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On June 07 2010 10:33 LunarDestiny wrote:
LaxerCannon, when you say your day 1 voting is ahead of others, I think you are referring to the WTF, why so early day2 vote on TheGliBoys.
Again, I am not saying you guys are mafia. I am pointing out consistency in voting behavior. If we lynch DeuceGladlier and he turns mafia. Our next lead will be LaXerCannon, pyr0ma5ta, and CompX.
Because of the voting behavior in additional of the previous mentioned reason for DeuceGladlier being mafia. I will now cast my vote on lynching DeuceGladlier.
For one, having DeuceGladlier turn mafia is not a very good argument to make us (well this argument is for me >__>) suspects. I for one feel that both have reasons to be suspected but also feel that TheGilaBoy is the more suspicious of the two.
That being said, I highly doubt DeuceGladlier will turn out mafia: if he is indeed mafia, he should've came out to defend himself already. If he does indeed do so and do a suspicious job of it, I will of course switch my vote. But for now, TheGilaBoy will remain as my vote.
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I also disagree with a double lynch because I feel that it should be saved for two stronger suspects. However, I do admit that my opinions should be taken with a grain of salt as I do not participate in mafia games as often.
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On June 07 2010 10:50 LunarDestiny wrote:
I changed my opinion about TheGilaBoy a while ago, but I haven't state my reason. So I will do it now.
The picture on the TheGilaBoy is a dt. Of course that will make him an easy mafia target. I don't think it is fair just to say dt=assassin.
The suspicion of TheGilaBoy comes from the death of ElyAs:
1)The "hastily constructed barricades" reference to "Twilight Fortress" in TheGilaBoys' profile is irrelevant since "hastily constructed barricades" refers to other townies constructing their home.
for 1) Twilight Fortress clue is a MAP. The towns are constructing hastily built barricades thus providing a "map" for the mafia. Of course, I don't think this is a good clue either but I'm just pointing out how one may come to this connection.
for 2)It was never explicitly stated that the mafia chasing ElyAs was faster - just that he appeared before the front steps before ElyAs. I've provided a possible explanation in that stalkers can blink and his profile contains the picture of a stalker. Of course there are other explanations like defying physics etc.
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On June 07 2010 11:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
pyr0ma5ta, you say that people voting based on their sleep schedules and time zones. I disagree with that statement.
Most of the players here are from North America and their votings are spread out across the voting period. And it is such a coincidence that four players who voted late on one day, voted early when one of them is in danger of being the lynch target.
I wouldn't really consider myself a lynch target because the worst that I did was become inactive in day 1. In the end all I wanted to say in day 1 had already been said (through my sloppy analysis before day 1 ended). The only other reason to suspect me would be my quote "just keep swimming" and the fountain clue.
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On June 07 2010 11:15 LunarDestiny wrote:
LaXerCannon, so your reason for lynching TheGilaBoy is based on:
1)Thegilaboys has a reference of winning Twilight Fortress with Dark Templars.
Hastily built barricades refers to Twilight Fortress.
And ElyAs is killed in a town (the map Twilight Fortress.
This is too far fetch
2)Now you think it is TheGilaBoys, the stalker who blink to beat ElyAs to the courthouse. Then this reason just disprove reason #1 about winning Twilight Fortress with Dark Templar.
Also to point out that blink is a active move which requires cool off time (stalker can not out run a zealot) and blink doesn't move you too far.
I already displayed the fact that I believe this is a far fetched relation. Also, I never mentioned anything about Dark Templar just the twilight fortress part of it. For blinking distance, the masked figure remained close enough to keep an eye on ElyAs even during night time, I believe that blink should be able to cover that distance. Then again, arguing the distance of blink is really pointless.
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On June 07 2010 11:32 LunarDestiny wrote:
A masked figure followed him, and stealthily kept to the shadows, not letting ElyAs out of his sight. ElyAs moved quickly, breaking into a quick run, hoping to make it back home before he was overtaken. However, he was not to make it. As ElyAs passed by the town courthouse, he noticed that he had already been beaten--the masked figure was sitting on the steps. ElyAs gasped, but in an instant his life had been snuffed out, and the killer walked away with a bloodied knife.
