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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 23 2010 22:00 GMT
#404
On August 24 2010 06:21 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 05:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 24 2010 01:22 Radfield wrote:
On August 23 2010 23:16 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I picked Day Vig before Ace redesigned the Draft list...Now that I'm higher on the list...I think I'll be getting something more...useful.


Why are you ignoring the plan? It's like you're determined to be hard-headed about this "game hasn't started" business. Let me quote Ace for you "The game has now officially started!"

Either post why you think the plan has flaws so we can iron them out, like citizen is doing, or help out by coming up with something else. Don't make excuses for why you're not helping.

Citizen, I have more to say to address and expand on your concerns, I just don't have the time right now.

Also, People may need to send in new roles to Ace since the drafting order has changed.

Who said I didn't follow the plan? I just would of Day Vig'd BM had I been at slot ten. And sheep my way into a plan? Pshhaa...
PYP
Pick Your Power
Winning =/= Fun

Picking what role I am is the point of PYP in my eyes, and attempting to win. That's the fun in this game to me. I didn't say I disregarded the plan, and would not tell anyone else to, but had I been at spot ten, I would have picked Day Vig and killed Bill Murray.






that was my one true hope as well going into this draft

At this point you might as well stick to the list. Also, take the RNG part seriously - we need doctors and the meth man threat.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 23 2010 23:16 GMT
#415
:-) resent. Hopefully this is it...
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 23 2010 23:51 GMT
#420
Bm is only ok as Mafia, otherwise he's disruptive or worse. Would be ok lynching him... why not :-)
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 24 2010 00:10 GMT
#423
Right. You can change it up to the deadline.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 24 2010 02:21 GMT
#435
On August 24 2010 11:16 chaoser wrote:
um, why isn't copy cat up on top? mafia will probably try to kill CV and if copy cat is in their hands then they'll get the power...

Among other problems...
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 24 2010 02:30 GMT
#437
On August 24 2010 11:28 Pandain wrote:
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On August 24 2010 11:16 chaoser wrote:
um, why isn't copy cat up on top? mafia will probably try to kill CV and if copy cat is in their hands then they'll get the power...


14-16

75% chance of copy cat(more so since it's recomeneded.) So sure mafia can try to kill the CV despite doctor protection, but it'll all be a waste >.

Do you SERIOUSLY expect the mafia to let that role drop so far down the list? Just because you asked them nicely?

Chaoser's point is very good and fits with my overall discomfort with the list business.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 24 2010 02:41 GMT
#438
Actually, the copy-cat issue could be handled through our day 1 lynch I guess.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 24 2010 02:55 GMT
#441
On August 23 2010 10:54 Ace wrote:
I spoke to Korynne and she said she wont have the time to replace in. She does have a life to live ya know?

Anyway this is the Draft Order ^_^

  1. SouthRawrea
  2. rastaban
  3. chaoser
  4. LSB
  5. Hesmyrr
  6. zeks
  7. siNiquity
  8. jspazz
  9. Fishball
  10. ~Opz~
  11. citi.zen
  12. BrownBear
  13. JeeJee
  14. DarthThienAn
  15. Divinek
  16. Radfield
  17. Bill Murray
  18. bumatlarge
  19. Pandain


You all have ~24 hours which is tomorrow night at 10:00 PM ET/11:00 KST to send in your role picks. Good luck!


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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 24 2010 03:03 GMT
#444
No, no, you should have MORE faith in humanity. Including the mafia in this game.

Speaking of rolling over and dying, is jspazz going to be mod-killed for an extra bit of LOL? This seems to be his last post:

On August 22 2010 12:20 johnnyspazz wrote:
it's not really forced double lynches everyday. we can just no lynch and have the CV shoot.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 24 2010 18:59 GMT
#457
Jspazz is likely mod-killed. The list is making me uncomfortable since the mafia and SK will know pretty well where to look for what roles. Are we scraping it after #4? Maybe add copy-cat at 5?
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 24 2010 23:29 GMT
#459
Ok, let's scrap it past number 3 and go from there. I would post the gaps just so others don't later.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 25 2010 01:28 GMT
#471
The first 3 spots should stick to the designated picks, and be held accountable for it. Fourth spot could choose roleblocker.

