for doing so without providing any form of argument and he still hasn't responded), but anyway.
There seems to be a large number of people that think Bill is both unlikely to be mafia yet also think he would be a good lynch. This is plain idiocy, there are not many situations where lynching a town player is beneficial to the towns interest objectively and this is not one of them.
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SouthRawrea read that post of mine you quoted in context it should be fairly clear why I wrote it.
ie. look at the posts Dr was making before it as quite clearly I was responding to him.
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On October 11 2010 04:52 kane]deth[ wrote: Xelin seemed to be weak and uninspired This is exactly how I feel this game.
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