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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 06:15 GMT
#3094
you can only hold on to the noobie card so long man
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 06:16 GMT
#3098
ohh pandain this i do REALLY want to know

proct told you sub is DT

why did proct tell you? no way in hell you were confirmed so either you're lying or proct is a retard
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 06:22 GMT
#3106
[QUOTE]On July 29 2010 15:16 youngminii wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 02 2010 07:57 Bill Murray wrote:
1. tree.hugger
2. brownbear
3. youngminii
4. chaoser
5. divinek
6. rastaban
7. Amber[LighT]
8. pandain
9. ~OpZ~
10. d3_crescentia
11. Misder
12. Pyrrholuxia
13. Tricode
14. protactinium

Out of this list, there are 4 people that I am absolutely sure are town aligned. That leaves 10 people left. By using this double lynch today, there's a 1/5 chance that we hit mafia. It is crucial that we hit at least 1 mafia today because that will lower their KP to 1. If we don't hit any scum today, then there will be 10 people left tomorrow with 3 Mafia and no double lynches. Miss two more times and it's lights out for town. So while it's not GG if we miss today, it doesn't bode well for us at all if they're allowed to keep using their 2 KP.

There's a good chance Pandain is mafia and so he's my leading suspect. I propose that we lynch chaoser since he's pretty much next on my list. I know I was wrong about Infundibulum but we don't really have anyone better to lynch (unless you can come up with one), and chaoser was one of Zeks's leading suspects too. Aaaaand with that:

##Vote Pandain
##Vote chaoser
[/QUOTE]


hm i like you're list this is my modified one taking myself out of course(and the practically and absolutely confirmed greens) but you dont have to believe that, ill have to try to painfully read some of chaosers actual content posts

1. tree.hugger
2. brownbear
4. chaoser
8. pandain
9. ~OpZ~
11. Misder
12. Pyrrholuxia
14. protactinium

so yeah that's solid odds, im still really suspicious of misder. He still hasnt been saying shit, i might almost think he's a better candidate than chaoser, almost time to read his posts
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 06:25 GMT
#3110
okay yeah this was his last post TWO days ago

On July 26 2010 16:51 Misder wrote:
##vote Double Lynch
##vote SouthRawrea
##vote Pandain


I'm back. And I read through the entire thread. It confused the heck out of me... my first mafia game wasn't this complicated. >.<
Here's my train of thought: SouthRawrea has been lying, and fake claiming. Easy enough. And when he is asked to post PMs, he retypes it. I think that he doesn't know what PM posting looks like, so in order to cover up his made up PMs, he says he retypes it.
Pandain has been lying in the PMs. To me, this suggests that he is mafia. Even when he is PMing, he doesn't follow the plans that are given. I don't know anything about PMing in a mafia game, but it seems to be all a mind game. And it seems like Pandain is confusing as many people as possible.
I don't feel like BC is mafia. If he is, we can prove it by lynching zeks. This is pretty flawed, but I just have a feeling (I could be completely wrong, in which...)
I also think that we should consider lynching rastaban. rastaban's dt is fake; we cannot confirm whether he is lying or that his dt is lying. We lynch rastaban to get this info.



##vote Misder pressure vote gogogo

he has a whopping 23 posts most of which say nothing at all
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 06:27 GMT
#3114
yeah seriously pandain stop wasting time trying to defend yourself and help us find our second and future lynches if you really want to help the town

there is no well in fucking hell a townie isnt voting for you
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 06:31 GMT
#3119
On July 29 2010 15:26 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 15:16 Divinek wrote:
ohh pandain this i do REALLY want to know

proct told you sub is DT

why did proct tell you? no way in hell you were confirmed so either you're lying or proct is a retard

Firstly, I needed his vote off of Subversion. He was thinking of voting Subversion at the time, and it is no good to have a Detective lynched. In doing so, I also thought of a gambit: If Subversion was Detective and Pandain was "let into the circle", if Subversion died then Pandain was at fault. Town, early on, should always be willing to trade a Detective for a Mafia, especially in this format where having one dead Detective means making it that much easier to sort through counter-claims.

