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On April 19 2010 10:18 flamewheel91 wrote: First vote count up. For your convenience, remember that the vote count will be displayed in the Ah this is really helpful. Thanks flame! Btw, which mafia game was your first? | ||
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motbob [s]Ace[s] AcrossFiveJulys meeple Typo flame. Should be (4) not 3. AWWW I can't believe people want to lynch me! I'm so loveable! Like a goat! | ||
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Ahhh I remember that one! I convinced everyone not to lynch you because of the beijing man  | ||
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you can ask bill about that one LOL. Just realized in this version you need a clear majority to lynch. | ||
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On April 19 2010 10:38 flamewheel91 wrote: Reading through the last few pages, I'd also like you to consolidate your posts, They are consolidated. @ qatol: I don't normally use that feature, so I didn't recognize it at first. I got it after I saw it though. | ||
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Which I might add I NOTED in that post. GG. | ||
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On April 19 2010 11:02 Qatol wrote: And do you have an excuse for why the one after it couldn't have been consolidated? No, it was just an afterthought that I thought of. Next time I think of something like that I'll wait 30 minutes to post it (even though it may lose its relevancy). You got me, SIR! P.S. 3 != 5 or 6 On April 19 2010 11:02 flamewheel91 wrote: After I finish writing up any sort of long post, I always wait for a few minutes and refresh the thread, just in case something comes up that would invalidate/support/whatever a part of your post. Offensive GGing is considered BM  Well you have my respect and admiration! In the games I play, they encourage us to post two and three times in a row as opposed to editing. Some of us need to focus on making our points and like to smile and hit that "submit" button when they are done with that section of their argument. Perhaps we forget to "check again" before we post, sometimes we are too tired to, and maybe we might not want to. I have a lot of bad habits I'm afraid, and I won't be up to constantly scrutinizing the thread before I say something unfortunately :/ I like to offensive GG and build MANNER CC like Skyhigh I appreciate you guys running the mafia game, but I don't like some of the things you are doing. I've never had a problem with other mods and their game, and it feels like you guys are bashing on me and some other players which really takes the fun out of it. A huge part of this game is deception, politicking, and creating chaos. I'm not saying your words, views, ideas, arguments, or concept of how to run the game have no merit, just pointing out how it feels to me. Also, there are a bunch of things I dislike about the way this particular game is going, but I'm appreciating it as it is. I WILL DO MY BEST TO LIVE UP TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS, SIR! | ||
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On April 19 2010 12:00 Incognito wrote: Didn't expect to play a game right now, been busy over the past month, but was asked to sub in. Anyway, just started reading the thread. But I have thoughts from what I've seen so far. Expect a large post coming up within the next two hours. yay <3 incognito. I think the plan should be to lynch that KF91 guy. | ||
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reason: I don't like him, and he hates goats. | ||
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On April 19 2010 12:21 IntoTheWow wrote: Hard to take you seriously  My vote is as series as it gets, mate. | ||
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On April 19 2010 12:55 IntoTheWow wrote: Ok I went throught the list of players and searched this thread for posts by them. I no particular order, people who make no posts, or only one liners in it: KF91 (barely posted, always 1 or 2 lines) RebirthOfLegend Jugan (all 1 liners) Scaramanga (couple of 1 liners, pre-game) RaGe (only sign up post) [NyC]HoBbes (2 posts, with 1-3 lines) Fulgrim (1 post, 2 lines) JadeFist krndandaman nbtnbt5 (only 1 post asking how get info on day 1) Incognito (just subbed in, said he would make a big post) love1another (only 1 or 2 posts, and he already voted) jpak (only 1 post: "see you on day 1" when it was already day 1) motbob (only 2 posts, 1-2 lines) Ok, so I think picking one of these guys is the best course. If they have any previous server experienced, or were active in other parts of the forums but missed this, anything that's making them be quiet, etc. Incorrect. Go read again, sir. Frankly, I'm disappointed in your analysis. Additionally, a lot of the people you say "posts 1 liners" in fact offer insight and analysis that you either failed to read or are blatantly ignoring it in order to try and bolster your "point". I think the best course of action would be to lynch YOU as you are trying to get people to support your idea through false information and/or faulty logic. | ||
