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On July 30 2010 11:10 SiNiquity wrote: /in if it starts after 8/2 Edit: Hey, I'm marine now! | ||
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On August 03 2010 15:01 Roffles wrote: /in with the stipulation of posting a lot less than I would normally post. Don't wanna inflate this post count too much. In fact I don't see myself posting much until player number goes down to about 10 but meh. | ||
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Pandain "Far too early to vote for someone because you think their mafia ... I still believe we should be pressuring every inactive person by threatening to lynch an inactive person." Nah, the pressuing inactive is good and well, but it doesn't mean you can't display serious suspicions alongside with the pressure. In fact discussing non-random vote on someone can produce far more interesting reads instead of discussing generic policy lynch of lurkers. At current moment I do not see much credience to BM's reasoning of attack though (basically stating manner of his post feels like scum) and claiming 'RVS' to be over could potentially be gambit to put himself in pro-town light. I'll see. Divinek immediately responding with WIFOM reasoning seems damaging to his case, but I somewhat hesitate on giving it seriously scummy read as it is still early phase of the game and I do not see a way for him to redeem himself against BM's attacks except by continually generating pro-town analysis (which can only be done after certain amount of posts were made). bumatlarge makes me feel twitchy for some reason. Basic explanatory post for all newbies -> plays devil's advocate to Bill Murray -> votes Divinek. It might as well be prod/pressure vote to see how Bill Murray/Divinek respond though, so I'll read on. I look at the voting thread and see the bandwagon hadn't gathered much steam though, so unsure how commited he was to the vote. "If you dont know where to start, just speculate about the blue roles and ideas. Scared about that? Give opinions about other ideas! Just pour your heart out and if you are completely honest, you'll gain some cred in the view of the town. EVEN IF YOU ARE A GREENIE, MAKE BELIEVE YOU ARE BLUE." This advice confuses me, probably because I don't explicitedly understand meaning behind some parts of the sentence Bill Murray Awesome, pull a fishing or pressure bandwagon upon someone and immediately reveal your intention even before lots of people had chance to respond! Negative reading here. Only pro-town motive I can see behind the post is that he found what he was looking for in one of the players responses. youngminii did not vote for Bill Murray even after pointing out above fallacy. Positive reading. On the other hand rastaban's action is somehow confusing. Post stating he is going to vote for BM (13:03) Vote for Bill Murray (13:08) Post about his vote (13:11) I don't see point behind 13:11 post besides potential effort to pre-emptively prevent people from having negative reaction to his countervote. Of course considering quality of posts here at this site I am giving it the benefit of the doubt though. Divinek "lynch all liars as they say right" WOH? rastaban I am still in favour of leveling serious accusations and putting pressure upon people day 1. Attacking someone doesn't mean the town stops pressuring lurkers. Of course I agree in absense of logical accusation the town should scurry to remove active lurkers, but just saying always lynch lurkers in d1 is far too short-sighted. If we don't get correct reads in day 1, then we just have to improve our scumhunting better. VayeshMoru VOTING THREADS ARE SCOURGE OF THE EARTH Okay, fist-shaking aside. I would really appreciate it if everyone consistently paid attention to the voting patterns and coax player into giving out his/her reasons. Though I agree with the sentiment, I am disposed to view this post in unfavourable light because action of Bill Murray, and in fact everyone, DOES need to be discussed. It kinda feels like attempt to draw some of spotlights away from BM. Bill Murray LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL One sentence: above plan only works when all PR actually trust and claim to you, which I highly doubt happening and will result in subsequent town fail. Subsequent votes and display of people's opinions about Bill Murray's action is interesting (including youngminii's too scummy to be scum opinion) I think it would be pretty beneficial when we know BM's flip. We still have two options:do we want to lynch him today, or lynch inactive today and have investigative roles check BM? Pyrrhuloxia "Also, 9 people will lie. You forgot ninjas, youngminii. So we will get at least 9 liars to pick through, 3 of which will be ninjas we don't need to kill." Just curious, why would ninjas bring unnecessary attention to themselves by claiming as PR in possibly mafia-infiltrated network who would be very eager to see blue roles dead lying on the ground? Oh hey, ninja # gaffe. I am expecting oncoming pointless debate about number of current ninjas. No? I am pleasantly surprised. I am tired. I will post my opinions about rest of the pages tomorrow. Also lol love1another. Vote love1another (Placeholder) | ||
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Plan Plan Plan I don't have time to substantially analyze the proposal but it seem pretty solid on first glance, besides the fact that lot of people seem to be giving in their opinion- doubt I have something they have not thought of. Sudden Roffle bandwagon is interesting, it kind of shifts the focus away from love1another (I am inclined to believe this because current debate is about whether to lynch BM or INACTIVE, love1another just feeling in INACTIVE spot. By pushing Roffles into INACTIVE spot less attention is given to former) so I am keeping my vote where it is. | ||
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On August 08 2010 16:05 Bill Murray wrote: FoS on hesmyrr and amber[light] for not being active enough Better off posting one meaningful post every day rather than cluttering the thread with simple posts. | ||
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On August 09 2010 11:23 tree.hugger wrote: About the day post: This is positive. There's a missing kill there (Foolishness(?)), and a wandering townie died, which is actually somewhat fortunate. All blue roles intact, and the plan intact too. Mafia probably killed LSB because he was being really effective. Problem is, mafia suck at killing blues. If nobody screws up in pm land, (hello last game) we're set. But about this hit, I'm positive Foolishness is telling the truth. He always gets hit night one, but flamewheel probably took pity or something, and made him a vet. Or a medic saved him, but that means our plan is screwed, and we wasted a day on this. This seems important. Foolishness, can you clarify whether you are a vet or were medic protected? | ||