I am not mentally retarded, as you are half-way implying Divinek. Please do not call me so.



i wasnt half way implying it i was straight up saying it, and no trading them early is terrible

it is fine as the game progresses and we have more info to go off of, but early game dt checks are the only solid info town has.

cause if you throw your first dt to the sharks, you have to god damn well pray mafia doesnt hit the next one with their two kp a night
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 06:50 GMT
#3121
i see what you're saying and in a situation where there was 3kp a night it seems more reasonable to do it early, but to only have 1 dt after night 1 can get pretty painful(especially with suicide bomber as he can never go public). But i suppose this game shouldnt be the best example as our blues have been getting rollled
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 06:54 GMT
#3123
pandain also sent me two really random pm's which i find odd, but that's the way he's been acting all game though i suppose that comes with being 14. (they said something like he thought i was dt and he's sad bm is asleep cuz im lazy to copy paste)

also pandain when you read this again

stop trying to defend yourself and help us find someone else to lynch in the future + today, you're already going to be hung

the longer you try to defend yourself when you KNOW we have to kill you (i mean put yourself in our shoes, or put a reasonable player in our shoes at least), it does actually make you look worse because you arent being productive at all if you're red

and it doesnt help the town at all after you're dead, all we have is this pile of defense of pandain, the guy who dt checked red and we knew we had to kill

nothing to help us long term, ya dig?
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 06:59 GMT
#3125
On July 29 2010 15:54 rastaban wrote:
Uhg, just caught up, that was a horrible night. At least my read on Bumatlarge was correct.

I agree that Pandain is the way to go for our first vote, but I will hold off voting for him to see what defense he has. Really though I don't see how any argument would make it worth the risk of keeping a red alive, especially since we can drop their KP to 1 if we get one more.

Now who should we look at for the second lynch? So far Chaoser and Tree have both been put forth. I think I will go back through there posts and see if I can get a read on either one.


please consider misder also!

though i think both of your above are very good options as well
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 14:21 GMT
#3150
On July 29 2010 21:29 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 14:22 Divinek wrote:
d3 is not confirmed in any way unless i missed the part where he got dt checked

I am confirmed 100%. I got targeted Night 1 and was successfully protected by Siniquity. As you may recall, Vigis cannot shoot on Night 1, and mafia can't target themselves either, so this medic protect PM in my inbox makes me town. It's entirely possible that Foolishness got double-stacked and I'm faking it, but unfortunately Siniquity/Zeks are no longer around to back me up on this, as they were the only others that knew as far as I know.

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 16:01 Protactinium wrote:
On July 29 2010 15:50 Divinek wrote:
i see what you're saying and in a situation where there was 3kp a night it seems more reasonable to do it early, but to only have 1 dt after night 1 can get pretty painful(especially with suicide bomber as he can never go public). But i suppose this game shouldnt be the best example as our blues have been getting rollled

To be honest, when I was thinking about this through since it was a clutch situation in trying to keep Subversion from being lynched, I left the Suicide Bomber out of all my calculations. Still though, I've always been taught it's best to target Mafia early on, since that at least forces them to defend themselves / have their teammates help defend them, which is what brought SouthRawrea and BloodyC0bbler out in this game. With 2 KP Mafia is still deadly, since Medics are pretty ineffective.

At this point, I remember something: d3_crescentia, you said you were protected by a Medic night 1. However, Night 3 only one person (Subversion) died and nobody claimed a hit. I'm assuming a double stack. However, if you were hit and protected then you're as good as town confirmed, since no Vigilante tried to hit you (why would they night 1)? After that, as a focal town player you should have been forming circles. I'm not saying you haven't, but why haven't you been posting other than here and there? And if you had a circle, logically it should have included some people in it. Maybe I'm being completely played by PM Land, but it seems you've been too quiet for somebody of your "stature."

I don't trust anyone this game given the amount of BS lying that was flying around. Creating a townie circle is only a good idea when everyone is trusted - i.e. myself and Siniquity. Others have tried to PM me. Xelin claimed DT to me after Night 1; but since checked lists started to float around only last night I didn't have a strong enough reason to suspect him. Tree.hugger's been noticeably silent in PM land as well; he claimed Townie to me Night 1. I haven't given them shit for information.

In the meantime, Divinek PM'd me after BC's fake-claim asking me if I wanted to start a PM circle with him and BC. Since I know super secret awesome things I'll take him for his word and trust he's town, but I'll have to keep him in mind for the future.

