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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 19 2010 20:00 GMT
#530
Analyze me! Analyze meeeee!
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 19 2010 23:01 GMT
#549
Guys if I die tonight, then I am mafia.

Death Post:+ Show Spoiler +
Godfather
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 19 2010 23:08 GMT
#558
On July 20 2010 08:05 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 08:01 DarthThienAn wrote:
Guys if I die tonight, then I am mafia.

Death Post:+ Show Spoiler +
Godfather

You might as well just roleclaim whatever blue role you have to the town. I mean, if the mafia don't kill you tonight they are either stupid or you are in fact mafia. If you aren't dead after night then you should be top priority for lynch.

Of course, you could just actually act normal and help us out to save you a bunch of trouble.


lol. Just doing my job ^^.

On another note, I think Hyberbola was Godfather, so he flipped green... I mean, BM didn't officially say that he was a townie in the night post. :D:D:D
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 19 2010 23:16 GMT
#564
On July 20 2010 08:12 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 08:08 DarthThienAn wrote:
On July 20 2010 08:05 Foolishness wrote:
On July 20 2010 08:01 DarthThienAn wrote:
Guys if I die tonight, then I am mafia.

Death Post:+ Show Spoiler +
Godfather

You might as well just roleclaim whatever blue role you have to the town. I mean, if the mafia don't kill you tonight they are either stupid or you are in fact mafia. If you aren't dead after night then you should be top priority for lynch.

Of course, you could just actually act normal and help us out to save you a bunch of trouble.


lol. Just doing my job ^^.

On another note, I think Hyberbola was Godfather, so he flipped green... I mean, BM didn't officially say that he was a townie in the night post. :D:D:D

I do appreciate you making it easy for all of us on who to vote for as soon as day starts.

Mafia have probably sent in their hits already. Just claim now. The earlier the better.


I'm a Mad Batter
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 19 2010 23:22 GMT
#565
Foolishness, are you so innocent yourself? You haven't really posted at all.

Unofficial Start of the Game:

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=10#196]Your first post after it:[url] which doesn't really say much.

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=19#363]2nd post:[/url] A ninja abstain vote to avoid modkill. Let's see if you change it later / actually contribute.

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=24#478]3rd post:[/url] There's the switch. You go to BC based on "bad vibes," claim busy IRL, and promise future activity.

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=28#547]Your next post:[/url] A summary of what happened during the voting. Implies youngminii, BrownBear, and bumatlarge might all be mafia together.

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=28#551]Next (two):[/url] Basically saying that we can't pull much from the voting patterns without more information than the vote talliers have given us.

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=28#554]Next:[/url] Bashing on me for... what, joking around a bit and still providing about as much content as you?

Gonna stop there as the other posts are pretty recent. So how much content have you provided? Not much. And all of it is within the last two pages. Sure you're busy with life and all, but maybe I'm busy with life too. Maybe we're all busy with life, except flamewheel. Sure, I might be spamming a bit here and there, but maybe I don't have much to say / don't have the time to write it all out.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 19 2010 23:27 GMT
#566
EBWOP - note to self: learn to preview.

Foolishness, are you so innocent yourself? You haven't really posted at all.

Unofficial Start of the Game:

Your first post after it: which doesn't really say much.

2nd post: A ninja abstain vote to avoid modkill. Let's see if you change it later / actually contribute.

3rd post: There's the switch. You go to BC based on "bad vibes," claim busy IRL, and promise future activity.

Your next post: A summary of what happened during the voting. Implies youngminii, BrownBear, and bumatlarge might all be mafia together.

Next (two): Basically saying that we can't pull much from the voting patterns without more information than the vote talliers have given us.

Next: Bashing on me for... what, joking around a bit and still providing about as much content as you?

Gonna stop there as the other posts are pretty recent. So how much content have you provided? Not much. And all of it is within the last two pages. Sure you're busy with life and all, but maybe I'm busy with life too. Maybe we're all busy with life, except flamewheel. Sure, I might be spamming a bit here and there, but maybe I don't have much to say / don't have the time to write it all out.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 19 2010 23:37 GMT
#570
On July 20 2010 08:30 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 08:22 DarthThienAn wrote:
Foolishness, are you so innocent yourself? You haven't really posted at all.

