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On August 31 2010 14:28 Ace wrote: This question doesn't make sense. The role block stops a role from acting and destroys BP. It has no effect on medic protections. Also a lot of questions can be answered by reading the OP. Just making sure, thanks. | ||
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#1 rastaban--- Comp Vig (role confirmed by Hesmyrr), claims he got RB-ed night 2 #2 Chaoser --- Likely Bad Santa, list of Elfs: Radfield, Sinliquidy, Citi.zen, Opz, Bumatlarge #3 LSB --- Prince of Darkness, was watched + visited by one other person night 2 #4 #5 #6 Southrawrea --- Claims he picked Traitor but got vanilla #7 #8 Fishball --- claimed Bullet Bill, checked Opz night one and Sinliquidy night 2 #9 Opz --- Claimed Meth Man after claiming Tracker, ELF, no gun according to Fishball #10 Citizen --- Tracker, ELF, JeeJee to DTA night one, saw Chaoser stand still night 2 #11 BrownBear #12 JeeJee - Can travel, visited DTA night 1 #13 DarthThienAn #14 siNiquity --- ELF, no gun according to Fishball #15 Divinek --- Day Vig, killed BM day 1 #16 #17 #18 Bumatlarge --- Watcher, ELF, saw 4 people visit Zeks night 1and one visit LSB night 2 #19 Pandain --- Claimed Martyr, we know he isn't pardoner For completeness I will attached the "plan" list as well, since this might be what the mafia reasonably expected people to go by: #1 Comp Vig #2 Bad Santa #3 Prince of Darkness #4 33/33/33 CV, Bad Santa or PoD #5 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each) #6 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role #8 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role #9 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role #10 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role #11 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #12 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #13 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #14. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other(Alignment Cop, Mason, Martyr, etc.) #15. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other #16. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other #17 50% role cop, 50% other #18 50% Joat, 50% other #19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other #20 50% tracker, 50% other | ||
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On September 01 2010 05:11 Pandain wrote: Cause guys remember, as long as we keep the CV aiming towards our townie aims, mafia has to roleblock him to delay us winning. And then they can't roleblock people like me for instance. Only if we aim correctly. That's the annoying thing. | ||
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On September 01 2010 05:15 Fishball wrote: Did the possibility of SR being the Vengeful Player just went right out of the window? I love how you drop in the thread to stir the pot every now and then. You never follow it up, never point fingers, you just raise these coy little questions. Unless someone accuses you that is, then we actually get long posts. Right out of the mafia manual, right? Give the town nothing. Fishball and SR are my top suspects. Then there's the roleblocker, who has to be one of BrownBear, JeeJee or DTA. | ||
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On September 01 2010 05:48 Ace wrote: [/i][/blue][/b]As an aside, I designed and tweaked some of the roles so that it wasn't easy to figure out which roles were really good in all instances ^_^ You certainly got me: I thought tracker was more powerful and failed to realize how awesome Bad Santa can be. | ||
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On September 01 2010 05:43 Pandain wrote: Oh wow, you know that's my plan. You say as long as we aim right, but all that matters is we find the RB eventually. They will have to roleblock him in order to delay. Anyway, Its not JeeJee. DTA would've claimed being roleblocked(since Jeejee visited him night one.) He's either alignment cop or Joat or doctor. But if he's scum the only reason he would be alignment cop is to delay roles, as mafia already know all the alignments. In addition, he's not doctor since he claimed to have "been able to confirm that citizen is telling the truth and opz is lying". Therefore, he's either a scum alignment cop(doubtful) or Joat, joat being the more likely. But now I'm starting to think he may be a townie Joat/alignment cop, who thought he had been able to confirm what's the truth, but then realized either he had a sanity part, or realized he didn't have enough info. If he's town joat, he investigated darth, as why would he protect/talk to him on first night? In addition, he definitely didn't shoot him. But then he wouldn't have been able to "confirm" the truth. Therefore, he's town alignment cop, or scum alignment cop/joat. One question: does a vanilla player get told if they were visited by the role-blocker? | ||
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On September 01 2010 05:58 Pandain wrote: Yes. I asked Ace(whether in thread or out, can't remember) Just to close this loop then: DTA, could you confirm whether or not you got visited by the RB on night one? | ||
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On September 01 2010 10:54 SiNiquity wrote: It's actually a great idea. If Chaoser is indeed red (and not even necessarily Bad Santa, could be any role with a made up list) then confirming a bunch of people who were pro-town (bum via very helpful watcher info, myself via fishball whose role was confirmed via zeks, radfield by dying) and slipping a mafia or 2 on the list is the best play possible.. Which is why lynching Chaoser, not SR was the move to make tonight. Confirming the list is way more imperative than this traitor bullshit, but it even has the benefit of removing a top 3 role should SR be telling the truth. But the town had to rush off and majority lynch. -_- gj. Chaoser offered this very plan for today. Perhaps we should have gone with it. At this point in time I am not convinced it's a great idea because of simple arithmetics: we just (tried to) lynch SR. It's mafia time - they can kill one of the elfs, leaving 3 on the "confirmed" list. Then we lynch Chaoser. The mafia get to kill again, possibly leaving 2 "confirmed" people up there. We're trading 3 people for 2 "confirmed" names and no new information on the mafia. | ||
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On September 01 2010 11:13 Divinek wrote: they could try but if this is our plan surely we'll be trying to protect someone from that list, and there's probably a meth man and maybe other defensive roles in there. If we kill chaoser we basically confirm like 1/4 to 1/3 of the remaining players, id say that's useful it's better than going oh well we lynch a guy so we know there's a traitor in the top 3, now we KNOW these people are 100% on our side so we can believe all they say, all their claims, THIS IS SO USEFUL, and we'll obviously protect our most powerful roles from that list. They can pop vanillas all they want rofl The meth man already claimed and can be avoided. I doubt there are any town medics, JeeJee is not a doctor from his post telling the "docs" to pay attention. One role is probably RB. So there is no way to protect anyone. I still say trade of 3 innocents for 2 confirmed townies, with no new info on the mafia, is a really bad trade. | ||
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On September 01 2010 11:16 SiNiquity wrote: Ya, maybe we should've gone with it? Yes, let's assume that Chaoser is town and everyone is already confirmed, and then justify not lynching him because "it's not worth it." Great idea. Citizen you're a better player than this, what's with the bad play? Do you want to know what I think? I think we're going in circles trying to use blue roles that were confusing. Add to that fake claims and we're getting nowhere. Let's see: One of SR or a top 3 players lied; Opz lied; Pandain lied multiple times. This is fruitless. What we need to do is stop trying to figure crap out based on claims or investigations and lynching the scummiest person around. Right now that is Fishball, hands down. | ||
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On September 01 2010 11:17 Ace wrote: If the Pardoner posted in the thread to remove their pardon before the 3 hours was up then sure. It would have been nice to know this + the fact that it can be revoked secretly. | ||
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On September 01 2010 11:37 Ace wrote: ??? They can't revoke it secretly. I said in the thread. Pardoner like Day Vigi and Vengeful Player can't communicate anything to me via PM. My mistake, you're right! | ||
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