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On May 22 2010 11:16 johnnyspazz wrote:
okaay sooo i don't have access to a computer for like a day and jesus christ the thread doubles??? can someone give me a heads up on what i should know?
Alright, one more post. Dammit, I'm addicted tot his game 
Here's what happened, roughly:
Tricode claims he rolechecked L, and saw that L has recruitment powers
A lot of people jump on this bandwagon
Hesmyrr then counters, with evidence. He can block anything from happening to one person at night, including rolechecks. He proves himself trustworthy.
The town gets very pissed at Tricode, because Tricode has now lied, making him very scummy.
Decisions get made. One is that I will handle today's daykill, so vote for me, and argue for who you want to kill.
The other decision (something we should have done the first day), is that everyone MUST post their name in the thread. They can post their role if they wish, but if they feel uncomfortable doing so, just a name will suffice. This is to root out the faction leaders, as they will have to lie about their name, and stand a chance of getting caught.
Them's the basics. Everything else is basically debate (you should read the entire thing, though, because this is a VERY basic overview and you'll miss out on a lot of stuff). So, to throw suspicion off yourself, do these things!
1. Read the entire thread
2. Post at least your name, and your role if you feel comfortable doing so (if you do not, that's totally cool and doesn't cast suspicion on you).
3. Do some analysis! Post who you think is likely to be a faction leader. Our goal is to kill another with the dayvote if at all possible.
4. If you agree with me handling the dayvote, vote for me in the vote thread. If you don't, vote for someone else, and state the reason why.
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On May 22 2010 03:49 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 03:35 Tricode wrote:
I have a bit of a confusion here would you all please clear it up for me?
1. there is this contradictory statement of this Lu Xun saying L and Myself are full of shit? Anyone find that odd? It's a stupid possibility, one of us is telling the truth and more evidence shows that L is indeed a faction leader.
2. What does the vig and medic have to do with anything about L's role? Let's say a vig did attack L and a medic did protected him. How does that not make L a faction leader especially if I'm the dt!
3. Who is this Lu Xun and how do you just go believing him over anyone else in the game? How do you know someone is not lying? For instance someone that L recruited last night?
Look evidence shows that L is a liar and a Faction Leader. You gain more information by killing him then me. You kill me you just lose a DT and then now you have to kill L who has more recruits to back him up.
You kill L and you either prove my innocence or I die like a fucking loser. This won't happen cause L is a faction leader.
So answer my questions please before you continue with who is this medic person and who is this VG? These two people have no possible way of knowing or checking L's role. 1. Unless Caller is fucking around with phrase "You will not be notified if someone is hit or checked, nor will your target", I can't see how both of us can be telling the truth. You claim to have DT checked L, but my protection nullifies all night actions. Thus I know you are lying. 2. My protection overrides all night actions- this makes sense favour-wise because Lu Xun was great tactician. It wouldn't make sense for me to only have NK block ability. 3. ~Opz~ got my roleclaim day 1. Thus I cannot be making this up due to recruitment. If you are genuine in your claim, obviously you would survive getting checked by Abenson then we have firm reason to lynch L. So what is the problem?
Got quite a bit to read I see. But let me read this in a way that would make sense to everyone. YOU OVERRIDE ALL NIGHT ACTIONS and DONT notify. But L KNOWS he was protected by a medic....Do what now?
-_-...AND L was contacted by the Vig?! This whole thing wild. Hes better target L again tonight huh? That's a lot of information sitting around.
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OK, LEAVING FOR REALZ THIS TIME BYE.
See you all in about 12 hours!
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johnnyspazz, mind giving us your character name (not role just name)
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I too will be leaving for tonight. I stick by my opinion Tricode or L lynch is terrible idea though since I already have all the night roles coordinated. With the mass nameclaim one suspicious person is bound to stick out.
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Hesmyrr, what ever you do please do not roleblock on Tricode or L since people will be doing investigation on them.
