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nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 16 2010 06:52 GMT
#151
Sign up please
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 17 2010 18:46 GMT
#227
So lynch the inactive people to begin with is the strategy?
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 05:03 GMT
#334
On April 18 2010 13:47 love1another wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 11:10 Bill Murray wrote:
After that, we invert the list the following night. We move on to Fulgrim as the next assassin if meeple is killed. If Zona assassinates Meeple, then we can use Zona and other assassins to rolecheck when they are not going to be an assassin in the first night.


Assassin:
20. (DEAD POSSIBLY)meeple
21. Fulgrim
22. JadeFist
23. Roffles
24. krndandaman
25. Falcynn
26. nbtnbt5
27. IntoTheWow
28. Elemenope
29. love1another
30. AcrossFiveJulys
31. nAi.PrOtOsS
32. DarthThienAn
33. Radfield
34. TheLardyGooser
35. Osmoses
36. jpak
37. motbob
38. madnessman

Assassinated:
1. Zona
2. CynanMachae
3. tree.hugger
4. d3_crescentia
5. KF91
6. iNfuNdiBuLuM
7. RebirthOfLegend
8. BloodyC0bbler
9. Jugan
10. Scaramanga
11. Bill Murray
12. Fishball
13. RaGe
14. Foolishness
15. Scamp
16. Abenson
17. Ace
18. Caller
19. [NyC]HoBbes


I don't understand how this system works. And guys! I'm not an assassin


From what I understand (I might be wrong) we just go through the list eliminating people according to their order, and when somone is killed by the mafia during the night, the corresponding person on either the kill or get killed list is lynched. And if somone goes against the kill list then they are to be lynched.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 06:03 GMT
#339
Does anyone know how the roles are given out? If the roles are specifically selected by the narrator then it seems likely that more difficult roles such as mafia, and assassin would be given out a majority of mafia veteran players. I would guess that the percentage of mafia veterans that are mafia as opposed to newer players(there are 6 new players) would be significantly higher. Letting newer players have an easier roles allows them to learn the game, and not mess it up for others.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 08:50 GMT
#355
I disagree I think that members of the mafia will try to take a role in the strategy planning process, meaning they are the most active early on.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 21:32 GMT
#408
I thought Caller made a lot of sense, members of the mafia would want to post frequently early on so they are not lynched for being inactive but they also don't want to actually say much in their posts because the more they say the more chance of being proven scum.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 21:36 GMT
#412
On April 19 2010 06:33 Foolishness wrote:
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On April 19 2010 06:32 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
I thought Caller made a lot of sense, members of the mafia would want to post frequently early on so they are not lynched for being inactive but they also don't want to actually say much in their posts because the more they say the more chance of being proven scum.

Does anyone else besides me see the irony in this post?!?!?


I see it too much also you have to consider inexperienced players (such as myself) feel pressure to post early on so they don't get lynched for being inactive.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 21:45 GMT
#420
On April 19 2010 06:33 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 06:32 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
I thought Caller made a lot of sense, members of the mafia would want to post frequently early on so they are not lynched for being inactive but they also don't want to actually say much in their posts because the more they say the more chance of being proven scum.

Does anyone else besides me see the irony in this post?!?!?


I see it too much also you have to consider inexperienced players (such as myself) feel pressure to post early on so they don't get lynched for being inactive.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 21:59 GMT
#428
I made one post that could be considered "random" and then explained it moments later.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 22:29 GMT
#450
On April 19 2010 07:16 Caller wrote:
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On April 19 2010 07:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I actually thought Caller's first post was pretty good because it rerailed the town discussion away from BM's plan, which had been beat to death. He also identified the sort of non committal passerby posts that people need to watch for and remember. However, I'm not sure how he arrived at the conclusion that Ace's strong accusations are the signs of a pro-town player. The wifom part was incorrect, and the part about inexperienced players posting more is basically an obvious truthism; pointing out something like that has no bearing on his innocence or guilt and so garners no points from me.

and why Nai Protoss all of a sudden? he's just about as useful as all the other semi-inactives. Killing him doesn't really tell us much at all, i don't think...and at least he's posting now that we're talking about him in the thread.

To be honest, now that I read it again, your post wasn't as much of a WifoM as I had thought the first time.

The reason I suspect nai.protoss now is because he demonstrated that while he reads the posts, he doesn't read the posts. Not only that, but he came out of nowhere to do the very thing I said not to do and left without responding to my allegations. I can see the situation very clearly (this happened to me multiple times in the previous mafia as follows):

a) I make a retarded post. LMNOP and Shinbi-chan are like WTF CALLER UR A FUCKIN MORON
b) They tell me to stfu and Shinbi-chan posts a load of bullcrap to derail anybody from noticing my fishy as shit posts.
c) everything goes back to normal.