Unofficial Start of the Game:

Your first post after it:[url] which doesn't really say much.

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=19#363]2nd post:[/url] A ninja abstain vote to avoid modkill. Let's see if you change it later / actually contribute.

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=24#478]3rd post:[/url] There's the switch. You go to BC based on "bad vibes," claim busy IRL, and promise future activity.

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=28#547]Your next post:[/url] A summary of what happened during the voting. Implies youngminii, BrownBear, and bumatlarge might all be mafia together.

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=28#551]Next (two):[/url] Basically saying that we can't pull much from the voting patterns without more information than the vote talliers have given us.

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=28#554]Next:[/url] Bashing on me for... what, joking around a bit and still providing about as much content as you?

Gonna stop there as the other posts are pretty recent. So how much content have you provided? Not much. And all of it is within the last two pages. Sure you're busy with life and all, but maybe I'm busy with life too. Maybe we're all busy with life, except flamewheel. Sure, I might be spamming a bit here and there, but maybe I don't have much to say / don't have the time to write it all out.

This isn't about me. This is about you.

I gave reason for my actions. Where's your reasons on why you're acting "like Chezinu"? Most people are blind so let me spell it out for everyone. You're hiding something. It's clear that you're attitude is the result of the fact you know some information that you don't want everyone else to know. That means you're blue or red. I'm sure I'm not the only one to figure this out, and if you're blue I bet a mafia member has figured this out.

And if you don't have much to say/don't have the time to write it all out, go get yourself replaced.

By the way, shoving arguments against me to try to divert attention off of yourself is terrible. You should know me well enough I'm just going to keep pressuring you until you claim or until I get 75% of the town to vote for you.

If you want me off your back, all you got to do is point out how someone else is obviously mafia and you're not. I mean, all you had to do there was say "I'm not mafia, citizen is clearly mafia, look at his posts; clearly scum". And if you were somewhat serious about it I'd totally divert attention off of you since citizen is such an easy kill for the town.


I feel like. Why not? I've still said more (actual stuff) than half the people in this thread. Yeah. I do have information that no one else knows. I know my role. You have information that no one else knows too. Your role. What exactly about my behavior suggests that I am blue or red? Am I really hinting at anything anywhere? Or am I just posting for fun? And if you really think I am blue, then why are you trying to fish it out of me? Mafia will know whether or not I'm town or mafia. They won't know if I'm green or blue. So why are you trying to give them that certainty by forcing me to claim? Mafia hits can be changed last minute easily. Especially considering that BM appears to be away, he'll probably take hits that are a little after the deadline.

I don't need to get replaced. Because I'm still more active than... 30-50% of the people playing. And to me, I don't need to be the most active member of the town to play my best.

Maybe I don't have a read on anyone? And besides, since you should know me as well, you should know that I don't defend by dodging and pointing elsewhere, I defend by defending. If you're town, maybe you should look through my posts and try to figure out why you're bothering me in the first place. If you're mafia, continue so that the town can watch while you burn. If you're a stubborn townie, continue as well, and I'll continue defending myself.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 19 2010 23:43 GMT
#571
I feel like it*
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 00:35 GMT
#575
TL has a search function that we can use to do that Pandain :p
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 02:49 GMT
#592
On July 20 2010 10:30 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 08:45 Pandain wrote:
BumatLarge's post:Look! I can change the text! is far more long and detailed than BB's. Finally, his post seems more pro town than mafia(of course he could be lying. Dang this game is hard.) Compare this with BB's post, which as others have noted is very suscipious and fallible.


MUHAHAHAHA- Ahem...

*vigorous nodding*

I've never played in a game where the Godfather's role cant be disclosed and there are no clues (that I remember), so that seems like an issue to me, at least later on if he plays quiet and doesnt hesitate to throw a scummer under the bus every once in awhile. And I can't really pin my finger on whate he would pick as his mask, as a smart one could safely assume towny, or deviously take a DT role and waste town a few days. The only comfort I have is that they are sticking with one role, so we base our info on that later on when some DT checks come along and we can really do some soul searching

Darth you are weird. But some DT is gong to check you so BEWARE. Unless you are GF. Boy wouldnt that lead to fun times.