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On April 19 2010 13:36 IntoTheWow wrote: Cute, but this is the longest post you have made in all the thread. Trolling around, having a foul mouth, and writting stuff no one gets here and there doesn't contribute at all. If you are going to bash on my work, then you might as well show me where's it's bad or provide something better yourself. Incorrect. Although I welcome you to reference the point where my "foul mouth" came into play, I will surely apologize for it. However, you are also incorrect and I ask you to simply stop flaunting your ignorance and reference yourself a few pages back where, in a single post, I have offered more insight and contributed man than you have in just a single post. I have, in fact, provided something better and have also shown you why your critically lacking analysis is bad. In order for me to bash on your "work", you must have actually done something productive. Unfortunately, you have not, from what I have seen so far, fulfilled this requirement. Again, I respectfully request that you look over the thread once more, and not just in the last 10 posts of the thread so you may gain a better understanding of the direction the game is currently headed in. As I mentioned in an earlier post that you blatantly decided to ignore, it is extremely unlikely that someone will garner the votes necessary to be lynched with so little time remaining. Thus, our best course of action is to analyze those who have posted thus far, keep a tally of the votes at hand, and ride out the first night until we get a better feel for our bearings. I welcome you to start being product, and I await your apology. | ||
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On April 19 2010 13:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Fun note, we had already discussed this earlier in the thread via my own major post. So you failed on two counts. Reading is fun. I'm sure he understands that he made a mistake now, so let's leave it at that and open the discussion to something that will help steer us in the correct direction. On April 19 2010 13:07 [NyC]HoBbes wrote: Quick defense of inactivity- was at a friend's weekend house since Friday, only checking TL on a mobile phone. Am going to sleep now, will be active on the thread tomorrow starting around 4-5 PM As I stated earlier in the thread (not picking on you, just using this as an example), a person being less active than other people in the game at this stage is normal. It's only the first night, taking a tally of those who appear to be either lurking or inactive will help none. The mods will deal with those who are inactive (i.e. reminders/modkills). For those of you who don't know, people have things in real life to do: Go to school Socialize Take care of animals Set houses on fire Which means that they will be unable to devote as much time to the game as others will. Additionally, newer players will, understandably, want to get a feel for the game before putting themselves out there. While it is entirely possible that a person's seeming "inactivity" can be an indicator of a mafia member, please take great care in jumping to conclusions and making assumptions. I hope this serves as a reality call and a reminder for some players, IntoTheWow. | ||
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On April 19 2010 13:49 madnessman wrote: Hahaha Jugan, I'm going to have to butt in and say you are playing pretty damn aggressively. Clarify how your "let's lynch kf91 because he is annoying" constitutes as an insightful, cohesive plan? That is a good question. I come from a democratic nation where one may choose to vote for a candidate on whatever basis they choose. I pesonally voted to lynch KF91 because, as I stated, I (at the time of the post), did not like him. However, I never stated that it was an "insightful, cohesive plan". However, if you refer to that very post of mine that you quoted: On April 19 2010 13:43 Jugan wrote: As I mentioned in an earlier post that you blatantly decided to ignore, it is extremely unlikely that someone will garner the votes necessary to be lynched with so little time remaining. Thus, our best course of action is to analyze those who have posted thus far, keep a tally of the votes at hand, and ride out the first night until we get a better feel for our bearings. I do state that I, in fact, stated early the beginnings of a plan I feel will lead us in the correct direction. While I thank you for taking time to clarify a point of information, I strongly urge you to read what is DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOU before you point mislabel a statement made by someone, not necessarily myself, as it may get you into trouble and confuse others. | ||
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On April 19 2010 13:55 IntoTheWow wrote: I considered that option of course. If anything my call for inactives can make those people 'getting the feel' to post more, which is a good thing. No communication = town loses. Not like they are going to get lynched actually, at least that's what you said. That is an excellent idea. I support your call for people to come out and post more. I can attest firsthand that No communication = lose. However, trying to draw suspicions and pinpoint people as mafia is rash and shortsighted for what I stated early - You can call inactives to be active ALL YOU WANT, but if they are busy and don't happen to read it, nothing will happen (except that you will grow even more suspicious and get innocents lynched). | ||