What's to think the same thing didn't happen here?


If you look at other threads you will see this is my first game. The two mafia type players you described before were the quite members that pretty much agreed with townies and offered no opinion themselves, and the experienced mafia members which appeared to be extremely pro-town.

Now why would an inexperienced member of the mafia do the exact thing that you just stated as showing mafia members. No reason what so ever. An inexperienced townie however that doesn't want to get lynched for being inactive, but also is to inexperienced to actually add anything to the conversation has nothing to lose from agreeing with the "experienced townie".
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 22:31 GMT
#452
I am trying to post as often as I can to explain why I am not mafia but I also need to study for midterms and can't refresh every 5 minutes :s
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 22:40 GMT
#454
I think that the mafia are laughing at us right now. I don't believe that Ace, Caller, or iNfuNdiBuLuM are mafia. I think that the mafia are just sitting back and letting us tear eachother's throats out.

I voted for you because I didn't want to miss the vote first off, and at the time I thought that you were scared of being lynched so you were just trying to take me out before you were killed. The more you post the more I want to change my vote. But until I can find somone better to vote for it remains on you.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 18 2010 23:59 GMT
#467
On April 19 2010 08:42 tree.hugger wrote:
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On April 19 2010 08:23 Abenson wrote:
Thank you Ace for simply stopping your relentless attacks
I also think it a good idea to wait and compile his posts.

Anyways, I think we should be focused on other issues,
Like whether we should implement the BM assassin plan

I'm against it, but I think it be best we talk over it.


Wait, what?

One: the BM assassin plan has been shown time and time again to be a terrible idea, based on a faulty premise (assassins are pro-town), that no assassin in their right mind would follow. In fact, I don't think it's been brought up for several pages.

So no, we should not be focused on this, because it's a non-issue.

Which leads me to ask: why on earth did you even bring it up? Because this:

"I'm against it, but I think it be best we talk over it."

Is hilariously unbelievable. There's no reason for you to simply raise the issue of the BM 'Plan' when it isn't on the table, if you aren't for it. But you know it's unpopular with some people, (read: everyone) and so to distance yourself from it, you purport to be not in favor. Seriously, what are you trying to pull?

***

Voted for nAi.PrOtOsS - Inactive with regards to contributing, but active with regards to defending himself.

I'll probably change my vote though, we'll see.


So lets hear who you think is mafia. I have no idea. I am not convinced it's Caller, so why would I argue he is? Defending myself is pro-town.


nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 19 2010 00:02 GMT
#469
Also with the amount of information we have currently which is absolutly nothing, the best thing we can do is to just pick the most inactive person and vote him off. If there are multiple inactive people then we should vote off the most experienced inactive people, because if they are mafia they are the least likely to make mistakes later on in the game.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 19 2010 18:14 GMT
#639
Vote changed to RebirthOfLegend because he has not made a post yet in this game, and I completly agree with voting off the least active person to begin with. Also I think a consensus may be met on this, as opposed to others.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 19 2010 18:42 GMT
#643
On April 20 2010 03:14 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Vote changed to RebirthOfLegend because he has not made a post yet in this game, and I completly agree with voting off the least active person to begin with. Also I think a consensus may be met on this, as opposed to others.


Inactive* I really hate not being able to edit lol

Also how is Rage red? It makes sense to vote off somone who is not active, because the less they talk the less chance we have to learn their allegiances.

Question: Do we have to vote somone off? or is it just better to not vote anyone off because the chances are we will lynch an innocent?
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 20 2010 03:09 GMT
#819
Maybe starting off the game by trolling and then insulting people later on is not the best way to make friends. Even you're tone in you're "apology" is extremely sarcastic and arrogant, maybe you just need to learn how to respect others.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 21 2010 04:37 GMT
#1033
On April 21 2010 13:30 Incognito wrote:
Since I am going to be absent for the next 1.5 days, I thought I'd just post my thoughts so hopefully you could get a general idea of where to look. Please don't ignore analyzing the guy underneath you though!

