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DT's should only consider PMing me if my role was returned as anything OTHER than simple red mafia. If it was returned simply red then there is no way to distinguish between legitimate DT's and potential mafia false claimers, i.e.
Mafia will know they framed me and as such can false claim DT, this simple fact means that it would be impossible at this stage for me to trust any DT claims to the extent that I could prove my innocence to them and that of the others in my good company.
If however, my role was returned as anything other than red mafia, then it would be very beneficial to PM me as I would be able to know if your being legitimate and be able to share the info neccesary to prove myself, however I leave that at your discretion. I suspect the mafia will have framed me and this is going to be a moot point, however in such a scenario it would help us to know who journeyed down my path and the Watcher will know who visited me.
The frames the thing wherein we'll catch the conscience of the King.....
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On August 09 2010 23:03 XeliN wrote:
Watcher, I am asking for a slight leap of faith, please get in contact with me as I've formed a town circle, at this point let me be frank if I am mafia the information I know puts the town in a very very difficult position, but thankfully people who have shared with me are already certain of my innocence.
PM me please, the information of who visited me last night is fairly essential and in all likelihood could enable us to catch the framer on this day.
I can guarantee that I can prove my innocence as well as the people who have currently claimed to me, but in order to do so I'd obviously need to verify you. Simplest way would be giving me the names of the people who visited me, I will know if you are lying, but that is risky at it potentially gives me alot of information that, if i were mafia, could fuck us. There is another way to do this, a simpler way that is less risky that I will explain in PM.
If you PM me and subsequently I have not lived up to what I claim (that I can prove my innocence as well prove the roles of people I'm in contact with) then you will have caught a mafia (me) at the expense of revealing your role.
This in itself is pro town, but anyway I am requesting you take a slight leap of faith, the info on who visited me last night is invaluable, I would ask the same of detectives but their roles are more essential and they would be risking more.
Reposting this... plz read it watcher...
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At this point I am urging anyone who hasn't roleclaimed to me already to do so, I'm only able to verify myself 100% to people who I can in turn verify, but if anyone is willing to trust at this point and claim to me it would be quite helpful.
I guess it might be obvious at this point that If I was lying in what i've been asserting then I would have been called out by now, and that hopefully is enough to persuade people of my innocence.
But anyway plz claim to me, especially the WATCHER.... who im starting to think is not even in this game which would be a great shame
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Whatever I come out to DT's doesn't verify me, If i come out as innocent I could be godfather and if i come out as red I could have been framed.
Nonetheless I can prove my own role not to be that of godfather and likewise not to be red, although in doing so I have to give out information that I need to be careful the mafia don't obtain.
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How long do we have left of today?
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editing posts is against the rules >.<
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Re quoting one last time
On August 09 2010 23:03 XeliN wrote:
Watcher, I am asking for a slight leap of faith, please get in contact with me as I've formed a town circle, at this point let me be frank if I am mafia the information I know puts the town in a very very difficult position, but thankfully people who have shared with me are already certain of my innocence.
PM me please, the information of who visited me last night is fairly essential and in all likelihood could enable us to catch the framer on this day.
I can guarantee that I can prove my innocence as well as the people who have currently claimed to me, but in order to do so I'd obviously need to verify you. Simplest way would be giving me the names of the people who visited me, I will know if you are lying, but that is risky at it potentially gives me alot of information that, if i were mafia, could fuck us. There is another way to do this, a simpler way that is less risky that I will explain in PM.
If you PM me and subsequently I have not lived up to what I claim (that I can prove my innocence as well prove the roles of people I'm in contact with) then you will have caught a mafia (me) at the expense of revealing your role.
This in itself is pro town, but anyway I am requesting you take a slight leap of faith, the info on who visited me last night is invaluable, I would ask the same of detectives but their roles are more essential and they would be risking more.
At this point it's looking like there is no watcher in the game, or he has already contacted me and I'm writing this to disillusion the mafia.
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I'm going to bed now, a load of things are going on behind the scenes and let me say before the day is through we will have a fairly concrete lynch candidate based on more than just speculation.
If you are a blue role and have as of yet not PM'd me please do so. read over my posts so far and deduce for yourself my alignment.
I won't go as far as to say I'm 100% confirmed based on public information so far so it will have to be down to your discretion ultimately, although I can confirm myself with absolute certainty to anyone who I can likewise know not to be mafia, and have alrdy done so to numerous people.
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Ok, there are still a select number of people who have not yet roleclaimed to me.
Let me be perfectly clear, I was visited last night by a slew of people, I claim publically to be 100% confirmed, without possible doubt whatsoever, by the trackers who visited me last night as well as others. If I am lying in this then I would undoubtedly be called out by now.
If your town, and have still not PM'd me your role now would be a most helpful time to do so, there are still a select number of people who have not, and amongst them i suspect there might be an important or possibly some important roles to us.
It's getting to the point where we can eliminate mafia simply by process of elimination or force them into a position of fake roleclaiming.
