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Name claims I find most likely to be fake.
1: Yuan Shao: Bill Murray. I already explained this one.
2: Zhang Liao: johnnyspazz. Honestly I need to check the order of claims on this one, but if he didn't claim this early I'd question this. This guy is in all the games, but he's not really prominent IMO.
3: Pang Tong: Ohn. I know he was one of the last to claim, and Shu already has a strategist in Zhuge.
4: Huang Gai: BC. Personally, I like this guy, but all he did was lead a fire attack. Wu has way more interesting personalities than him to add to the game.
5: Xu Zhu: LunarDestiny. Maybe Caller really likes this guy. I dunno. But as far as interesting people go, he lacks it in spades.
6: Zhou Yu: Darth. It wouldn't be a list of people I mistrust if I didn't get Darth on there somehow. Zhou Yu probably isn't a lie, though.
So based solely on name claiming this is where I go. Of course this doesn't include Fishball who has no name and Trez who will be killed soon somehow.
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I also did a name claim analysis earlier, so let me post my point of view. This is also a bit old (p.55).
I take no offense for you to suspect my name claim because I would had done it myself if someone else name claim Xu Zhu since the guy is pretty much a bodyguard for Cao Cao...
On May 23 2010 06:22 LunarDestiny wrote:
Aside from Fishball and his refusal to cooperate:
Bill Murray - Yuan Shao
He said his ability is a poor general which isn't historically true. Yuan Shao is a little bit above average general.
BloodyCobbler - Huang Gai
Huang Gai plays a much smaller role than other character claimed. But the movie/battle "Battle of Red Cliff" is the most famous battle in ROTK and Huang Gai plays a significant role in it.
Trezequet23 - Cao Pi (copied from previous so this is more in depth)
Cao Cao's son is Cao Pi which Trezguet name claimed. Cao Pi was never part of another faction in the history of ROTK in both novel(fictional) and recorded history.
However, in the PS2/PSP game Warrior Orochi (Dynasty Warrior and Samurai Warrior fusion), Cao Pi worked for Orochi who is the main villain of the game (similar to Zhang Jiao in this Mafia game) and revolted against Orochi.
Since Warrior Orochi is a fairly recent game (released in 2007) and a very popular in the Dynasty Warrior franchise, it is likely that Caller also played the game.
Futhermore, Cao Pi automatically getting recruited into Wei is questionable. If I was Caller, I would pick the Sun Jian->Sun Ce->Sun Quan succeeding process since all three play significant role in history. Cao Pi didn't do much for Wei accept being the emperor.
It is also likely that Caller picked a couple of minor roles since he said he randomize the process.
Lastly, it is sad to say my character (Xu Zhu) acts mostly as the bodyguard for Cao Cao. His most significant achievement is his duel against Ma Chao when Cao Cao is attacking the Xi Liang which earned him the nickname "Crazy Tiger".
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So this is what I am going to do
##Kill Trezequet23
So the army owner should go for another suspect.
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Dun dun dun... the hammer is down.
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On May 26 2010 08:04 Scamp wrote:
Name claims I find most likely to be fake.
3: Pang Tong: Ohn. I know he was one of the last to claim, and Shu already has a strategist in Zhuge.
Since I think this is the only way you're going to believe me:
My ability is that I can watch one person per night and see who they visit.
1st night I watched L, he didn't visit anyone according to Caller. (Which I thought was strange since didn't he recruit Hesmyrr?)
2nd night I watched Abenson, he visited Fishball.
It seems like we have a lot of YT figured out
Some things I'd like to add:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote:
Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited? Abenson is green or lying about being recruited since he still decides to help the town with taking out the YT.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 09:26 Radfield wrote:
Just realized:
BC visited Jugan last night, and since Tricode got recruited as a YT, BC is absolutely not a YT. If Trezguet flips as the other leader, then BC is clean. BC visits Jugan during the night and doesn't offer an explanation as to why, when he is asked. His response after Radfield posts his visit to Jugan is: On May 25 2010 09:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Feel free to send abenson at me then, it will confirm that I am not actually a YT, or at least, not an informed one. Which at least makes him suspectable for visiting someone and dodging the question of "why?" BM also mentioned making a "plan" with Jugan but all his posts are BS so I don't think it holds much.