##vote: Pandain
##vote: rastaban


yeah i just wanted to pm you to see your reaction. You gave me a pretty town, or thinking townie rather, like reaction lol so i was happy to see that.


Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 23:27 GMT
#3201
On July 30 2010 01:33 BrownBear wrote:
Jesus, divinek, let a man defend himself. You're just shouting him down and demanding he must die. That's pretty damn scummy to me.

##Vote Pandain
##Vote: Divinek


why would i let someone who fucking dt checked red defend themselves

it is an unproductive waste of towns time
you look scummy to me bro

i also already claimed vet so if you're voting for me without any evidence that im not a vet you're bad bro
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 29 2010 23:34 GMT
#3202
On July 30 2010 03:43 BrownBear wrote:
Divinek for sure should be looked at closely when Pandain flips miller.
I think rastaban is likely innocent.

SO, remember that day 2 plan I had where the vets claim? I think we should do that now. There's no reason not to at this point.



whyyy should i be looked at so closely. For pushing hard to kill someone that dt checked red? What more do you want us to do man, decide not to vote for people who dt check red? We have to lynch them as soon as we can anyways given the good odds we have of reducing mafia kp just from that kill alone
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 30 2010 14:20 GMT
#3231
On July 30 2010 10:21 BrownBear wrote:
I think now would be a good time to say "I told you so", Divinek?



okay next time someone dt checks red we just wont lynch them then if that makes you happy

you can totally push for a wagon on me if that makes you happy as well, ill even vote for myself if you ask me to.. oh wait we cant do that in this game but you get the idea
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 30 2010 14:22 GMT
#3232
On July 30 2010 10:16 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 08:27 Divinek wrote:
On July 30 2010 01:33 BrownBear wrote:
Jesus, divinek, let a man defend himself. You're just shouting him down and demanding he must die. That's pretty damn scummy to me.

##Vote Pandain
##Vote: Divinek


why would i let someone who fucking dt checked red defend themselves

it is an unproductive waste of towns time
you look scummy to me bro

i also already claimed vet so if you're voting for me without any evidence that im not a vet you're bad bro



I must have missed that, where did you claim?

Also, no. Under no circumstances should anyone be ignored if they want to defend themselves. Your narrow-mindedness is part of the reason town's doing as poorly as they are, and it's really getting on my nerves.


yeah we should have let BC defend himself for the full 48 hours so he could have swayed your vote off plus others rofl

narrow minded fuck you he checked red, you're getting on my nerves
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 30 2010 23:38 GMT
#3238
On July 31 2010 04:20 youngminii wrote:
Actually BB, going against a DT check is bad play no matter how you spin it.

<3 you though.


yeah pretty much. You can't be results oriented and go 'wellll he flipped miller' you have to go for the kill because if you dont there will always be doubt in people's mind and that will ALWAYS affect the game and they way they vote/act etc.

so do we even know who the other person who is going to hang is(from double lynch), and doesnt day end in half an hour. i wish i got off work earlier
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 31 2010 01:05 GMT
#3242
well the votes should speak for themselves
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 31 2010 01:23 GMT
#3247
updated hit list

those are the only people that dont have any sort of real evidence to prove that they're town, 50% chance we hit a mafia in theory if none of the other people are lying about their claims, though really d3 should probably be on this list

2. brownbear
4. chaoser
9. ~OpZ~
11. Misder
12. Pyrrholuxia
14. protactinium
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 31 2010 01:27 GMT
#3248
pretty damn well lylo tomorrow considering both of the lynches today missed
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 31 2010 02:58 GMT
#3252
i find it interesting comparing this with my list

5] tree.hugger (~OpZ~, amber[LighT], chaoser, BrownBear, Protactinium)

2. brownbear
4. chaoser
9. ~OpZ~
11. Misder
12. Pyrrholuxia
14. protactinium

4/5 baby

makes me wonder if misder wasnt a red saved by his buddies hmmmm, two of those meanies voted for me as well

then again there's only three mafia so if he was red things would get interesting quite fast
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 31 2010 03:09 GMT
#3256
On July 31 2010 12:01 youngminii wrote:
Red's probably just riding along letting town kill each other. Rastaban/chaoser gogogo.


yeah wtf chaoser abstained from the second lynch vote or his name is somehow invisible to me in that list bm posted

die die die
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
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