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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 25 2010 00:35 GMT
#618
On June 25 2010 06:46 Zyrre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 05:57 Ace wrote:
I've illustrated my case on L the past few pages. If you need it to be more clear let me know.


Reading through this it does sound convincing.

L would be an easy target for mafia to go after though. Only one person that needs to be implicated, and L has been posting quite a lot. Some of his mistakes are ones I would make myself.

BUT, since none of Ace's posts seem like mafia and Ace has been bashing L since the start, that seems highly unlikely.



Incorrect, some of Ace's posts seem scummy. Particularly the fact that he pushed hard for Team 2, when I think he should have known better. It's almost like he was surprised they were shitting up the thread.

However, I agree with him that L seems scummy. He's near the top of my list, but what really puts me off is Caller quitting. I really don't think Caller would have bailed on the game if he'd gotten a mafia role. It's strange, but this alone gives Team 6 some townie cred.

If we do lynch L, and he flips green, I propose we go after Ace. Why? Because it means one of two things: Ace is a mafia and has led us to lynch two townies, or, Ace is town, playing extremely poorly and has led us to lynch two townies. Ace is not a poor player. If his actions and analysis are giving poor results, then he needs to be questioned for it.

Teams I'm ok lynching: Team 4, Team 6, Team 9. However, if Team 4 flips red, then Zyrre needs to be held accountable for his above post.


If I was mafia what would I do. First, railroad the two spammers, easily done, they basically lynch themselves. Second, go after L, he's inflammatory, he makes occasionally poor arguments, and he'll probably turn everyone against himself anyways. Third hasn't happened yet, but mine would be to pick on whomever the most inactive/newbie team is, and try to convince everyone they are scum. Most newbie teams have a ton of scumtells whether they are mafia or not(See team 9).

So far Ace has two checkmarks., but of course if L flips red then Ace is likely green.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 25 2010 00:37 GMT
#619
On June 25 2010 09:21 Korynne wrote:
Wow this thread died... can we get some people to do analysis? Me and Radfield both did a couple already... but I'll do more later on.



That's what we get for removing BM and Chez

Funny that you enjoy smaller games because there are less people to analyze, and yet you've gone and created a 'small' game with a ton of people
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 25 2010 00:56 GMT
#622
On June 25 2010 09:55 YellowInk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 09:21 Korynne wrote:
Wow this thread died... can we get some people to do analysis? Me and Radfield both did a couple already... but I'll do more later on.

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 09:37 Radfield wrote:

That's what we get for removing BM and Chez

Funny that you enjoy smaller games because there are less people to analyze, and yet you've gone and created a 'small' game with a ton of people

For my part I'm awaiting daybreak. I'm not sure how much can be gained by talking at night unless there's a lot of sudden info to be digested. The Korynne instigated discussion was fine, I just figure talking about new suspicions could help mafia choose their kill to manipulate my intentions. I'd rather deny this of them.

I had used the night phases of XXVI to go fishing since 1) it was a noob game, 2) I was pardoner, 3) PMs were allowed, and 4) I was having a hard time getting certain people to talk. I'm not so sure night phase talk is as useful here - assuming people are sufficiently active during the day that we can come to reasonable conclusions.




I'm used to dying in the night, which means it's important to get my thoughts in while I can
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 25 2010 01:02 GMT
#623
On June 25 2010 09:55 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 09:35 Radfield wrote:
On June 25 2010 06:46 Zyrre wrote:
On June 25 2010 05:57 Ace wrote:
I've illustrated my case on L the past few pages. If you need it to be more clear let me know.


Reading through this it does sound convincing.

L would be an easy target for mafia to go after though. Only one person that needs to be implicated, and L has been posting quite a lot. Some of his mistakes are ones I would make myself.

BUT, since none of Ace's posts seem like mafia and Ace has been bashing L since the start, that seems highly unlikely.



Incorrect, some of Ace's posts seem scummy. Particularly the fact that he pushed hard for Team 2, when I think he should have known better. It's almost like he was surprised they were shitting up the thread.

However, I agree with him that L seems scummy. He's near the top of my list, but what really puts me off is Caller quitting. I really don't think Caller would have bailed on the game if he'd gotten a mafia role. It's strange, but this alone gives Team 6 some townie cred.

If we do lynch L, and he flips green, I propose we go after Ace. Why? Because it means one of two things: Ace is a mafia and has led us to lynch two townies, or, Ace is town, playing extremely poorly and has led us to lynch two townies. Ace is not a poor player. If his actions and analysis are giving poor results, then he needs to be questioned for it.

Teams I'm ok lynching: Team 4, Team 6, Team 9. However, if Team 4 flips red, then Zyrre needs to be held accountable for his above post.


If I was mafia what would I do. First, railroad the two spammers, easily done, they basically lynch themselves. Second, go after L, he's inflammatory, he makes occasionally poor arguments, and he'll probably turn everyone against himself anyways. Third hasn't happened yet, but mine would be to pick on whomever the most inactive/newbie team is, and try to convince everyone they are scum. Most newbie teams have a ton of scumtells whether they are mafia or not(See team 9).

So far Ace has two checkmarks., but of course if L flips red then Ace is likely green.


I wasn't surprised at all. I think you are making a big mistake about my play here: I don't care what a player's supposed normal behavior is. If you play scummy and do ridiculous things I will vote for you. There is no excuse such as "I always play bad when I'm town" and thats how I made my decision.

Of course if L flips green/blue you can do whatever you please.



Surely in the interest of hunting scum there should be more to it than that. Yes, if you're confident scum will not be found on Day One then voting off those players who are difficult to read and always seem scummy is a good choice. But I think players who play that way should get their own special category. Yes they always play scummy so they should get consideration for my day 1 vote, but mostly I should ignore them and concentrate on the other players. Using those players who always seem scummy/ridiculous as a fallback.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 25 2010 01:33 GMT
#628


Not at all. Players that always play scummy usually always end up getting killed. Remember the goal of the game is to find scum: In the absence of overwhelming evidence against another team the scummiest players get lynched.


Agreed. I guess what I'm trying to say is that going into this game, many of us knew that the BM/Chez team would probably look scummy on day 1(spam, accusations, etc). So knowing that, there's less of a reason for focusing on them or worrying about them. They might still be deserving of a vote, but aren't necessarily deserving of my scum searching time.


But don't think I ignored every other player in the game so far. Just because I don't say anything about other players doesn't mean I'm not paying attention. Better to solve 1 piece of the puzzle at a time.


Yeah I wasn't really commenting on your play, more just commenting on general strategy.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 25 2010 01:36 GMT
#629
On June 25 2010 10:21 flamewheel wrote:
I may be back slightly late; haircut mlah.


shucks, I was hoping to stay up for the Day Post, but I guess I'll just head to bed.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 25 2010 02:04 GMT
#633
Sorry Korynne.... should've found a more durable partner...
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 09:55:59
June 28 2010 09:49 GMT
#918
Well, I had Ace and DTA pegged as mafia, but I wonder if I could have pushed to lynch them on Day 2 if I was still in the game. Probably not. Had no clue about Yellowink.

Great game mafia, you guys rocked.

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