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You guys sure like to shit all over the thread when I'm gone.
Will reply after I'm done dinner.
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On May 26 2010 09:20 ohN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 08:04 Scamp wrote:
Name claims I find most likely to be fake.
3: Pang Tong: Ohn. I know he was one of the last to claim, and Shu already has a strategist in Zhuge. Since I think this is the only way you're going to believe me: My ability is that I can watch one person per night and see who they visit. 1st night I watched L, he didn't visit anyone according to Caller. (Which I thought was strange since didn't he recruit Hesmyrr?) 2nd night I watched Abenson, he visited Fishball. It seems like we have a lot of YT figured out Some things I'd like to add: + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote:
Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited? Abenson is green or lying about being recruited since he still decides to help the town with taking out the YT. On May 25 2010 09:26 Radfield wrote:
Just realized:
BC visited Jugan last night, and since Tricode got recruited as a YT, BC is absolutely not a YT. If Trezguet flips as the other leader, then BC is clean. BC visits Jugan during the night and doesn't offer an explanation as to why, when he is asked. His response after Radfield posts his visit to Jugan is: On May 25 2010 09:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Feel free to send abenson at me then, it will confirm that I am not actually a YT, or at least, not an informed one. Which at least makes him suspectable for visiting someone and dodging the question of "why?" BM also mentioned making a "plan" with Jugan but all his posts are BS so I don't think it holds much.
To clarify:
you watch someone and see who THEY visit, not who visits THEM, correct? So you are a tracker, yes?
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On May 26 2010 09:32 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 09:20 ohN wrote:On May 26 2010 08:04 Scamp wrote:
Name claims I find most likely to be fake.
3: Pang Tong: Ohn. I know he was one of the last to claim, and Shu already has a strategist in Zhuge. Since I think this is the only way you're going to believe me: My ability is that I can watch one person per night and see who they visit. 1st night I watched L, he didn't visit anyone according to Caller. (Which I thought was strange since didn't he recruit Hesmyrr?) 2nd night I watched Abenson, he visited Fishball. It seems like we have a lot of YT figured out Some things I'd like to add: + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote:
Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited? Abenson is green or lying about being recruited since he still decides to help the town with taking out the YT. On May 25 2010 09:26 Radfield wrote:
Just realized:
BC visited Jugan last night, and since Tricode got recruited as a YT, BC is absolutely not a YT. If Trezguet flips as the other leader, then BC is clean. BC visits Jugan during the night and doesn't offer an explanation as to why, when he is asked. His response after Radfield posts his visit to Jugan is: On May 25 2010 09:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Feel free to send abenson at me then, it will confirm that I am not actually a YT, or at least, not an informed one. Which at least makes him suspectable for visiting someone and dodging the question of "why?" BM also mentioned making a "plan" with Jugan but all his posts are BS so I don't think it holds much. To clarify: you watch someone and see who THEY visit, not who visits THEM, correct? So you are a tracker, yes?
Yes.
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On May 26 2010 09:39 ohN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 09:32 DarthThienAn wrote:On May 26 2010 09:20 ohN wrote:On May 26 2010 08:04 Scamp wrote:
Name claims I find most likely to be fake.
3: Pang Tong: Ohn. I know he was one of the last to claim, and Shu already has a strategist in Zhuge. Since I think this is the only way you're going to believe me: My ability is that I can watch one person per night and see who they visit. 1st night I watched L, he didn't visit anyone according to Caller. (Which I thought was strange since didn't he recruit Hesmyrr?) 2nd night I watched Abenson, he visited Fishball. It seems like we have a lot of YT figured out Some things I'd like to add: + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote:
Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited? Abenson is green or lying about being recruited since he still decides to help the town with taking out the YT. On May 25 2010 09:26 Radfield wrote:
Just realized:
BC visited Jugan last night, and since Tricode got recruited as a YT, BC is absolutely not a YT. If Trezguet flips as the other leader, then BC is clean. BC visits Jugan during the night and doesn't offer an explanation as to why, when he is asked. His response after Radfield posts his visit to Jugan is: On May 25 2010 09:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Feel free to send abenson at me then, it will confirm that I am not actually a YT, or at least, not an informed one. Which at least makes him suspectable for visiting someone and dodging the question of "why?" BM also mentioned making a "plan" with Jugan but all his posts are BS so I don't think it holds much. To clarify: you watch someone and see who THEY visit, not who visits THEM, correct? So you are a tracker, yes? Yes.