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On April 19 2010 13:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also, mafia in the past have opted to play "inactive". Alot of people who are truely busy with things normally will post it ahead of time. If someone appears to say "sorry had x y and z, ill be doing x again now then sleeping, ill try to play tommorrow" then only appear to vote, are typically either useless townies, or mafia. Also good to keep tabs on. Real life does come up, but so does faked inactivity. I understand exactly what you are saying and where you are coming from. However, as I stated earlier, we should not worry about the people that appear to be inactive as of this moment - we are only on night 1. Additionally, I mentioned it is not only easy to keep tabs on people that are "faking" inactivity, but it is helpful as well. My reasoning about the inactive people is because IntoTheWow was attempting to accuse people based on 1) His interpretation on who was active. 2) How people posted. While I believe interpreting how people post goes extremely far in determining who may or may not be mafia, IntoTheWow, great guy that he is, made blatantly false statements about SEVERAL players and thus comes off as 1) Suspicious 2) Misguided 3) Forceful (as he tries so hard to garner support for his idea, he blatantly leaves out important details). On April 19 2010 14:02 IntoTheWow wrote: Well, that's why beside listing inactives I also wrote more or less what they posted. I opened the thread on "all" pages and CTRL+F every nickname on the player list. Yours came out to be mostly 1-2 liners, without actually saying nothing in most of them, hence why you were on the list. About your attitude, it was not me who pointed it out, but a mod, you can ask them for an apology. I like how you change your story here. You didn't word it: "Yours came out to be mostly 1-2 liners", You said: Jugan (all 1 liners) And said that the town should lynch somebody on the list. I would also like to note that you were blatantly incorrect about several other people on that list. You completely disregarded the fact that I gave several insightful posts that were IMPOSSIBLE to miss, as you would have to go through my name several times through them. Additionally, the mods did not tell me "Jugan, you have a dirty mouth." You, and you alone were the only person to claim that. You claim to have actually read discussions on this board. However, if you had done this, you would have came across the board discussion between me and a couple of the mods where we not only discussed things in general, but rectified all issues currently at hand. Your posting and change of story seems extremely suspicious, and you have now been put #1 on my suspect list. I also still await your apology. | ||
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On April 19 2010 14:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I was in no way trying to make it out to be "lets lynch all the inactives" more as a point in his inept defense. As well, he did have a point that he was making badly on the subject, I figured what I posted was it. However, I am so far impressed with your ability, good job sir! Forgive me for the mixup, the second part of my post was meant for IntoTheWow. You are doing a great job Cobbler! On April 19 2010 14:16 Incognito wrote: Jugan: When I say I await responses, I don't mean I'm going to sit here and wait till Osmoses replies. People (like you) can and should also comment. Right now, you seem spammy and happy to ignore responding to my post. I invite you to do so so we can keep this discussion actually moving in a coherent direction. Oh, I honestly thought you were waiting for Osmoses to answer your accusation. Forgive me, but I do not feel that I am "spamming". On a more serious note, I was taking time to ponder your post as, traditionally, I am not one to make accusations lightly. I'm sorry if my thinking process upset you. However, I do believe you have a good point - Osmoses does seem a little suspicious. What struck me as odd is, indeed, the discrepancies between the two posts that you highlighted. If we take that into account, his first post does indeed become suspicious too - Where he suggests saving the double lynch until the very end (as if to dissuade us from using a very powerful tool). I agree with most of your analysis about using the "newbie excuse" to promote their own clueless behavior, I also would like to point out that (in my experience) newbies do point out that they are, in fact, newbies and ask for a little leeway. However, I agree with you yet again that Osmoses is far past that point as his behavior seems not only suspicious but uses far more complex reasoning than "just a clueless newbie" would use. | ||
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The difference is that I was suspicious for having "aimless" discussions (yeah, I was trolling a little). You're suspicious for being a bad actor with lack of helpful posts that you yourself urged others to contribute. Additionally, you have failed to answer any questions or arguments regarding your statements. The discussion I put forth welcomed you to share your insight with us or at least the reasoning behind your ridiculous accusations. However, seeing that your contributions to this discussion has degenerated SO BAD that you can't even bring yourself to post 1-liners (and instead just quote a post and add no text), you yourself, by your own reasoning, stand out as the most suspicious of all of us and thus deserved to be lynched (again, by your own reasoning). | ||
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