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* Foolishness was hit. * BrownBear was role blocked. I am not sure I can make statements about other's post since they are kind of ambiguous for moment. Hopefully you guys can start a PM circle going, but otherwise unless new events occur it seems like we would default to BM lynch for today (This IS consistent to my position if you cared to read my explanation btw, Chez). | ||
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On August 09 2010 12:26 DarthThienAn wrote: I have an idea. My suggestion is that we coordinate better if we know what units we have on the field. The mafia will be forced to lie, and if we coordinate early enough there is no way we can lose all of our good pieces. Every game where I've seen people nameclaim or roleclaim I've seen the town win as far as I can remember. Do you guys want to win? I am very competitive. I know I like to. I will risk my life for you guys. Feel free to claim to me. If everyone would just trust me this one time, we could have an epic game. Basically, I'm waiting to hear about more of what went down Night 1. >>. LOL jokepost. Are we going to have to suffer from posts like this every normal TL mafia game now? | ||
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For example, if Tracker really did not visit Xelin, the Xelin's veracity is in doubt and fear of not all PR visitng him (which CAN happen in this forum) will stall or maybe even stop the plan. Then when Xelin happens to die later on and flip town, we should definitely look heavily into everyone who gave out ambiguous soft-claims (such as VayeshMoru with his fanfic, if my memory serves?) | ||
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On August 10 2010 10:48 Divinek wrote: did you just publicly admit you were going to be useless until a few more potential mis lynches Oops that was poor choice of words. I meant though I will pay equal amount of effort, I do not expect much to happen with so much confusion going on with this much people. And also lol BM. | ||
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On August 10 2010 11:17 Bill Murray wrote: he's obviously going to act like i give the most info, because he's hurt that i got him lynched in an ongoing game that i don't want to reference Wow, using the outside game content - ONGOING EVEN - to justify your argument is pretty low. Besides the fact Pyrr has been clamouring for your lynch far before the conflict started over there far far away. | ||
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It's interesting though, why he would choose to reveal it. If he is red there was absolutely no reason for him to make the fact public since mafia knows his identity anyway. There is no gain- unless he wants to incriminate foolishness along with him by exploiting his foolish lack of secrecy. So if he flips scum I will be slightly inclined to believe him as town. If he is green facepalm to me for not thinking to remove cancer of the town when I had the opportunity yesterday. | ||
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It's interesting though, why he would choose to reveal it. If he is red there was absolutely no reason for him to make the fact public since mafia knows his identity anyway. There is no gain- unless he wants to incriminate foolishness along with him by exploiting his foolish lack of secrecy. So if he flips scum I will be slightly inclined to believe him as town. If he is green facepalm to me for not thinking to remove cancer of the town when I had the opportunity yesterday. | ||
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Actually, if BM actually flips green, then it is time to put pressure on foolishness, because frankly he should know better. I also wouldn't put much credence into position people took regarding certain person; I saw way much examples where player dogmatically and irrationally defended someone while being town. It by itself is not enough to incriminate someone, and should be only used as indicator - "oh he defended scum better iso him" instead of "omg he defended scum lynch him!" | ||
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BrownBear and Foolishness are in contact with each other. Foolishness is also in separate contact with Bill Murray. If Foolishness is mafia, then he can kill BB with impunity, but BB might have taken insurance by telling someone about contact between them. So by telling Bill Murray, he buys an way out because he was under big pressure yesterday- and knowing his play tendency might have expected him to reveal it. The fact supporting this argument is that I see no reason for Foolishness to tell Bill Murray BB's role. Of course I think other way is more probable, that Bill Murray is scum and he is taking advantage of Foolishness's mistake by revealing the fact that he came to knew BB's identity due to Foolishness. Knowing how Foolishness defended him, it would not be very hard to push for his lynch if BM flips red. Fact supporting this is I see no reason why Bill Murray would reveal he know BB's role- I honestly do not believe Bill thought revealing someone else's role was going to save him. | ||
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If Bill Murray flips red, I am going to read through Foolisness's posts deep and hard before I make a decision to lynch him as another scum. | ||
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On August 12 2010 11:31 rastaban wrote: I was role blocked last night guys | ||
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On August 12 2010 23:27 bumatlarge wrote: I cant really put my finger on the BM and Foolishness arguement, but I guess Im in no place to talk since i "didnt roleclaim" Im going to put my vote on xelin until he rectifies this. Why? The framer is dead and no blue roles were sniped. | ||
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On August 14 2010 01:50 bumatlarge wrote: And if my posts lack humor, blame the penalty game. FUCKHSHFURHSPQ. I will now not mention that ever again. Oh boy, do I have an epic post-game note for you guys being prepared right now. | ||
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I would actually appreciate it if anyone clarified what things are happening in this thread so I can understand the situation far better | ||
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Honestly have to say playing this game was quite- fresh experience, actually. I loved being an PR; my entire strategy consisted of doing nothing at all and get praised when inevitable town circle rolls over the scum And it worked!! | ||
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