But... L visited Hesmyrr night 1. They both died from the Day 2 lynch. Soo...
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anyway, nothing that you said confirms you as a tracker -__-, since it's all been public knowledge. All your claiming does is enable us to direct your night actions as we can.
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YEAH GO KILL TREZEQUET23!
i got a worthless ability since wu is dead
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On May 26 2010 09:47 johnnyspazz wrote:
YEAH GO KILL TREZEQUET23!
i got a worthless ability since wu is dead
Aren't you Zhang Liao?
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On May 26 2010 08:24 LunarDestiny wrote:
So this is what I am going to do
##Kill Trezequet23
So the army owner should go for another suspect.
No, don't.
I will be using the armies on Trezequet23 as originally planned. You guys organize whatever Day, Night, Afternoon, Evening kills we've got on other targets.
I don't want any but this, but that, could of, should of after the event. Stick to the plan.
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Radfield
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On May 26 2010 09:45 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 09:39 ohN wrote:On May 26 2010 09:32 DarthThienAn wrote:On May 26 2010 09:20 ohN wrote:On May 26 2010 08:04 Scamp wrote:
Name claims I find most likely to be fake.
3: Pang Tong: Ohn. I know he was one of the last to claim, and Shu already has a strategist in Zhuge. Since I think this is the only way you're going to believe me: My ability is that I can watch one person per night and see who they visit. 1st night I watched L, he didn't visit anyone according to Caller. (Which I thought was strange since didn't he recruit Hesmyrr?) 2nd night I watched Abenson, he visited Fishball. It seems like we have a lot of YT figured out Some things I'd like to add: + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote:
Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited? Abenson is green or lying about being recruited since he still decides to help the town with taking out the YT. On May 25 2010 09:26 Radfield wrote:
Just realized:
BC visited Jugan last night, and since Tricode got recruited as a YT, BC is absolutely not a YT. If Trezguet flips as the other leader, then BC is clean. BC visits Jugan during the night and doesn't offer an explanation as to why, when he is asked. His response after Radfield posts his visit to Jugan is: On May 25 2010 09:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Feel free to send abenson at me then, it will confirm that I am not actually a YT, or at least, not an informed one. Which at least makes him suspectable for visiting someone and dodging the question of "why?" BM also mentioned making a "plan" with Jugan but all his posts are BS so I don't think it holds much. To clarify: you watch someone and see who THEY visit, not who visits THEM, correct? So you are a tracker, yes? Yes. But... L visited Hesmyrr night 1. They both died from the Day 2 lynch. Soo... ... anyway, nothing that you said confirms you as a tracker -__-, since it's all been public knowledge. All your claiming does is enable us to direct your night actions as we can.
Yep, that doesn't quite add up. L had to have visited Hesmyrr night one, unless L just bullshitted Hesmyrr and hadn't actually recruited him. Either Caller forgot to inform you of whom L visited, or you're lying, or you got somehow roleblocked, which sems unlikely, since Xelin blocked me.
Anyways, I can confirm that there is a tracker role in the game, as that was my role last night. In my books, Ohn is likely not a leader.
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On May 26 2010 09:55 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 09:45 DarthThienAn wrote:On May 26 2010 09:39 ohN wrote:On May 26 2010 09:32 DarthThienAn wrote:On May 26 2010 09:20 ohN wrote:On May 26 2010 08:04 Scamp wrote:
Name claims I find most likely to be fake.
