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On July 22 2010 10:41 Subversion wrote: Look, I've already softclaimed blue.
Which was obviously a mistake since I gave mafia information, I was told that was stupid via PM and I agree.
It is NOT useful to lynch someone who has a valuable town skill!
I guarantee you lynching me is not going to give you information, and is really going to set you back. Please fucking think about this now. I am NOT the best candidate. Lynching me is hugely risky, on account that I am telling the truth.
Things we know about me:
Claim blue Am noob - 1st mafia game essentially Vote based on one stupid remark, and a well defended day 1 vote
Things we know about DTA:
Claims not mafia, no claim of anything useful Highly skilled and experienced player Vote based on detailed post analysis and him playing out of character
You lynch me, and I'm mafia, then you "apparently" have youngminii too. Any mafia is good so thats okay, although I disagree about youngminii. I really don't feel he's been a major supporter of mine. You lynch me, and I'm innocent, you lose a blue player, and gain zero information.
You lynch DTA and he's mafia, then you have chaoser too. Since they did a little band together and vote for me trick, and chaoser seemed to jumkp on my bandwagon awfully fast. You also lynch a highly skilled and threatening player. You lynch him and he's innocent, you lose a vanilla townie who doesn't seem to be putting much effort into the game anyway, based on what people expect from him due to prior games.
I am NOT the best lynch candidate, and the evidence against me is dismal.
Oh you softclaimed blue, so we should instantly not lynch you? Bull. And anyone who says I did the same thing, I have never admitted anywhere that I am blue.
You admitting that you are blue just makes you an idiot and a target tonight if you are one, a really bad townie, or mafia.
"It is NOT useful to lynch someone who has a valuable town skill!"
lol. Hey guys. My skill is a useful skill toi have too.
How can you guarantee that it won't give us information when I've already given an example of one person that it points to if you are red? If you're green, more townie points for youngminii.
@things we know about you: Playing the noob card now eh? youngminii was a newb too, he rocked pretty hard in my game. so /ignore. It wasn't a good defense. lol. It was just an excuse that you consider a good defense. I'm not sure people didn't call out how BS that is. Except that a lot of the other things that have been happening in this thread are BS.
@things about me: Actually I claimed mafia on several occasions. Get your facts straight. "Highly skilled and experienced player" - where are you getting this from? lol. Don't talk about things you don't understand. "Vote based on..." what? I'm out of character, BUT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I'VE BEEN MAFIA FOR LIKE 3/4 PAST GAMES so don't even try to use this against me. Any comments about my character is completely wifom. If you know what that means.
And now you're trying to cut off any connection to youngminii? Bravo. You guys really aren't connected.
I've said previously that I'd rather lynch you than chaoser. Chaoser would rather live than die. It's an easy decision for him, and an obvious one for me.
"You also lynch a highly skilled and threatening player." lol. Hey guys, let's lynch anyone who MIGHT be a good player.
"You lynch him and he's innocent, you lose a vanilla townie who doesn't seem to be putting much effort into the game anyway, based on what people expect from him due to prior games." Why the double standard? Shouldn't they expect the same from you as from me?
"I am NOT the best lynch candidate, and the evidence against me is dismal." And the evidence against me?
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On July 22 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:##Unvote Subversion ##Vote Abstain.I'll be voting later. I'm going to be honest. I lied ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) . I never wanted to vote for Subversion. But then this guy is like "Trust me!" So I do. But now I don't want Subversion out of this game if I truly don't believe he is mafia. I still have my suspicions towards Chaoser, unfortunately I couldn't respond to his arguments because doing so would go against the PMer's wishes. But that being said, he has defended himself decently, even though there are a few holes. But at the same time, perhaps its just coincidence. DTA, I'm not sure either. I mean, sure he's been playing weird but that doesn't mean he's mafia. The main problem I have with him is that he's not helping the town that much either. This decision is definitely going to bite me in the blah, since if I vote wrong then I will almost certainly be seen as Subversion is now, the deciding vote. At the same time, it will be even worse consideiring I know it may be tied. + Show Spoiler +Ha, I really hope it won't be tied when I vote. My decision will be at the very end in all liklihood, considering I must watch Day9's king of the beta thingie. I will make my decision carefully.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
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On July 22 2010 10:58 Subversion wrote: DTA, if I'm honest, I don't like any of this voting.
If I had to bet money on it, I'd say not one of the 3 major candidates is mafia, including you.
But you're good at this game, and you may just be fooling me. If I'm truthful, I wish we could all change to another target. But that's not going to happen.
Since I KNOW I'm not mafia and am useful to town, and thats all I really can know 100%, I think you're a better choice.
I thought the post on you was a good one, although your defense has since led me to believe that you're probably town. The reference to your past character is not from my knowledge, this is my 1st game, but its from that post.