(Semi-)active suspicious people:

tree.hugger is against BM's assassin plan but wants to discuss it. Is this because he wants the town to go on the wrong track/get distracted from their real objectives? Tries to derail the thread by continuing to talk about assassins...is he an assassin?? Or just a mafioso using that as an excuse to find something to talk about? Posts other useless information, and lately posts that he agrees with foolishness and me that there is enough information to work off of. He also complains about the vets not helping, but shows no intention of actually helping.
RebirthOfLegenD: Promises reds and results. Fine, its only day 2. But he posted recently and all it was was a *cry* blues have died post. Not the greatest activity there. Planning to do something anytime soon? Responds to assassin discussion. I'm glad BC pointed out to us about how BM's plan produced results. Hopefully I won't over do it on this factor, but if we add up all the factors, it might give us something. Other than that, RoL has been pretty useless.
RaGe: Tries to tell us to random lynch on day 1. I get it now, its not that terrible but not that great. Overall, just tells us nothing in general. He then proceeds to get attacked and has produced nothing useful since. Only defense of himself. Which isn't really pro-town.
Scamp: Talks about assassins. Pops in to say useless stuff. Only one semi-decent post, which just parrots the attacks on TheLardyGooser. Debating whether I should have put him here or lower on the list, but I don't see any redeeming value here yet.
Abenson: Talks about assassins. And that's pretty much it. This should probably be just counted as inactivity, but whatever.
Caller: Rolechecked red, and has been making some pretty loose intuition-based attacks on ppl. No strong solid evidence here, so nothing of redeeming value. I guess the rolecheck does it for me. The only reason I could see for Ace lying like that was if he was mafia. I don't think he's that "L"ish to sabotage his own team, so he's probably telling the truth if town. Since its not exactly the best time to sac a mafia member (a mafia death would mean a KP drop), its highly unlikely that Ace really is mafia in this situation imo.
Falcynn: Useless chatterbox.
nai.Protoss: Posts when accused. Nothing more. Not too high profile but someone to look out for.
madnessman: just barely makes the cut...on the suspicious side. Not too useful, but then again, not too useless either.

Just purely inactive - and therefore should be prodded and abused so they can be useful:
Scaramanga
Fishball
Koryone: New player, but claims newb. Something to look out for if it gets excessive, otherwise this name is just here to make sure he doesn't get overlooked.
JadeFist: Rule breaking + auto-changing vote. Otherwise inactive
Roffles: He says some stuff, but nothing outstandingly pro-town or anti-town.
nbtnbt5
love1another
AcrossFiveJulys
motbob


Suspicious people that have some redeeming quality:
infundibulum: Cool. He defends Caller and Caller if appears red (if Ace isn't BSing us), this is a good sign. Although in response to KF, he actually has posted a few suspects (on the DT list if I recall?). Other than that, medic list + DT list shows at least some commitment to the town. Although it isn't all too pro-town.
BloodyC0bbler: Who is being useless. And is supposedly a good blue sniper? I'm not all too convinced though. He better show up to post or else. Not high on the list, but still someone to look out for. His first post seemed pretty pro-town, but other than that nothing else really pro-town.
Bill Murray: Bill is weird. From his assassin "plan" though, I'd probably look at his followers more closely than him. He's being kinda funky, like always, but he's been accusing more than usual. Usually he posts more about himself being green, no? Or maybe that was just a result of L attacking him like a relentless attack dog. Someone to look out for, but not that high on the list. Might warrant an RC though. Seriously its kinda hard to tell what he is purely from behavior (although he's never been red, right?)
meeple: I'm on the fence with him right now. If you want more info you can look at my archived accusation post about him.
Osmoses: Pretty much same as meeple

***
Note* by the end, I kinda got lazy. Like I said, I am gone tomorrow, so I need to get to bed early tonight and ran out of time. Either way, good luck in my absence. I know this list is long. If you can get people to talk, it shouldn't be too hard to narrow the list down to a manageable size. But then again, since Caller's checked red, I probably wasted my time here. Just use this as a guideline so you can actually try to do stuff and not just sit there. Just because Ace has found us a mafia doesn't mean we get to rest for a day. Keep up the posting, and cya on thursday!


I would just like to point out that since Caller is now proven to be mafia and he tried to take me out near the start when he was under risk of being lynched, I am clearly not mafia. Although I am also proving your point that I only post to defend myself and I am semi-inactive. But until I find time to sift through all these posts and come up with a good arguement for why somone is mafia I don't have anything to post.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 21 2010 04:38 GMT
#1034
Wow my bad I would edit and spoiler that... my bad.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 23 2010 05:53 GMT
#1327
Honestly when I signed up for this I didnt expect it to be so indepth and so much work. Also it seems when ever I post I make an idiot out of myself and further prove myself to be mafia. Since I am town and want to not get voted out so my team can win I have just sat back and not posted, except to defend myself so I hopefully don't get voted out by my teammates.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 23 2010 05:55 GMT
#1328
Also I havent said one untrue thing maybe it's suspicious from your point of view because your overanalyzing everything that I say.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 23 2010 06:10 GMT
#1335
On April 23 2010 15:01 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 14:53 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Honestly when I signed up for this I didnt expect it to be so indepth and so much work. Also it seems when ever I post I make an idiot out of myself and further prove myself to be mafia. Since I am town and want to not get voted out so my team can win I have just sat back and not posted, except to defend myself so I hopefully don't get voted out by my teammates.