So LaXer, you reasons for Lynching TheGilaBoys are:
Stalker: Mask Figure.
Stalker uses blink to beat EylAs to the court house.
I want to point out that ElyAs ran from the lynch location to the courthouse. We don't know the distance from the lynch location to the courthouse So further argues about it is useless.
Second, I want to point out that the killer use a knife for his crime. I do not think stalker has a knife and can use a knife to kill.
This is of course we're assuming that TheGilaBoys is strictly a Stalker and not just borrowing properties from the Stalker and DT. Otherwise yes your logic makes sense.
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Assuming my premise that flamewheel is using everything from TheGilaBoy's profile:
-"in an instant his life had been snuffed out...a bloodied knife"
A slash from a DT is pretty powerful and also the knife clue
-The blink clue
-Stalker can be taken literally if we see how the figure's following ElyAs
-ElyAs never saw the DT until his final moments, DT was cloaking? (again this is a weak clue)
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I am also waiting for Deucegladlier to step up and say something. If he doesn't, I'll maintain that he's innocent. If he's mafia he would step up in an attempt to defend himself.
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My reasoning is that if he doesn't defend himself he's probably green (he's bored of playing). It also depends on how he defends himself. (>__>)
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Well, looks like the voting's decided =\
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I'm going to off for the rest of today; I've got a vectors test and a financial securities test (lol) tomorrow :S and I've already procrastinated enough today on other things D=. I'll be sure to post my thoughts on the out come of Deuce (I'm absolutely convinced he's green).
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Personally I don't really care whether it was Deuce or MooCow that was lynched as I had a gut feeling that they were both green. However, I'm surprised that MooCow got last minute bandwagon'd. Of course, I doubt you guys remember being a newbie but his posts all seem to line-up well with me. People react differently in different situations, just because some other guy does something you wouldn't have done in a given situation doesn't mean he's suspicious. You should be weary of it,sure, but don't let it cloud your judgment.
That being said, I'm waiting for the next post to harvest more clues 
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Pyr0ma5ta
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However, he failed to notice that somebody was pursuing him as he made his way back home.
-Stalking clue again; in the many ways the mafia could confront his victim, the word choice is really bugging me. Thrice now have we had a victim being followed. It was the case with BloodyC0bbler and ElyAs and now pyr0ma5ta as well.
Before he could withdraw the gun though, something flew through the air, blinding pyr0ma5ta as it hit him in the face.
-Flash bomb? This sounds like a physical weapon so lasers are out.
As he clawed at the suffocating object, it released an electrical shock that brought pyr0ma5ta to his knees.
-Oh so it's a taser now?
The last thing pyr0ma5ta would hear was the sound of his killer's heavy breathing.
-The guy's fat or very unfit to be panting heavily while pyr0ma5ta showed no sign of being tired
AcrossFiveJuly's
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By the end of the night AcrossFiveJuly’s had no idea who stabbed him, but he was left dead all the same.
-not many clues left behind here!
-AcrossFiveJuly was unable to find the mafia
-he died without knowing who killed him
-he got stabbed
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Now that I look, It looks like everything in my post above has been said already...guess i'll start analyzing the profiles
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Suspects:
TheGilaboy - I don't think I should say anymore about him :S
Hugoboss21
+ Show Spoiler +I've been considering this connection since the very first day post. His profile includes the fact that he loves playing medic & SPY in TF2. Now I've only played TF2 for max 5 minutes at a friends house so I had to do some research (please correct me if there are any facts i'm ignorant to). Here are some points I found regarding the spy from team fortress 2:
-You can't use a weapon when you're cloaked. This would be able to connect to the three deaths (BloodyC0bbler, ElyAs, PyroMa5ta) or BEP for short. BEP didn't notice that they were being followed until the murder decided to kill. Especially in Pyr0ma5ta's case the mafia didn't stun before revealing himself. Instead he revealed himself and then stunned.
-Your body briefly glows as your team's color when fading in and out of invisibility as a spy and that will give you away if seen removing your cloak. This is probably how BEP noticed that they were being followed.
-The spy in team fortress has a masked like the mask figure in ElyAs' death.