So to surmise. If your town and have not yet contacted me about your role. DO SO PLEASE, it would be invaluably helpful.
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Then the logical deduction Foolish would be I'm acting in such a way because I am telling the truth, it would explain how I am acting outside of my typical norm.
I cannot explain publicly why I am 100% confirmed, doing so would involve revealing more information than it would be wise to, but I would have been called out by now and most likely be the main lynch target if my claim of
Let me be perfectly clear, I was visited last night by a slew of people, I claim publically to be 100% confirmed, without possible doubt whatsoever, by the trackers who visited me last night as well as others
Was false. All it would take is one of the trackers to claim I am lying.
Let me spell it out once more.
Every Tracker (among others, but lets leave it at tracker) who visited me last night is certain of my innocence
We know all trackers were supposed to visit me last night so the possibility of none of them doing so is little to none.
If I was lying it would only take one of those trackers to publicly claim I am a liar and have me lynched//stop me gathering information. over 25 hours has gone by and no-one has done so and that ought be more telling than anything I can say.
I am reluctant to post any more publicly, withholding information where mafia can see it is such a wondrous thing, so this will likely be my last word publicly on the subject, altho im fairly impulsive so I guess mayb not.
And lastly, If you are town and have not yet claimed to me DO SO 
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I never said all trackers, i only said every tracker who visited me.
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Lynch target incoming shortly
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Pandain is to be lynched, he has claimed numerous different roles to people and attempted to glean information based only on that. Here is just his PM's with me
+ Show Spoiler + From: Pandain [ 992 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: Hello
Date: 8/10/10 07:14
Actually, I have propisition.
First off, I'm a ninja. Meaning I'm a third party. Thanks to SFA's however, I know a blue. SO I don't want to break a SFA and you turn out to be red. So if you are, tell me. I won't push you or w/e.
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Kk, I guess you'll know I cant trust you yet but I'm glad you realise I cam trusted. Although I guess if i wasn't to be it would have been posted by now.
Have you had any PM's with people yet and if so what have you learned//told? need to gather info, i think im going to be dead by tomorrow
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Well I suppose I trust you.............................................................................
Meesa townie! Not exciting I know
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I would like you to roleclaim to me, would you be so kind?
This is only his PM with me, he has claimed similar other roles to others, and we also KNOW his claim of ninja is a lie, and his being Ninja is the only plausible situation why he would claim numerous different roles to different people.
Lynch Pandain TY
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He has claimed Ninja, among other things, but we know his claim of Ninja to be a LIE.
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I ought to say this as there is not long left, if there are not enough people to lynch Pandain, before the night ends, then everyone who has voted Pandain switch your vote to Youngminii
Out of Bill and Young, Young is a more likely mafia candidate
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Something has developed. Needless to say we now need to switch our vote as Pandain is verifiable as town and can be done so tonight, his role will become clear by tomorrow.
Youngminii has come back into the limelight as the prime target for lynch, there are some others, but at this point he is very suspicious and would be the best target.
So if everyone who reads this could switch votes plz,
Vote Youngminii please (blame Pandain for this farcical turn of events  )
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On August 11 2010 08:45 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 08:43 Pandain wrote:
Also, when do we start considering double lynch?
Tomorrow, tonight would probably have been a good time but I doubt their is a chance of it going through at this stage, and I think tomorrow would be best.
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Pandain has officially claimed a role which we can easily verify in the night stage, lynching him now is not neccesary, if he is lying we will find out tomorrow and have a guaranteed lynch, and if he is telling the truth lynching him at this point would not be pro town.
Blame him for claiming numerous roles to numerous people... but he is pigeonholed now and is verifiable so if he is lying we have a guaranteed lynch tomorrow.
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OK......
We have another person in youngminii who has claimed a role that can be verified with ease tonight and have another person narrowed down to either guaranteed townie or mafia.
We cannot lynch him, ive been afk watching TV.
I assumed all of these roles would already have contacted me and avoided this situation, but sadly not.
So sorry to have to do this again but we cannot vote for Youngminii,
I've been going through a battle with people in my circle, the result is we lynch Pandain, against my better judgement.
He has claimed detective, he claims to have checked brownbear and have it returned MH (conveniant as BillMurray publically has alrdy said Browns alleged role) His whole play has been a host of lies, and frankly between the two of them he is by far the better candidate
Lynch Pandain, this is final, no more vicissitudes
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If you need more evidence I literally just recieved this from one of my contacts.
It's part of a PM that was sent, the Author is Pandain
Here's a PM chain I just had with him
Okay heres the secret.
I fail at a 1st grade reading level. Misread ninja # as 3 OTHER ninjas, but there are just 2 other ninjas.
However, then I'm going to get lynched. Rasta has already been like "Hey what if he's dt" and rasta's my friend too, so I spring off of that and tell Xelin I'm a dt who just fake claimed ninja.
However, I really am ninja. DONT TELL ANYONE THOUGH! ITS A SUPER SUPER SUPER SECRET!!!!!!!!!!!
LYNCH HIM FOR DEFINATE.
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