Oh hello there. Let me just quote myself (and L by proxy?):

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 13:07 Incognito wrote:
Like L said previously in response to ~OpZ~'s long defense posts, defending yourself doesn't do that much good unless you have a solid case. Sadly, you don't. So instead of trying to defend yourself, start generating some content.


To late for generating content. If you have already convinced yourselves that I am mafia then no amount of content will change that. No matter what I say it will be overanalyzed and used as "evidence" as to why I am mafia. I will save you a vote and go inactive next day cycle, and get modkilled.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 25 2010 00:19 GMT
#1514
On April 25 2010 07:10 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2010 07:03 Fishball wrote:
Deep down inside, the voice says Ace is Mafia and the cake is a lie.



Ace has been right with his rolechecks twice now (at least from his perspective), and there are no Assassins left in the game, with RoL gone. Thus, I think it's pretty obvious that he's a detective, and pretty obvious that this is a scummy post.


It's nearly impossible that Ace is mafia. If ace was mafia and one of his "fake" rolechecks that showed someone to be mafia came up as anything other then mafia or miller be would be lynched immedietly. Since the mafia don't have any rolecheckers the chances of him hitting two millers among the sea of townies is slim to none.

Question: If we kill the godfather the game is over right?
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 27 2010 18:31 GMT
#1605
nbtnbt5

On April 18 2010 12:00 nbtnbt5 wrote:
So... how are we suppose to figure anything out on Day 1 when there's basically no evidence....? (in new at this)


States that he is new at this and is posting for no other reason then to not get modkilled. Waiting for a more experienced player to take the lead so that he can follow him.

On April 19 2010 03:54 nbtnbt5 wrote:
What do we have to lose to try the plan out? It's not like we really having anything to base our lynchings on atm, and it seems like a reliable method of making the mafia take action.


This post is in response to some criticism regarding BM's initial assassin plan. I know that many people didn't understand BM's plan and I am in that group as well. Most likely nbtnbt5 did not understand it either and is just agreeing with the more experienced player at this point. Also possible that he just made no effort at all to understand it, and is posting just to avoid a mod kill.

On April 19 2010 13:01 nbtnbt5 wrote:
(I know he isn't the only/first one to come up with this idea) I think this is actually the best solution out of all of the strategies/ideas mentioned. Sound logic is sound.

This was in response to Rage's post about just voting off the least active person. nbtnbt5 immediately swaps from BM's plan to Rage's plan without giving any logical argument as to why he believe it is better. "Sound logic is sound"

On April 22 2010 08:27 nbtnbt5 wrote:
tbh I think Ace is a legit detective... and even if he isn't a DT, but an assassin then wouldn't it benefit us (for now) to keep him alive?

Again agreeing with a more experienced player with absolutely no argument to back it up.
On April 25 2010 09:36 nbtnbt5 wrote:
Oh lol, 2 millers mistakened for Mafia....

Filler post again.

Final thoughts: Posting just enough to stay alive and avoid being mod killed and flying completely under the radar. Every single post he has made has had absolutely no content in it. He has literally posted the bare minimum required to remain in this game. He is either scum, a completely useless townie, either way he is barely reading this thread and just posting every day to avoid a mod kill. Clearly he is not a very big threat and should be dealt with near the end of the game.
(I know I am doing something very similar to this as well so no need to state how hypocritical it is)
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 28 2010 00:47 GMT
#1618
On April 28 2010 04:59 nbtnbt5 wrote:
I find it interesting that nai.protoss chose to analyze a really inactive poster.


Actually I was supposed to.... I was 16 on the randomly generated list and you were 13. 16 + 16 = 32. 32 - 19 = 13.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 30 2010 03:48 GMT
#1694
Now edit your's because you just quoted it
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 07:02:02
May 01 2010 07:01 GMT
#1737
WOW. Incog AND BM were Mafia? We got played.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
May 01 2010 13:20 GMT
#1758
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