Bottom line is, no I don't think you're mafia. But I don't know that for sure, and thus I know you're a better lynch than me, since I'm a really bad person to lynch.
If you're blue, that is great reasoning. If you're red, that is great reasoning. If you're green, well, we should be lynching you anyway.
Pyrr's post about me? lol. I already addressed that. He hasn't responded with any problems about it, except that I didn't do it sooner, which can't be helped.
"Bottom line is, no I don't think you're mafia. But I don't know that for sure, and thus I know you're a better lynch than me, since I'm a really bad person to lynch."
lol.
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Opz, there's nothing to claim
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Hey Opz, I'm looking for the post where you address tree.hugger's post, but it's playing hard to get. Link me?
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Wait Opz, why do you want to kill Amber?
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 22 2010 11:13 chaoser wrote:THIS is WIFOM Sigh, I don't even know what to think anymore. At this point I feel like none of us are mafia ;_;. Since both DTA and Subversion are soft claiming blue, I don't mind if I get lynched. I'm only green btw.
We should just lynch me to prove how bad Pyrr is at this game.
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On July 22 2010 11:01 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 10:58 Subversion wrote: DTA, if I'm honest, I don't like any of this voting.
If I had to bet money on it, I'd say not one of the 3 major candidates is mafia, including you.
But you're good at this game, and you may just be fooling me. If I'm truthful, I wish we could all change to another target. But that's not going to happen.
Since I KNOW I'm not mafia and am useful to town, and thats all I really can know 100%, I think you're a better choice.
I thought the post on you was a good one, although your defense has since led me to believe that you're probably town. The reference to your past character is not from my knowledge, this is my 1st game, but its from that post.
Bottom line is, no I don't think you're mafia. But I don't know that for sure, and thus I know you're a better lynch than me, since I'm a really bad person to lynch. yes, WE SHOULD VOTE FUCKING AMBER, if any of you dudes would be man enough to switch. this is of course going to be hard to do cuz 3 of the votes are people trying to save their lives, but it'd only take all of them moving plus what 1 or 2 more? if you really do want to hit a red vote amber, but between the 3 right now i am so unsure
Sorry Amber. Divinek and Opz have the same icons XD
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On July 22 2010 11:19 ~OpZ~ wrote: *Addition* Not only that, but tree.hugger says many reputations lie on it. My argument is against tree.hugger, because his reasoning is weak, but he chose to defend you and not subversion. WHich is why I'm voting to lynch you (not to mention you're play this game is annoying). He said youngmini defended subversion so it gives us insight into how mini is aligned, BUT mini defended you too...so how can he argue that? He can't.
I'd be happy with Tree.Hugger's death too.
can we kill him then? =]
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@Princess Bride: But if he weren't immune, it would be wifom.
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Question: if I am town, who does that implicate?
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On July 22 2010 11:30 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 11:28 DarthThienAn wrote: Question: if I am town, who does that implicate? Subversion asked the same question. I don't get why we have to prove that we have more reds in our hands to vote for someone we think is red.
More than one person has said, what happens if all three of us is town?
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When I die, lynch Pyrr plz.
Vote double lynch
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On July 22 2010 11:58 Protactinium wrote: After careful consideration, I have to
##Vote DarthThienAn.
Your playstyle is too hard to read, and though you're posting in a more normal fashion at this point I believe you have polarized the town the most. While Subversion drew a lot of flak for the missed comment, in the end most of the impetuous people who jumped on that withdrew, but your case has thoroughly divided the town. At this point, I don't even know if any of you three are Mafia, and I am loathe to undertake a last-hour bandwagon. Between the madness you have brought us enough posts to look at, so in the case that you die we will be able to go back and find how this all started.
like I said, when I die and flip town, lynch Pyrr
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unvote ##Vote: chaoser
I still think Subversion is more likely to be mafia. But chaoser has more votes. Tying it up just for Pandain.
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chaoser, I don't mind dying. Prefer not to, but it's all good if I do.
People to look out for when I flip green: Pyrr. Subversion (still got it out for him). youngminii. tree.hugger who fed me the connection between Sub and youngminii. And if those two are guilty then check out Pandain and citi.zen too.
People who haven't been posting that I remember: d3 zeks Jayme Laxer Amber (maybe?)
I forget who else and can't be bothered to check right now.
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unvote ##Vote: Subversion
cya all.
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On July 22 2010 13:20 flamewheel wrote: Don't worry Mark I still rub u~
<3
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On July 22 2010 13:28 citi.zen wrote: Perhaps don't play "like chez" next time, eh? Not as easy (or fun) as it may seem!
Was all worth it. I learned a lot. And I think everyone should experience it at least once. Besides, Chezinu is a much better spammer than me .
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