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On May 21 2010 16:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 13:27 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2010 13:13 L wrote:Except the fact whether I die or not you will follow or prove my innocents. But you won't prove anything because you're going to flip YT. YT doesn't give a shit if they sacrifice one of their chumps to secure a lynch because they're 2 people ahead, maybe more if they can do that. You forget that I know you're lying. Like, flat out, 100% certain. I also know that because you're lying, you're probably YT. Lets look at how the day started; you go "i have a leader" for some reason. You don't just flat out go "I checked L and he's a Leader". You try to finesse your way into office. Someone goes "ok" and you're like "YO GUY, 100% I KNOW". When it becomes obvious that no one's going to trust you straight up, you lie outright and target me. Or rather, you probably thought it wasn't a lie because of the vig hit. And you figured that you'd be cleared as a DT if you were right. But sadly if i hadn't been saved by a medic, I'd be dead, and you'd be happy just the same. So yeah, pretty obvious ruse. Nice try with the yellow lettering though. Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. Even if you did have a med and vig hit. Which I don't know why you would have 1 person decide to kill you and 1 medic decide to protect you out of no where. You are obviously lying and trying to save your Faction Leader skin. The biggest issue is I won't turn up what you claim because you are indeed not telling the truth. This is convincing me even more that you are possibly YT. L you're lie can only take you so far. You're going to die no matter what. You know my death will prove your guilt cause of my some what DT ability. With your death my innocence is proven and that is a guarantee of my abilities and your lies. I am letting you know THIS IS A GUARANTEE NOT A RISK! L IS A FACTION LEADER! IF YOU LET HIM MANIPULATE YOU THIS TIME HE WILL CONTINUE TO MANIPULATE YOU AND RECRUIT YOU!!! EVERYONE Know this, if L he does live, everyone else recruited by other faction leaders will know he is a faction leader if he continues to play. L will die and all he recruits will come down with him. Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN! ...Actually so far roles haven't been revealed on death. Nobody but me knew about my loss of abilities. (Killed night visitors, and a special requirement for me to be killed during the day.) So I dunno where your going with this, but I'm fine with killing L. Iaaan will probably die with him. Also...Don't DT's check alignment? Seems more like a role check role.... L's making fun because Tricode (is he new?) isn't aware dt's don't know their sanity? Keep in mind Tricode seems to of checked role, not alignment...L is simply a Faction Leader, not a Kingdom...so it's role not alignment.
Tricode, please reread this post.
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im a boss
uh i mean Zhang Liao
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On May 22 2010 11:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 16:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:On May 21 2010 13:27 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2010 13:13 L wrote:Except the fact whether I die or not you will follow or prove my innocents. But you won't prove anything because you're going to flip YT. YT doesn't give a shit if they sacrifice one of their chumps to secure a lynch because they're 2 people ahead, maybe more if they can do that. You forget that I know you're lying. Like, flat out, 100% certain. I also know that because you're lying, you're probably YT. Lets look at how the day started; you go "i have a leader" for some reason. You don't just flat out go "I checked L and he's a Leader". You try to finesse your way into office. Someone goes "ok" and you're like "YO GUY, 100% I KNOW". When it becomes obvious that no one's going to trust you straight up, you lie outright and target me. Or rather, you probably thought it wasn't a lie because of the vig hit. And you figured that you'd be cleared as a DT if you were right. But sadly if i hadn't been saved by a medic, I'd be dead, and you'd be happy just the same. So yeah, pretty obvious ruse. Nice try with the yellow lettering though. Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. Even if you did have a med and vig hit. Which I don't know why you would have 1 person decide to kill you and 1 medic decide to protect you out of no where. You are obviously lying and trying to save your Faction Leader skin. The biggest issue is I won't turn up what you claim because you are indeed not telling the truth. This is convincing me even more that you are possibly YT. L you're lie can only take you so far. You're going to die no matter what. You know my death will prove your guilt cause of my some what DT ability. With your death my innocence is proven and that is a guarantee of my abilities and your lies. I am letting you know THIS IS A GUARANTEE NOT A RISK! L IS A FACTION LEADER! IF YOU LET HIM MANIPULATE YOU THIS TIME HE WILL CONTINUE TO MANIPULATE YOU AND RECRUIT YOU!!! EVERYONE Know this, if L he does live, everyone else recruited by other faction leaders will know he is a faction leader if he continues to play. L will die and all he recruits will come down with him. Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN! ...Actually so far roles haven't been revealed on death. Nobody but me knew about my loss of abilities. (Killed night visitors, and a special requirement for me to be killed during the day.) So I dunno where your going with this, but I'm fine with killing L. Iaaan will probably die with him. Also...Don't DT's check alignment? Seems more like a role check role.... L's making fun because Tricode (is he new?) isn't aware dt's don't know their sanity? Keep in mind Tricode seems to of checked role, not alignment...L is simply a Faction Leader, not a Kingdom...so it's role not alignment. Tricode, please reread this post.