-One of his weapons is an Electro Sapper which could be what he threw at Pyr0Ma5ta. Then again, you can't really get anything use it on an enemy character in the game.
I still don't think this is good enough to point a finger at him as I can't explain his weight or his ability to beat ElyAs in running despite his weight.
Misder
+ Show Spoiler +Nothing Happens in my life. The end.
-Kinda reminds me of AcrossFiveJuly's death
You can probably tell I got really lazy after the first too :S I'm going to go off to bed now. One final note: I like littlechava's survival of the fittest clue! I didn't catch that D=
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This is a significant choice we have on our hands.
Best Outcome
If onihunter flips red, it would make DTA that much closer to being a townie. We can start developing a town circle and proceed from there.
Bad Outcome
If onihunter flips green/blue, we have to make a choice:
-lynch DTA.
-trust DTA and lynch his source.
Worst Outcome
If we lynch DTA's source and he flips out green/blue, we can confirm that DTA is mafia. This would require TWO lynches that could go elsewhere.
That being said, I'm going to hold off on lynching for now to double check onihunter. I do agree with the decision for a double lynch however and will vote for that first.
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Misder
Post # 184
+ Show Spoiler + points out the irrelevance of the lightning clue in day 1
Post # 270
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-Connects the printer clue with Yellowink, Crate to speeding car, MooCow (green) with throwing knife ; all clues that can be examined with a quick skim of profiles.
-Announced he didn't finish reading the thread yet
Post # 649**
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-Excuse for inactivity : awards ceremony + SAT
-Justified voting for Brownbear because he did not trust DTA or YellowInk
-CLAIMS TO BE HIS FIRST TIME PLAYING as a way to justify not knowing what type of behavior leads to what and yet knew that the lightning clue is irrelevant
-connects Gilaboy to the gila monster and poisoned coffee
-connects AcrossFiveJuly (blue) to burning wings and burning ink and weights in the gym
-most are reposts
Post # 654
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Post # 677
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-Calls AcrossFiveJulys out for dodging accusations
-proposes an idea: dts should check the barricade clue
-reiterates that he's new to this game
-connects zek and Icysoul(blue) to clues
Post # 779*
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-Justifies his choice to lynch DeuceGladlier. Defends Thegilaboy and starts suspecting the people who voted for him
Post # 781
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-asks to see if Deucegladlier will reach the minimum requirements to survive; proposes to switch to Thegilaboy
Post #898*
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-switches to moocow
-proposes several scenarios to the current situation
-justifies not voting for Thegilaboy because MooCow and TyranoS_Nivek have the same profile.
Post #899
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-asks how to find a specific post
Post #911
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-labels TyranoS_NiveK as more suspicious but keeps vote on MooCow to "get rid of an ambiguous case" instead of getting rid of an inactive
Post #912
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-Continues above by saying Deuce doesn't have any clues pointing at him
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Post #1016
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"Crap. Im going to be really pissed off is deuce is actually mafia. That would have been my third and least likely outcome that I posted. All that analysis for nothing..."
Post #1138
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-questions the reliability of DTA's source
-considers that there are not enough clues pointing at 3 lions
Overall I disagree with a lot of things Misder has said over the course of this game. Namely, his justification for voting for MooCow (get rid of one so that we can tell them apart), and checking the barricade clue on TheGilaBoy when there are stronger connections. Most of his analysis were reposts and his lack of posts doesn't deliver enough substance to give a good read on him.
I would definitely say he's leaning on the mafia side. However, I can't link any solid clues to him and that makes me uneasy. With 1192 posts (this one SHOULD be 1193 but then again, it's been a while since I've refreshed the page), each person should be posting roughly 35-40 posts. Misder has 16. I hope he posts more in the future; I do understand though that there are real life obligations we have to take care of.
Overall: He's leaning on the mafia side for me, the only thing deterring me from voting for him is the lack of clues on him.
P.S. Speaking of real life obligations, my high school prom is coming up this Friday - I definitely will be away. I might post a bit on Saturday if I'm not dead tired but I've got an orchestral performance @8PM (on the day after prom  )and I'm not sure how late it'll go to.
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Lawl. Looks like like was on our side.
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