3: Pang Tong: Ohn. I know he was one of the last to claim, and Shu already has a strategist in Zhuge. Since I think this is the only way you're going to believe me: My ability is that I can watch one person per night and see who they visit. 1st night I watched L, he didn't visit anyone according to Caller. (Which I thought was strange since didn't he recruit Hesmyrr?) 2nd night I watched Abenson, he visited Fishball. It seems like we have a lot of YT figured out Some things I'd like to add: + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote:
Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited? Abenson is green or lying about being recruited since he still decides to help the town with taking out the YT. On May 25 2010 09:26 Radfield wrote:
Just realized:
BC visited Jugan last night, and since Tricode got recruited as a YT, BC is absolutely not a YT. If Trezguet flips as the other leader, then BC is clean. BC visits Jugan during the night and doesn't offer an explanation as to why, when he is asked. His response after Radfield posts his visit to Jugan is: On May 25 2010 09:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Feel free to send abenson at me then, it will confirm that I am not actually a YT, or at least, not an informed one. Which at least makes him suspectable for visiting someone and dodging the question of "why?" BM also mentioned making a "plan" with Jugan but all his posts are BS so I don't think it holds much. To clarify: you watch someone and see who THEY visit, not who visits THEM, correct? So you are a tracker, yes? Yes. But... L visited Hesmyrr night 1. They both died from the Day 2 lynch. Soo... ... anyway, nothing that you said confirms you as a tracker -__-, since it's all been public knowledge. All your claiming does is enable us to direct your night actions as we can. Yep, that doesn't quite add up. L had to have visited Hesmyrr night one, unless L just bullshitted Hesmyrr and hadn't actually recruited him. Either Caller forgot to inform you of whom L visited, or you're lying, or you got somehow roleblocked, which sems unlikely, since Xelin blocked me. Anyways, I can confirm that there is a tracker role in the game, as that was my role last night. In my books, Ohn is likely not a leader.
L couldn't have BS'ed that, cuz Hesmyrr died too. So either Caller messed up, or ohn is lying. Not gonna rule out Caller messing up though ^^.
Either way, none of that says anything that can prove ohn's innocence, whether or not it's true.
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On May 26 2010 09:51 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 08:24 LunarDestiny wrote:
So this is what I am going to do
##Kill Trezequet23
So the army owner should go for another suspect. No, don't. I will be using the armies on Trezequet23 as originally planned. You guys organize whatever Day, Night, Afternoon, Evening kills we've got on other targets. I don't want any but this, but that, could of, should of after the event. Stick to the plan.
It might be too late.
On May 26 2010 09:50 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 09:47 johnnyspazz wrote:
YEAH GO KILL TREZEQUET23!
i got a worthless ability since wu is dead Aren't you Zhang Liao?
he claimed that. should he not be worthless?
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It is too late indeed since I also pmed Caller for letting him know that I wish to kill Trezequet23.
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Basically what BM has been trying to pull off in the last few pages is quite amusing.
If BM really wants to die, we can have either LunarDestiny or BrownBear to take him out. But BM dying as a YT, doesn't proves his credibility much. He can very well be sacrificing and drawing fire to himself.
Trezequet23 has a very high chance of being an original YT. Tricode also claims that Trezequet23 has the ability to recruit. Unless Tricode switched sides, we should make our decisions based on the information provided by him. If Trezequet23 turns out to not be a leader, then we will have other things to worry about.
Also, I don't understand how Abenson got recruited as Shu, and how BM labeled him as Bodyguard. The picture doesn't add up here.
First off, none of the factions excluding YT, started off with a bodyguard. LR died by himself, L died with Hesmyrr which he recruited, so I have a hard time imagining Liu Bei would start with a Bodyguard.
Secondly, Abenson's role is Taishi Ci, a YT killer. This role, by all means doesn't look like a bodyguard in any shape or form, and Taisi Ci doesn't belong to Shu in the Three Kingdoms.
With BM just pushing his side of the story forward and Abenson laying low the majority of the time, this draws my attention.
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On May 26 2010 10:05 LunarDestiny wrote:
It is too late indeed since I also pmed Caller for letting him know that I wish to kill Trezequet23.
You can still change it, like right now.
WTF is too late?
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hey guys, I'm happy we didn't fall for Bill Murray trying to save his team. Trez in obviously the YT leader, and Bill Murray obviously a recruit. Lunar, I wouldn't kill Scamp based off what Bill Murray says. Kiil someone who claimed the same name as someone else.
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If I were you, I would hit johnnyspazz.
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