I was joking about that. It's very obvious that Hyperbola was just a green townie. And bumatlarge, would I make myself such a fabulous DT target if I wasn't guaranteed security? ^^

On July 20 2010 11:03 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
i've decided that DTA is trying to play like oczec but isn't as good at it


I was bored. Sup. I don't even know who that is, and I'm not trying to play like anyone.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 04:40 GMT
#612
On July 20 2010 13:14 Bill Murray wrote:
Foolishness is killed. it is now day. sorry guys.


That's what happens to people who talk against me.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 04:44 GMT
#615
On July 20 2010 13:41 tree.hugger wrote:
That's wonderful, Bill. I mean, that's terrible about Foolishness, but that's wonderful about you.


Actually it's pretty good news that Foolishness is dead. If you know what I mean.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 04:58 GMT
#620
Sweet, no one thinks I'm red.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 04:59 GMT
#622
##Vote: Divinek
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 05:16 GMT
#627
On July 20 2010 14:09 Divinek wrote:
i wish badly i was a dt so i could check you darth then vote for you anyways cuz id convince myself you're gf


I already told you, I am the Godfather
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 05:34 GMT
#637
On July 20 2010 14:30 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 14:25 BrownBear wrote:
Sweet, everyone thinks I'm red. Just a couple things:

Roffles - your reason for saying I should be a target is because I haven't helped town at all. If I start contributing, by your logic you will no longer be gunning for me, correct?

Actually, same question goes to everyone. My plan is to be more active today and contribute. If that's going to stop people from starting a bandwagon on me, that's all well and good. If everyone is dead set on lynching me, though, then 2 things: I'm not even going to bother, and you all seriously need to reevaluate your playstyles.


Unless everyone lynchinig you is the mob!

+ Show Spoiler +
Da da da


In that case,

unvote
##Vote: BrownBear
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 05:38 GMT
#644
On July 20 2010 14:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Okay, so someone survived a hit last night. Should the medic and victim claim to each other? Alternatively, should the veteran role claim? I know we've had vets role claim after being hit in the past, but it does give the mafia more info that could help them plan out further hits.

Oh, also I suppose the mafia might have really really wanted Foolishness dead and put two hits on him. Or only sent in one hit but I don't think any team would ever agree to that unless it was led by the dark triumvirate of oczec darth and chezinu. And even then darth already admitted he wants as much blood to spill as possible.


Yeah, but I had to make sure that Foolishness died. He was going after me too hard.

If a veteran got hit, they should just claim, "I got hit."
If a medic protected someone who got hit, the victim should just claim, "I got hit." Medic should PM that person and those two should establish a connection. The PMing should come before the public thread claiming.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 05:45 GMT
#646
On July 20 2010 14:35 d3_crescentia wrote:
Okay, so.

I took a hit last night. According to Bill, I was protected from a bunch of fat men in suits. I guess that means all of you scum need to hit the gym. There was also an Asian with a cell phone. (DARTHTHIENANANANANAN!?!?!?!?!?!)

Oh, and if you're wondering, the reason why I'm posting this so late is because Bill didn't send me a PM initially ~_~


You liar. I stacked both hits on Foolishness.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 05:52 GMT
#648
On July 20 2010 14:50 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 14:45 DarthThienAn wrote:
On July 20 2010 14:35 d3_crescentia wrote:
Okay, so.

I took a hit last night. According to Bill, I was protected from a bunch of fat men in suits. I guess that means all of you scum need to hit the gym. There was also an Asian with a cell phone. (DARTHTHIENANANANANAN!?!?!?!?!?!)

Oh, and if you're wondering, the reason why I'm posting this so late is because Bill didn't send me a PM initially ~_~


You liar. I stacked both hits on Foolishness.

##vote: DarthThienAn


Consistency is important Peter
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 20 2010 06:08 GMT
#658
On July 20 2010 15:03 BrownBear wrote:
d3, you should actually just say whether you are a vet or not. Easiest way to solve my confusion.


Are you kidding me? d3's smart, and hopefully won't let the mafia know what he is / isn't.

...
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