Just got back and read the thread.
What do you want me to look for? I reread it many times.
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how does escape recruitment ability work if the leaders can decide if you are notified or not if you are recruited? does caller pm you saying, "you are being recruited, counter action?"
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Updating the chart made by Radfield:
OK, people who haven't name claimed:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
10. BloodyCobbler (his absence from all of this is actually kinda confusing)
11. MyHeroNoob
24. Jugan
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On May 22 2010 11:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Anyway, I am Huang Gai
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Updating the chart made by Radfield:
OK, people who haven't name claimed:
6. Ohn
8. Iaaan
11. MyHeroNoob
24. Jugan
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On May 22 2010 11:46 johnnyspazz wrote:
how does escape recruitment ability work if the leaders can decide if you are notified or not if you are recruited? does caller pm you saying, "you are being recruited, counter action?"
Someone please help me answer this question for poor johnnyspazz.
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Everyone I implore you to vote for someone who will actually have the common sense of actually realizing L and I are the ones that should be killed.
Brownbear has decided not to lynch me, but he doesn't even consider L either for this next lynch!
He won't even consider if Hesmyrr is lying! There is no proof of my lying until L dies or I die. You gain so much by killing L, vote someone that will kill him!
Time will only be wasted by not killing him. If I am proven false which I wont, then it will be easy to kill me during the night or next lynch.
Do you want someone taking over your armies who doesn't have it in him to do the right thing and end this chaos? What do you have to lose by killing me or L? You only gain! When L is shown as a faction leader you gain more! If not then you kill me.
It's simple and solves solutions and ends the chaos!
Unless Brownbear decides to step up like he should, give your votes to someone who is willing to do the right thing and L and then Me!
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On May 22 2010 11:50 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 11:46 johnnyspazz wrote:
how does escape recruitment ability work if the leaders can decide if you are notified or not if you are recruited? does caller pm you saying, "you are being recruited, counter action?" Someone please help me answer this question for poor johnnyspazz.
haha you are so bitter i love it
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On May 22 2010 12:13 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 11:50 Fishball wrote:On May 22 2010 11:46 johnnyspazz wrote:
how does escape recruitment ability work if the leaders can decide if you are notified or not if you are recruited? does caller pm you saying, "you are being recruited, counter action?" Someone please help me answer this question for poor johnnyspazz. haha you are so bitter i love it
If you honestly can interpret that as bitter, then I'm going to worship you.
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Actually, I don't mind lynching L.
But I still want Tricode to explain to me how he got a rolecheck when he should have been blocked from it. Caller?
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On May 22 2010 12:42 DarthThienAn wrote:
Actually, I don't mind lynching L.
But I still want Tricode to explain to me how he got a rolecheck when he should have been blocked from it. Caller?
Well, either the block thing is a lie or Caller did indeed screw up and for some weird reason is not telling us.
I will put faith in caller not fucking up (though if there was a fuck up I don't know what action is suppose to be taken place)
Since we can't rely on Caller telling us at this moment. It is just showing someone is lying.
The best solution is to kill L. Kill L and you gain a lot of info about me and who was lying.
In this sense you really have nothing to lose. L shouldn't be that important to you nor should I.
It's just info that should be taken advantage of.
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