After that the only thing you should be doing is randomizing between a defensive role and useful town role. Don't announce exactly what you do (ex: don't say you're 50% cop). Randomize honestly, we need defensive roles.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 25 2010 03:25 GMT
#500
Nice, it only took a few minutes for us to shoot ourselves in the foot. More than we already had, that is. BM made a great day 1 LYNCHING target. To vigi him was... not very pro-town at all.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 25 2010 03:47 GMT
#503
On August 25 2010 12:29 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2010 12:25 citi.zen wrote:
Nice, it only took a few minutes for us to shoot ourselves in the foot. More than we already had, that is. BM made a great day 1 LYNCHING target. To vigi him was... not very pro-town at all.


why was he such a good lynch target? What does he ever do day 1 besides suggest retarded plans that can screw the town over. Why bother wasting a lynch on someone you know we'll have to kill because of his play style.

Why risk a repeat performance of pyp

The faster we die/use KPs, the happier the mafia is. One person already got mod killed - chances are it was a townie. Now another townie died in Bill. So it's probably 18v4v1 now. We will probably mis-lynch (day 1 lynches are very rarely successful). There will be 2 KPs night 1, making it a probable 15v4v1 at the start of day 2. From night 2 onwards there should be 3 KP each night... this could unravel fast.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 25 2010 15:13 GMT
#520
On August 25 2010 23:58 SouthRawrea wrote:
Well shit. I would like to announce that at least 2 people did not follow along with the plan made for role picking.

I was going to yell at you for publicly making any statements revealing information about what you or other people got. I still don't think it's a good idea to flat out announce stuff like that and make it easier for the mafia/Sk to kill good roles and avoid the meth man.

Then I noticed you picked 6th and are claiming to know that TWO people did not follow the plan. I am intrigued.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 25 2010 16:10 GMT
#529
You mean the role you didn't get? I would guess RoleBlocker, based on yesterday's suggestions in the thread from Radfield/myself:


On August 25 2010 10:28 citi.zen wrote:
The first 3 spots should stick to the designated picks, and be held accountable for it. Fourth spot could choose roleblocker.

After that the only thing you should be doing is randomizing between a defensive role and useful town role. Don't announce exactly what you do (ex: don't say you're 50% cop). Randomize honestly, we need defensive roles.


On August 25 2010 10:24 Radfield wrote:
I don't think we should scrap the plan. Stick with the plan, as it should give us a ton of good roles.

The only addendum I think really may need to happen is picking up the roleblocker fairly high up.

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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 25 2010 16:18 GMT
#534
LOL - i'll laugh so hard if 2 people in the top 6 tried defect by picking traitor. That's the spirit guys!
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 25 2010 16:50 GMT
#542
Either way, the chance to lynch a traitor on day 1 makes me smile :-)
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 25 2010 17:32 GMT
#547
However, having a traitor in those top 4 picks is actually really great, because if the mafia want to try and pick up the traitor, they have to start shooting at the roles we already want dead: CV, Bad Santa, PoD, maybe Roleblocker. Great, let them do our work for us. We really don't need to worry about the traitor at all for now.

Not quite true, the mafia don't need to sacrifice a KP:

Traitor - You hold no allegiance to the town. If you are targeted by Scum at night with any action, instead of that action happening you'll be recruited by them instead. You lose if the Mafia lose. However you are part of the town count before recruitment. This role is nullified for the Serial Killer(s) since it may be too broken if they have it.

They could use a ... doctor or something. We wouldn't even know it - the mafia count is undisclosed.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 25 2010 17:37 GMT
#552
On August 26 2010 02:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I feel like hearing from Chaoser, LSB, Subversion a little more....Too quiet TBH.

I would like some more information right now. We can either ignore hesmyrr from this point or not. Anyone got some stances on that?

Radfield, you are forgetting the mafia can target the traitor with ANY action and obtain the traitor onto their team. I'm curious if we are informed if the mafia's number grows, since we know how many mafia are in the game already.

Ace could you clarify that?

No, WE don't:

# of Mafia in the Game
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